PS4 vs XBOne - from an OzBargainer's perspective

NiteMice on 07/10/2015 - 07:37
Last edited 08/10/2015 - 14:39

Hey peeps,
I don't want to start up the same old debate/religious war.

I'm interested to know which console is better from a bargain hunting perspective. Not just which console is cheaper to buy upfront, but which is cheaper in the long run, buying games in store and online.
E.g. which one has more sales, has consistently lower prices or drops their prices lower for specials? Which online membership is better value for money? Which can you always find bargain bin items for?

A bit of context: I already have a gaming PC and a 3DS, however I really want to play Lego Dimensions, which isn't coming out on either of those, so I need to choose a console. I'm totally uninvested in either camp. I don't have a 360 or PS3 (although I do have a DS3 I use on my PC)

Thanks!

Poll Options

  • 143
    PS4
  • 63
    XBOne
Gaming

Comments

  • Fappo on 07/10/2015 - 08:02
    +5

    I've noticed a couple of sales which had cheaper Xbone games than PS4. I guess because the Xbone isn't selling as well you'll possibly be more likely to get some occasionally better buys than with PS4. The flip side of that though is that perhaps in the future the PS4 will have better deals due to greater market penetration, and the second hand market will be larger too.

    I would (and did) go the PS4 though — mainly due to the superior hardware.

      • [Deactivated] on 08/10/2015 - 13:46
        +3

        Fanboy

        • pointless martyr on 08/10/2015 - 14:06

          Aint nobody got time for fencesitters

        • [Deactivated] on 08/10/2015 - 16:44

          @pointless comment: or 900p's when you can get 180 more and not have to have an 80's VCR stinking up the joint.

        • pointless martyr on 08/10/2015 - 17:39

          @Where's_That_Cake: dont care about techno babble…halo , gears of war and forza 6 look freakin sweet on my 52" tv

        • [Deactivated] on 08/10/2015 - 17:48

          @pointless comment: Aaaahhh on a little screen like that you probably can't even see half of the jaggies.

        • pointless martyr on 08/10/2015 - 18:20

          @Where's_That_Cake: yeh maybe..i just like to play casual game here and there…i actually have a ps3 too, came free with my tele…..how big is your screen? I thought 52 was big enough

    • tyler.durden on 07/10/2015 - 22:03
      -6

      PS4 is much more powerful than XBone
      It also has more sales..

      • CHIEFMEGADETH on 07/10/2015 - 22:22
        -2

        Only thing more powerful is the Ram that's it.
        no it's not "much more powerful"
        I love my PS4, But im still waiting for Games.
        Multi platform games Yes. Exclusives this year Xbox One has some serious power this holidays season.
        Cant wait for Uncharted 4!

        Wii had more sales then both consoles last gen. Did that make the Wii better then 360 or PS3?

        • Iggemo on 08/10/2015 - 12:14
          -1

          No idea why you got downvoted

          PS4 is a bit more powerful but i dont notice the diff between 900p and 1080p and i prefer to play forza 6 and Halo 5 than - well, the black void of no exclusives on Crapstation

        • pointless martyr on 08/10/2015 - 15:03
          +1

          @Iggemo: dont forget gears of war too!

        • kasp on 08/10/2015 - 16:24
          +6

          @tyler.durden:

          Microsoft has better engineers and more advanced development tools. Hell they managed to make the xbox one Xbox 360 backwards compatible and no one thought that would be possible.

          With Direct X 12 around the corner and the huge boost AMD cards get with that I think the performance difference will practically vanish.

          Really the question should be these days as what games do you prefer. I went with Xbox initially because of Halo and the rare collection but will certainly get a ps4 later on because of a few exclusives that way. I have a feeling my xbox will get more playtime though.

        • Charity on 09/10/2015 - 06:59

          @kasp:
          why wouldn't xbox + xbox be compatible? The fact that it wasn't is a joke.

          Kind of like being thankful for microsoft "allowing" games to be played offline after everyone got pissed.

