Amazon - Seagate 3.5" 4TB NAS HDD US$128.99 (+US$9.86 Shipping) (~AU $190 Shipped)

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Just got the camel^3 email. Not sure if this is the best deal out there at the moment given our AUD.

But Ill put it out here and let the community decide.

Built and tested to provide industry-leading performance for 24x7 NAS applications
Includes NASWorks technology to support customized error recovery, advanced power management and vibration tolerance features
Designed for home servers or desktop NAS solutions, small-business file sharing, backup server applications
Available in 2TB, 3TB and 4TB capacities
Always on, 24x7 - 1M hours MTBF

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  eagleanthony on 18/07/2015 - 22:51

  I've got it coming up for $141.50USD total… ( a tad cheaper)

  Items: $131.58
  Shipping & handling: $9.92

  Total before tax: $141.50

  Some reviews here:-
  http://www.overclock.net/products/seagate-barracuda-xt-4tb-s…

  Pros: Quiet, low power
  Cons: Not fastest out there, poor warranty, not reliable

  Pros: Speedy, 4TB capacity, low power consumption, low temperature, low noise, lower price.
  Cons: Low spin speed @ 5900RPM, short 2 year warrranty.

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    toxicdav3 on 19/07/2015 - 04:20

    Your looking at the desktop drive which is cheaper locally. This is the NAS one with 3 years warranty (it used to be 5 years) which is $225 locally. But basically the same drive with different firmware.

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  Gnostikos on 18/07/2015 - 23:02

  After shipping and conversion you're well north of $190.

  Locally you can buy 4TB internals for $185 and $189 (PCCG as well).

  I predict someone may chime in with "But wait it's NAS-certified for 24x7 operation; enterprise-grade, head-parking, APM algorithm, buzzwords, blah, blah, blah, gagging on marketing jargon…" but that someone would be well-advised to discard their experiences of owning maybe 4 hard drives in the last 5 years and listen to people who actually go through hard drives like slices of bread.

  Just buy 'em as cheap as possible and make backups. RAID is not redundancy. Obvious is obvious.

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    Click_It on 18/07/2015 - 23:28

    +1

    Yeah, not really a deal at this price given the local price points. Importing HDD's gets difficult once the dollar sits below $0.80, has to be a mother of deals to make it worthwhile sadly.

    TBH I'm surprised 4TB drives haven't dropped further by now (talking USD not our pummeled AUD) - a lot of us (myself included) still need 4TB in their NAS / RAID arrays so I guess the manufacturers know this too.

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      Gnostikos on 19/07/2015 - 01:16

      +1

      4TB pricing has remained inexplicably static for the past 2 and a half years. It's just ridiculous. I bought some Seagate 4TBs for literally a dollar or two less than the one's I linked to at MSY about 3 years ago (and these were on par with US prices at the time).

      Then again, the 2011 Thailand floods FUBAR'd everything in the HDD industry, with the 3 big manufacturers all playing this ridiculous poverty act and crying wolf about how long it'll take for production to return to normal; I think they really milked that tragedy for all it was worth and inflated profits grossly along with dramatically cutting costs (I think QA has gone to sh*t in those industrial parks; I've had more bad HDDS in the last 3-4 years than I think in the preceding 10 combined, even WDs/Hitachis).

      Before 2011, the price per gigabyte graphs were plummeting downward at an exponential pace and then afterwards, even in 2015, they've just sort of plateaued and don't seem to have any rhyme or reason anymore. Despite the technology advancing steadily and economies of scale making it easy to pump them out by the millions, it seems like they just don't want to go below a certain cost per gigabyte (usually 0.3c per GB).

      SSDs certainly haven't threatened multi-terabyte storage mediums in the slightest yet and drives are cheaper to produce if anything now, so why we're still paying antiquated prices for effectively yesteryear technology is beyond me (or even degraded technology possibly).

      Makes me want to buy myself an LTO drive for home use and just keep oodles of data on cheap tapes (~$30 for 6TB). Heck, LTO6 is even faster than a majority of HDDs now.

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        Click_It on 19/07/2015 - 11:10

        I agree with all said there.