        • kasp on 09/10/2015 - 09:06
          +3

          @Son ofa Zombie:

          They run different architectures which means they are not compatible at all. For instance the early model ps3's were PS2 compatible because they had PS2 hardware built into the PS3. They dropped it later on due to how expensive it was to actually put ps2 hardware in a ps3.

          So that means it has to be emulated and the fact they managed to do this is quite remarkable and required amazing engineering feats. Noone in the tech/games industry thought it could happen and the original xbox has barely been emulated successfully yet let alone the Xbox 360. When they announced it was going to be Xbox 360 compatible everyone who knows some stuff about emulation jaw kind of dropped to the ground and everyone was thinking the same thing "How the (profanity) did they manage that"

          It's not as simple as they are both Xbox's so they should be compatible, they actually need to run the same hardware to make them compatible which just isn't possible unless they wanted to jack up the cost of their systems by a few hundred dollars like the original ps3's by adding xbox 360 hardware as well as making the units bigger.

        • sallan75 on 09/10/2015 - 09:28
          -1

          @tyler.durden:

          Plenty of games on the Xbox One are 1080p. As time goes by and developers get better most games should be 1080p.

        • tyler.durden on 09/10/2015 - 12:36
          -2

          @sallan75:

          Maybe, but it would only run at 30fps..

          Some big titles had to be downgraded to 900p or 720p cos it just not powerful enough

        • tyler.durden on 09/10/2015 - 12:37

          @kasp:

          Microsoft better engineers?

          Yet they put in lower spec and less powerful console than ps4..

          http://www.gameranx.com/img/14-Jul/gpus.jpg

          The ps3 cell processor was an amazing tech when it came out..
          Even the US Army bought the consoles just for their processing power.

          Microsoft couldn't even make anything like that.

        • Benjamin7711 on 09/10/2015 - 13:12
          +1

          @Son ofa Zombie:

          I don't see PS3 compatible with PS4 though…

        • kasp on 09/10/2015 - 16:43
          +2

          @tyler.durden:

          Definitely better,the fact they got Xbox 360 backwards compatibly so quickly is testimony to that.

          Putting in eSRAM is a great move as well but it's early days. You can't expect them to have a mature set of dev kits so early or that developers could utilize them. This definitely narrows the bandwidth gap or possibly even eliminates it or even gives them an edge. Also Tflops aren't everything for instance the GTX 580 had 1.6 Tflops and ddr 3 memory while the 6970 had 2.7 TFlops and DDR 5 and the 580 absolutely smoked the 6970 regardless of Tflops and using much slower memory. Granted since they both uses AMD it is a bit more meaningful than that comparison but it just shows you what different engineering can accomplish.

          MS has amazing Dev kits and the fact that the Xbone is so new and that DX12 already has such huge performance gains and there are other factors.

          I have no doubt with the Dev kit,s, direct X 12, ms is going to close that gap significantly and really the difference won't be that noticeable at the end of the day. The real question people should be asking themselves is which games would they prefer playing. Marginally better looking graphics shouldn't be a huge factor with someones purchase.

          However with FF7 remake, Drake and plenty of other exclusives Xbox and PS really trade blows on which is the better system to own.

          Or you could go (profanity) it and buy a wii u and bask in smash bros goodness.

        • sallan75 on 09/10/2015 - 20:39
          +3

          @tyler.durden:

          I know you are trying hard, you look between your legs and are sad, so live through your PS4. There are plenty of PS4 games that are only 30 FPS and some aren't even 1080P. There are plenty of 1080P Xbone games and quite a few are 1080P @ 60 FPS.

          Trying to have a pissing contest when your console can't hit 1080P either on games like BF4, Hardlines, etc seems a little bizarre. Both consoles aren't that powerful, its like arguing whats more powerful between a Hyundai i30 or Kia Cerato.

          Choose a console based on games, friends and the service. If you have to come here slagging the other console off, when the aim of a console is just to have fun. Then maybe you should re-evaluate why you play games? Is it to have fun or measure up?

        • Binchicken22 on 10/10/2015 - 07:34

          @kasp:

          I think your being very hopefull about the performance difference vanishing… It's like saying this 3.0 v6 will end up making more power than this 6.0 v8 because it's going to use some new great fuel… The gfx hardware on the ps4 is in the order of 80% more powerful, and whatever tricks ms pull software wise there is nothing stopping Sony doing the same thing anyway.

        • Binchicken22 on 10/10/2015 - 09:50

          No the GPU is also significant more powerful. In the range of 50-80%.

        • deanylev on 10/10/2015 - 20:08

          Okay no, you're completely wrong. I'm not a fanboy of either, I personally game on a PC, but…

          The PS4 has a MUCH more powerful GPU.
          It has theoretical peak performance of 1.84TFLOPs vs the Xbone's 1.23TFLOPS, that's a 50% difference…

        • kasp on 12/10/2015 - 13:31
          -1

          @brad1601:
          @deanylev:

          Actually it's not so much about the PS4 being 80% more powerful (It isn't) The GPU is certainly more powerful in the PS4 but it's not THAT much more powerful.

          The ps4 has about the equivalent of a 7870 put in it and the Xbox a 7790. You would no way say the 7870 is 50% more powerful than a 7790 let alone 80%. A 7870 gets a 3d mark score of 8260 while the 7790 has a score of 6040. So it's about 25% weaker and don't forget the Xbox has a more powerful cpu.

          So the question is could MS engineers with superior dev kits, DX 12, a more powerful cpu (granted not much) and a good sound chip make ground on 25% and the answer to that of course is yes.

          PS4 will always have the superior hardware but it's not like it is heaps better.

      • sleepyowl on 08/10/2015 - 09:57
        +3

        I've been a long time xbox supporter and own the one and even I can admit that it's significantly weaker than the ps4. From some games running the full 60fps to the resolution. It sucks but ah well you buy it for the exclusives not for the power. I have a pc for that.

        • sallan75 on 09/10/2015 - 23:54

          He truthful, even the PS4 isn't hitting 1080p 60fps regularly.

  • Sage on 07/10/2015 - 08:18

    Worth mentioning, a price drop is rumoured for the PS4 soon.
    I don't own either console, but the PS4 probably offers better value whether it's cheaper or not. Quality>Quantity.

  • imurgod on 07/10/2015 - 08:45
    +23

    As an ex PS4 owner and now Xbox one owner, I'll say the xbox one represents better value and here's why:

    1. Despite the more powerful hardware in the ps4,there is almost no difference because the optimisation of the xbox hardware is great and direct xbox 12 is said to make a big increase in the way it runs.

    2. Since Phil Spencer took over, xbox has been listening to the gamers and adding functionality monthly by updating.

    3. Fully integrated with Windows 10 (if you have it on your pc) and it streams to your pc if you want so you can play on your laptop and leave the TV free

    4. Games (this was a biggie for me). Xbox one has better games if you like range. Racing games in particular. Also, games are not region locked so you can buy cheap games overseas. Ps4 is region locked.

    5. The controller feels amazing if you have human sized hands

    6. Xbox live is a lot more stable and if you're going online, it makes a difference

    7. You get free games every month

    8. Sony's online system has been hacked a few times and peoples account details stolen

    9. Xbox one has backwards compatibility where ps4 doesnt

    10. Kinect is awesome. If you've used it, you cant go back. It's voice commands are superb

    11. You can snap apps and TV whilst still gaming

    This is my personal view and the ps4 has its merits too. For me, it just didn't stack up to my friends xboxes though and I'm very happy I made the switch.

    I will buy another ps4 when they price drop for games like the last of us but the xbox will remain my main console.

    I hope this helps but at the end of the day it comes down to your personal preference for games, the controller and the online system.

    Good luck!

    • [Deactivated] on 07/10/2015 - 09:32
      +16

      Only read your first point and realised how biased that was so didn't continue.

      Check digital foundry and come vivacious to tell us how well your Xbone optimisation does against superior hardware.

      • [Deactivated] on 07/10/2015 - 12:27
        +2

        Wtf is this autocorrect doing to me? Typed 'back' and came out with 'vivacious'?!