        This strategy is netting them massive profits now but I can't help but wonder if it's shooting themselves in the foot in the longterm.

        I never kept up to date with tape backup, I'm guessing the tape reader unit is the expensive part? They sure are fast for their technology.

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    Moi on 19/07/2015 - 02:08

    +2

    Just buy 'em as cheap as possible and make backups. RAID is not redundancy. Obvious is obvious.

    LOL…what exactly does the R in RAID stand for then?

    RAID is not backup, but it sure is redundancy (assuming the right level is used)!

    Obviously…

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      Click_It on 19/07/2015 - 11:15

      I backup my nas (raid6) with another hidden nas (raid6) and have offsite backup for critical data. It could always be better but it's pretty good for a home setup.

      Those slow shingled drives might change the landscape for home backups in the future if they can outpace regular capacities like they kinda are currently (ie cheaper than my current solution).

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  ChillBro on 18/07/2015 - 23:30

  I'm still hoping ow will honor the $150 5tb hard drives.

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    ratsackgamer on 19/07/2015 - 09:20

    I called OW on Friday in regards to mine. They're waiting for stock supposedly and should receive this at the end of next week so they can be sent out.
    Hopefully this is true!

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    t25 on 19/07/2015 - 13:14

    abit late now to the officeworks party, but what kind of drives are in those backup plus units?

    if i had known, i would have bought a couple to strip out of their case and into my NAS

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      ChillBro on 19/07/2015 - 13:15

      +1

      I've no idea, mate. Don't think anyone has even received them yet (might be never!).

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  WorkAround on 18/07/2015 - 23:46

  4TB from MSY for $210 until the end of Sunday… Just a bit of food for thought if you're someone who doesn't have a 28 Degrees Mastercard :P.

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  Obake on 19/07/2015 - 17:33

  +1

  For hard drives pay a little extra and get them local. I ordered 3 hard drives (possibly these same ones) from Amazon a few months ago and never again!

  They shipped them by taking the hard drives out of their protective boxes and threw them in a larger box only with just their static bags as protection. When I got them the static bags were ripped and I could tell by the way the corners were torn that the box had been thrown around during shipping and they had been banging into each other, not Amazon's fault, but they should have posted the drives in their proper boxes, not taking them out!

  Like these boxes:
  http://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Neweg…

  not like this:
  https://consumermediallc.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/newegg.…
  not my photo, but image 3 hard drive in their static bags in a box this size. I didn't get any paper material either, I got maybe 2 air cushion bag things only.

  Needless to say my NAS reported errors on the drives and I had to send them back, at my cost to get a refund.

  The fun didn't end there, when I sent them back I only got a refund for 1 drive. I ask them why through their support chat and they claimed I only sent 1 drive back! And they charged me restocking fees, even though they were at fault.

  They have yet to give me my full refund or the postage costs (they offer part of the shipping cost for return items).

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    Gnostikos on 19/07/2015 - 21:59

    Every online vendor does this. At least those dealing directly with consumers; OEMs/OEM resellers dealing with enterprise customers usually know better though.

    Shopping Express also sent me an 8TB Seagate Archive internal in just the static bag, in a small A4 cardboard box. Luckily there were no other contents and the box was in good condition; not having to fly across the Pacific helps too.

    I agree though, where possible physically buy your hard drives via in-store pickup only and make sure to inspect the package/contents as soon as you get it.

    I have in the past wreaked havoc on bare HDDs by doing things like merely tipping them over on the desk when they were lying vertically. They just can't take the rough and tumble they're subjected to in mass mail sorting facilities and by asshole couriers. I'm paranoid about reallocated sectors so I monitor SMART attributes like a hawk and I've directly correlated an increase in sector reallocation after some moderate shock/impact at least a dozen times in the past.

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      Obake on 20/07/2015 - 11:44

      I actually ended up getting my drives from shopping express. They were having a sale and free postage (I can't pass a good sale). Worked out to be about AU$160/drive total.

      Luckily they came properly individually boxed. My NAS didn't detect any errors either, but I do a full check every week.

      I've never seen a drive posted just in their static bags till my amazon order, and I've ordered drives from them before. Maybe they just leave them in their boxes for single drives, but take them out for multiple drives?