        A better thread may have been, which android keyboard has a decent autocorrect/predictive function? (with slide function)

      • imurgod on 07/10/2015 - 18:58
        +1

        I think you might be biased. I haven't seen any benefits of note. I agree that the hardware is more powerful but the gap is all but closed where it matters except that the xbox one has more functionality with the media stuff it can do. I don't mind what console people get. For me it's the games and online system of which both are superior on xbox in my opinion.

        You may have different to tastes and that's ok too. I'm just responding to the OP and from a bargain perspective, it's the xbox. For the record, if I want superior hardware, I'll use my pc. If you're toting console hardware superiority…. Well you know the rest

        • [Deactivated] on 07/10/2015 - 21:07
          +6

          So how does smooth 1080p compared to 900p and framerate issues in many cross platform games even compare?

          I used to be a big Xbox fan, I've got nothing against them and was a fan of Halo, Forza and Gears when they were all in their prime. It's good that you still enjoy all of them, I got sick of them after they all past their third or fourth titles.

        • tyler.durden on 07/10/2015 - 22:07
          +3

          @Where's_That_Cake:

          yeap imurgod failed to mention that ps4 runs at 1080p while xbone does not..

        • CHIEFMEGADETH on 07/10/2015 - 22:39
          -1

          @tyler.durden: Wait so X1 cant do 1080p?
          Then Forza 5 and 6 and Destiny on X1 1080p is a lie, and the many other 1080p plus 60fps games on x1? According to you is fake? Microsoft lied to us?
          Of course im going to believe some random dude on the internets.

        • RocketSwitch on 07/10/2015 - 23:47
          +14

          This is bias.

          1. Most critics who review the games clearly state the PS4 version is better if the third party titles come out on all systems.

          2. Fair point.

          3. Fair point.

          4. You need to look at the exclusives for each, the PS4 has more and a better range not including remasters or games scoring under 78%:

          PS4: Bloodborne, Resogun, Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN-, N++, Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance, Tearaway Unfolded, Galak-Z: The Dimensional, Helldivers, LittleBigPlanet 3, Until Dawn, inFamous: Second Son and Everybody's Gone to the Rapture.

          XBONE: Forza Motorsport 5, 6, Forza Horizon 2 and Sunset Overdrive that's it!

          PS4: 11
          XBONE: 4 and 3 of those are racing games.

          5.. That's personal opinion. I like both, maybe the Xbox one a bit more.

          6.. I agree.

          7.. So does PS4 with PS Plus, you tend to get 4-6 games free every month, so this is irrelevant.

          8.. Any business can be hacked.

          9.. Good point, but this is point 2.

          10.. I agree, voice commands are much better than PS4.

          11.. Hm, yeah, not sure about this point. Seems more annoying than useful. But, personal opinion.

          IMO, what XBONE has over PS4 is the backward compatibility and the ability to use HDD to extend storage. The Kinect and voice commands are superior than PS4. The controller is personal opinion, but I do like XBONE controller slightly better.

          In terms of gaming, PS4 owns the XBONE hands down! Almost 3 times as much exclusive AAA titles to date. Third party games almost always perform better going by professional reviews. Most PS4 exclusive stay PS4 exclusive while XBONE release them for PC.

        • JimmyJim on 08/10/2015 - 12:41

          @justmiike:

          What the hell is Guilty Gear Xrd? Or Disgaea 5? I havent even heard of Disgaea 1, 2, 3 or 4. Not to mention Tearaway Unfolded, Galak-Z or Helldivers. I mean N++? Really you're gonna prop that up as a console exclusive winner? That's Bias.

          At least be a bit more balanced, if you're going to include the more random exclusives do the same for Xbox. You didn't even mention Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Smite or Titanfall? All of which are far more renowned than Disgaea 5.

        • MrFunSocks on 08/10/2015 - 18:11

          @Where's_That_Cake: 99% of people would not be able to tell a difference between 900p and 1080p on their tv. The difference from the regular viewing distance is negligible. You only really notice when you get up close or play on a monitor at a desk.

          As for framerate, many XB1 games actually run at a better, more stable framerate because they're not pushing for 1080p. Go watch Forza 6 at 1080p/100% locked 60fps and tell me it's not smooth. For all the talk of the PS4 being 1080p/60fps, the XB1 has the only games that are actually locked at that framerate 100% of the time at that resolution.

          The PS4 is more powerful, no doubt about that. Does it make a noticeable difference in normal playing conditions? Nope, not at all. Most people wouldn't even see a difference between the 2.

        • RocketSwitch on 09/10/2015 - 10:41
          -3

          @JimmyJim:

          Sorry, but your ignorance isn't my problem. If you haven't heard of them, how is it my problem for this arguments sake?

          I didn't pick exclusive winners, I picked EXCLUSIVES. How the hell is that bias???

          Is Halo 5 and Gears of War 4 out yet? No. Heck, GoW4 is not even schedule until another year.

          Smite and Titanfall are on PC.

          Smite and Titanfall better than Disgaea 5? Okay, wow. I guess it's personal opinion, but the vast majority of gamers EVERYWHERE will disagree with you.

        • MrFunSocks on 09/10/2015 - 17:44

          @justmiike: Wait, you think that the vast majority of gamers have even heard of Disgaea 5?! lol. Mate saying the vast minority of gamers have heard of Disgaea 5 is over estimating how many actually have.

      • CHIEFMEGADETH on 07/10/2015 - 22:30
        -8

        You sound biased? Superior hardware? Other then PS4's Ram thats all that is better on PS4. Everything else is just opinions.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/10/2015 - 22:39
          +3

          So explain why the PS4 consistently puts out the better multiplats? Just getting lucky every time I guess.

          Xbone multiplats are usually 900P, PS4 1080P.

        • tonyjzx on 08/10/2015 - 17:33
          +3

          The 1,080p games on Xbox are an exception and when it does achieve it, it does it by scaling down GFX a lot.

          I have an xbox and its always 1,080p ps4, 900p Xbox whenever a game comes out. Its happens so often they may as well call it the Xbox900.

    • liuzhen on 07/10/2015 - 10:58
      +17

      Just an FYI:

      1. DirectX 12 won't make much of a difference.
      2. PS4 is not region locked. I have EU, US and AUS games that all work. Only DLC is a possible issue
      3. PS4 controller also feels great
      4. I wouldn't call it free when you pay for Xbox Live each month (but PS4 also has arguably better 'free' games every month via PS+)
      5. Both have been hacked and have downtime but I would agree that Xbox Live is a more reliable service
      6. PSNow
      7. Everyone I've spoken to hates in. However the PSCamera also has voice commands if thats the main attraction of Kinect.
      8. I don't see the point. If I want to watch TV > I watch TV. If I want to game I game.

      That said, I agree that they both have good and bad points and it really comes down to preference.

      • [Deactivated] on 07/10/2015 - 12:30
        +2

        I've got to agree about Kinect, all my friends with xbones (only a few tbh) have either dc'ed their Kinect or bought the console without it.

        Hell MS has already dropped it haven't they with the core console package.

      • imurgod on 07/10/2015 - 18:51

        What makes you say that dx12 won't make much difference? It's supposed to work well with the new Windows 10 os coming in the November update.

      • ATangk on 07/10/2015 - 21:02

        Does the PS4 controller have that trigger thing that the XB1 has? I think i remember that as one of their 'selling' points.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/10/2015 - 21:09

          They both have their strong points. Xbox has rumble trigger, PS4 has touchpad and headphone jack

          (I know you can buy a new model controller that has the jack for Xbox as well now)

        • ATangk on 07/10/2015 - 22:19

          @Where's_That_Cake:
          Wasnt quite the rumble trigger (although this is good), but the impulse trigger feature.

          For this, i meant, say for a racing game, depressing the trigger halfway will only use half acceleration, instead of a standard trigger button which is on/off. Is this a standard thing? or exclusive to XBONE?

        • [Deactivated] on 07/10/2015 - 22:26

          @ATangk: That's standard on both controllers. I do prefer the special edition Xbone controller designs. Some are great.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/10/2015 - 22:56

          @ATangk:

          The ps3 had this and they called it analog triggers, was great for racing games for accel and brake.

          Also not many people would know but the 4 buttons are pressure sensitive as well.
          Perfect example is metal gear solid: snake eater where you used the square to aim but press softly then a final hard press to fire trigger, love snake ester and used this often.

        • ATangk on 07/10/2015 - 23:04

          @Hotkolbas:
          Nope, had no clue haha. I skipped the 360/ps3 gen, and I only own an XB1, which is really just gathering dust. I prefer PC games, but I actually don't know how people find the time to engage in lengthy console gaming sessions. The PC I can alt tab between gaming/study/work when the games arent very attention demanding.

        • [Deactivated] on 08/10/2015 - 09:19

          @ATangk:

          Well that's the thing consoles are for gaming and video entertainment.

          I have a gaming laptop but when the ps3 got released my gaming pc shat itself on an epic scale so the cost of rebuilding one or buying a ps3 was a huge difference and I don't regret not building a gaming pc until recently with my laptop.

          Once you get use to using a controller its all ok but also I have an adapter that mimics a controller and I plug my keyboard and mouse into it, very easy to do and master…..

          All in all its what ever floats your boat.

      • tyler.durden on 07/10/2015 - 22:08
        +1

        there's pro and cons of ps4 controller..

        It is not as good for fps but better for fighting game.

        Xbox one triggers are much better..

    • ilikeradiohead on 07/10/2015 - 12:47

      Kinect and snapping apps is pretty naff. On the old 360 if you got an achievement it would show you instantly, now that you have to snap it it takes forever. The kinect is cool sometimes, but more often than not it doesn't work because it requires you to use stilted language which is slower than just using the controller.

      • [Deactivated] on 07/10/2015 - 15:45
        +1

        Stilted language is exactly the proven with the PS4 camera as well. I've used it to show the kids but other than that it is impractical.

      • imurgod on 07/10/2015 - 18:53

        Not sure if you are on the preview program but lots of that stuff is faster with the new dash

      • tyler.durden on 07/10/2015 - 22:09

        plus is any good kinect games?

        seems like just a gimmick..

    • Jayphen on 07/10/2015 - 20:07
      +1

      Regarding point 1 — there are many games that only run in 1080p @ 60fps on PS4. That's actually a significant difference.

    • 50cent on 08/10/2015 - 22:30

      i did not realize that the PS4 is region locked. Thats a deal breaker for me. Was PS3 the same..?

      • Ventak on 09/10/2015 - 14:55

        That point is completely wrong, PS4 is not region locked. Neither was the PS3. The only home console to be region locked in the current generation are Nintendo ones.

    • This Guy on 08/10/2015 - 23:38

      Kinects are cool, but they have a camera connected to the internet.

      I had my Xbox in my bedroom, so I kept a game case in front of my Kinect's camera for privacy.

      One night I'm woken up at 2AM and hear a robot. My Kinect had turned it's self on, knocked the case over and was panning up and down. My Xbox's HDD was spinning (mine is loud) but only the Kinect's IR lights were on so I turned it off at the wall and went back to bed.

      My Xbox could still get infrared images so I'm guessing either my Xbox was mapping my room so my Kinect would work better or it was testing to see if a camera had failed.

      I know the chance of anyone exploiting this function on the Xbox is low, but both rental companies and school administrators have remotely turned on laptop cameras and recorded users naked.

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=laptop+records+user+naked

      /end rant

    • mp3police on 10/10/2015 - 00:28

      LOL
      "direct xbox 12"
      he thinks the X is for xbox

      • Kikkoman56 on 10/10/2015 - 03:02

        It is actually kinda, but the other way round. The original Xbox was actually pitched as the "Direct Xbox" -https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_(console)

        • mp3police on 10/10/2015 - 11:13
          -1

          so then its not at all ..
          since direct x came out in 1995

        • Kikkoman56 on 10/10/2015 - 12:34
          +1

          @mp3police: hence why I said the other way round.

  • Pootie Tang on 07/10/2015 - 08:53
    +6

    Big thing for me is the controller. Xbox wins this battle. Bargains? Just keep swimming.

    • tyler.durden on 07/10/2015 - 22:10
      -5

      it has a better controller for fps, cos the trigger feels more better

      but their d-pad sucks for fighting games.

      Ps4 dpad is much better for fighting games.

      ===

      I don't think using thumbstick for fighting games feel right..
      IT is hard to pull off moves on thumbstick.

      You need a proper arcade sticks

      • CHIEFMEGADETH on 07/10/2015 - 23:22
        -2

        X1 Dpad is way better then PS4 Dpad. X1 used Nintendo's Dpad this time around!
        PS3 DS3 Dpad was amazing, but ps4 DS4 uses shitty plastic and bigger buttons, puts it down im afraid. IMO :)

        • tyler.durden on 08/10/2015 - 00:57
          -2

          yeah I don't have experience with ps4 dpad so don't know

          but I found pulling of moves on ps3 dpad easier than xbox360

          I think dpad in one single piece of plastic is hard to pull off moves on.

        • JimmyJim on 08/10/2015 - 12:46
          +4

          @tyler.durden: "yeah I don't have experience with ps4 dpad so don't know"

          I'm confused do you have a PS4 or don't you? You're certainly sprouting off knowledge like you do.

        • kasp on 09/10/2015 - 18:29

          @tyler.durden:

          Xbox 360 dpad was an absolute joke.

          Xbox one hasn't made that mistake.

          I prefer the xbox 1 controller but my girlfriend loves the ps4 one. They both have pro's and cons and I think it's really a matter of preference. I love the touchpad area of the ps4 remote but really that's only because I find it easier to drive the pc it connects into. Don't know how useful that would actually be in game.

        • tyler.durden on 09/10/2015 - 18:31

          @kasp:

          how easy is it to pull off street moves with the nintendo style dpad?

          the previous attempt for the dpad for xbox and xbox 360 is just crap.

        • kasp on 09/10/2015 - 18:36

          @tyler.durden:

          Well it depends how much stock you put in it. I don't use the dpad much so I don't really care and I don't play many fighters.

          I wouldn't use the Xb1 remote for a fighter because it's too clicky, but it is probably as responsive/easy to use as the ps4. Just it makes more noise (dunno why)

          Then again if you were that serious about fighting games I wouldn't use either and get a fighting stick.

        • tyler.durden on 09/10/2015 - 18:38

          @kasp:

          Yes, that is most ideal
          but those sticks are quite expensive..

          http://www.razerzone.com/au-en/store/razer-atrox-xbox-one

          For the price of those sticks
          I can build my own mame arcade cabinet

          I just want to know it is good for street fighter games

        • kasp on 09/10/2015 - 18:41

          @tyler.durden:

          Yeah it should be ok, it's responsive and you can really tell you have hit a button,even more than the ps4. Suppose if you had the volume up it would be fine the buttons do make slightly more noise than pushing the X,Y,A,B buttons

          However I have a feeling the ps4 controller would be slightly better because of it's design but it would be close.

        • tyler.durden on 09/10/2015 - 18:45

          @kasp:

          ps4 dpad is similar to ps3 dpad
          and I had no problems doing moves on it..

          xbox360 and xbox dpad however are crap.
          Making one piece of circle plastic shaped like the thumbstick is a crap idea.
          It is very hard to do moves on it.

        • kasp on 09/10/2015 - 19:42

          @tyler.durden:

          Xbox one dpad isn't like xbox 360.

          It's like the ps4 dpad but the buttons are joined. Just google a picture and you will see what I mean.

          The elite xbox controller will probably smoke everything buts that's heaps expensive.

        • tyler.durden on 09/10/2015 - 19:46

          @kasp:

          I know the xbox one dpad
          it like's nintendo dpad.

          ==

          I refer to the old xbox dpad, not xbox one

          http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/d/d4/Xbox.p…

      • Pootie Tang on 08/10/2015 - 09:17

        I haven't see anyone play a fighting game for years. Use to smash MVSC years ago and it was sweet on xbox and 360. I suppose MK10 and that are out now. Arcade is the only way to go for fighting games imo.

    • EnALup on 08/10/2015 - 07:49

      I agree with that. I could not play with PS3 controller when at a friend's place. Never had a problem with XBox360 or Xbox1 remotes. If I cant use controller properly, why would I need best resolution.
      Use XB1 controller for my PC as well.

      • tyler.durden on 09/10/2015 - 18:38

        what wireless receiver do u use?

        • EnALup on 09/10/2015 - 21:24

          I used to use XBox360 wireless controller for Windows earlier, but XBox one works with the Micro USB cable. Works fine as I play from the PC sitting nearby and also dont need batteries for charging.

        • tyler.durden on 09/10/2015 - 22:40

          @Gaggy:

          i prefer wireless.

          there's a new dongle for xbox1 but it only works on windows 10

          I like ps3 controller cos it is bluetooth
          easy to connect pc.

        • EnALup on 10/10/2015 - 02:55

          @tyler.durden: Bluetooth= more lag. Not sure if good for few online games.

  • cypher67 on 07/10/2015 - 09:28

    I own a PS4 and there is yet to be a game that really interests me unfortunately, doesn't look that much different for XBone. I use it for Netflix and the odd Fifa night with my mates every 3-6 months. Very much regret the purchase personally.

    • Fappo on 07/10/2015 - 09:51
      +6

      I bought a PS4 earlier in the year when Bloodborne came out, and I've been thoroughly enjoying the games constantly since the purchase.

      Bloodborne
      Witcher 3
      Diablo 3
      Dragon Age Inquisition
      Arkham Knight
      Last of Us Remaster
      Metal Gear Solid 5

      Granted though, Bloodborne and Last of Us are the only ones you can't play on PC, but that is a solid half year+ of gaming I've had right there.

      • tyler.durden on 07/10/2015 - 22:14
        +5

        most of those games are on PC
        and they look much better..

        • CHIEFMEGADETH on 07/10/2015 - 23:17
          -3

          PC ports are terrible compared to console version these days. MKx. Batman AK and so on

        • Fappo on 08/10/2015 - 00:44

          Ya, that'd be why I said "Bloodborne and Last of Us are the only ones you can't play on PC".

        • tyler.durden on 08/10/2015 - 00:55
          +1

          @CHIEFMEGADETH:

          That's cos they put the stupid denovo copy protection on it.
          and they didn't do proper optimization on it.

          Just play something metal gear solid 5.

          Looks much better than any consoles and runs smooth

        • dogboy on 08/10/2015 - 17:24

          @tyler.durden: So true. While it looks great, the Witcher 3 runs very poorly on my PC which is ridiculously more powerful than a PS4/XBone.

        • tyler.durden on 08/10/2015 - 19:49

          @dogboy:

          It's cos the developers didn't optimized properly for pc.

          The reason why some games slower is due to the stupid copy protection
          else PC is king.

          I've been playing metal gear 5 on pc and it looks and runs very smooth

        • newsynthetic on 09/10/2015 - 02:33

          @dogboy: Actually that was Nvidia's doing they wanted you to buy the 900 Series and downgraded the previous gen for a while.

    • vid_ghost on 07/10/2015 - 09:55

      Guild Wars 2 and League of legends .. hours of fun.. both only on PC

      Its not the PS4 or Xbone its always, always! about the games. :)

      I have neither and will probably snap up a PS4 sometime in the future when something worthwhile comes out on it.

      • [Deactivated] on 07/10/2015 - 12:31

        Bloodborne is already there ;)

    • ilikeradiohead on 07/10/2015 - 12:48

      Yeah game selection is a bit thin on the ground for both. I only bought my Xbox one when I did because of those cray sales at the end of last year where I got 6 games included.

  • Axelstrife on 07/10/2015 - 10:07
    +2

    neither they always come second place to pc gaming for me.

    i own a pc and a ps4.

  • ShamelessBargains on 07/10/2015 - 10:55
    +1

    Where's my popcorn? Waiting for the console wars to begin in this thread :)

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