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I Scored Myself Another Panel via Ebay Deal thats going around.
My First ozbargain - Be Gentle…
Get in Quick while the Deal is On if your into Solar..
Another Panel for My Collection..
200w Solar Panel - $175.20 Delivered (Save $43.80) @ Outbaxcamping.com.au
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Lmutanti on 04/02/2016 - 19:49 ebay.com.au (479 clicks)
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Great… they will possibly send a dead panel…
Just what i wanted to see..I bought a MaxRay 12V 120W solar folding panel kit from them listed for $195 in late December and it appears to work charging a battery but I'm not solar enthusiast or savvy so don't know how to easily test/verify product claims/quality.
I Did check his feedback and appeared to be only .9% unhappy… And a Lot of Sales ? 99.1% Were happy… I hope I'm one of them… Digging a little deeper into his feedback now..
eBay feedback for large traders is not accurate! I have been through the process with AGRMachinery (another ripoff merchant).
They will remove negative feedback with a complaint from the seller, worse eBay will not tell you why your negative feedback was removed and they will suggest that you utilise the forums instead.I beat AGR but only through luck and a tracking number that PayPal accepted :)
A seller I bought from sold 5000 items, with no intent to send any. He received only bad feedback and still had 74% feedback score. Aliexpress when I checked, was more realistic.
I have Told my Wife if She receives Parcel on Monday ( Have been Given tracking Information already Via Email ) to Check and open panel before siging the toll paperwork to accept Delivery. I Cant complain about Delivery times considering its coming from Sydney to vic Country…
You could video the "unboxing" also. I assume you paid by paypal. If "not as described" then cancel via paypal using the video as supporting evidence.
Yes. Paid With paypal. Will Recorerd the Unboxing.
@redcreek200: Thanks for your good advise :)
How likely is a courier going to stand there and wait while your wife is carefully unboxing the package while filming the procedure.
Besides, the courier has completed his end of the deal by delivering it and unlikely to take it back as a return to the seller without being paid for it.
"Just hold on Mr Courier, I'll unbox the panel and hook it up to a MPPT and power meter and then we'll wait for a sunny day. I'll go make up the guest room in the meantime."
A long long time ago in a country town a long long way away, as receiving dock employees for Woolworths Big W, we were instructed to hand-write "received subject to inspection" alongside our signature on the consignment note, and to keep a copy of the note.
The courier won't wait around while you open and fiddle, but I guess the "subject to inspection" might help a little if you want to argue after the fact.
"German Certified" is a label for muppets.
"Manufactured to German Standards" is a statement for muppets.
"Can provide poawer to all standard electronic appliances and tools" is a statement for muppets.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AKXlhpeb6wI/hqdefault.jpg"Waterproof connectors", yet says nothing about waterproof panel. No IP rating mentioned.
"the only brand on ebay with German tuv certification"… except these other ones of course: http://ebay.com.au/itm/331639809484 http://ebay.com.au/itm/251929376137
Beware the German certification is not correct. They spec their 120 watt panel as 18v whent it is 14V as it consists of 28 segments at 0.5 volts. An 18v panel will have 36 segments. What true certification would allow that. They are knowingly trading panels that are unfit for purpose. Ebay removes feedback without recourse to poster and no record of ever being posted. Does not even go in the revised feed back total. Shonky trader.
probably same certification that vw used for their emissions :D
Please let us know how you progress with this purchase.
Try to record as much as you can and compile as much evidence as possible.
There are plenty of people here to help you out, from how to check the product through to dealing with Paypal/Ebay etc etc.
Don't give up and spread the word on Shonky traders like this.
I utterly hate thieves, give them hell
Well Last Night I put a Cancel Order Via Ebay.
Today when I got home from work found Email Below
HiThank you
Upon checking this is already shipped out and paid for
If you would like to have this refunded please reject it when the courier brings it to you
Please also note that this will fall under our "Change of Mind" policy
Let us know once you've rejected the item alreadyCheers
XXXxxSee How this Goes when I receive it.
Will Be Definatly be checking the Voltage when i receive it…
As per Spec Sheet..
Max Power 200W
Max Power Voltage 18.0V
Max Power Current 11.2A
Open-Circuit Voltage 22.1V
Short-Circuit Current 11.6A
Cell Efficiency 16.8%
Maximum System Voltage 1000V
Temperature Range -40°C - 85°C
Power Tolerance ±2%
Standard Test Conditions 1000W/m2, AM1.5, 25°C
Solar Cell Mono
Front Glass 3.2mm Tempered Glass
Maximum Hail Load steel ball 1m
Frame Anodized Aluminium
Dimension 1580 x 808 x 35mm
Weight 19kgSo if Sunny that should mean that there should be approx 18 V or 22 V with Nothing plugged in - just the Meter ?
Equally important (if not more) to measure amps. Point at sun, hopefully measure 11amps (11amps x 18volts = 200watts)
I Have a Digital Clamp meter… Will check it when it arrives..
http://www.selectsolar.co.uk/uploads/asset_file/How%20to%20T…
Panel Arrived today While Both myself and wife were away getting Baby scans ( Wife - not me ), Toll have left it in My garage ( have agreement to leave parcels in safe spot with delivery drivers due to amount of deliveries I get for Business ) Box had some slight damage but have taken photos and small video before unboxing….
Slid it carefully out of box and leaned it on the side of my Shed facing sun. ( Beautiful day - No Clouds 39 Deg C according to the temp guage on my decking..
Have connected up and checked Volts … Will attach Some here for you to see.
I guess I still need to connect a solar regulator and measure Amps somehow…
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/mutanti/2016-02-09%20…
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/mutanti/2016-02-09%20…
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/mutanti/2016-02-09%20…http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/mutanti/2016-02-09%20…
OK now to work out how to check amps Somehow…
So if I am Correct Watts = AMPS X Volts..
So 18.62 Volts x 9.1 Amps would Equal around 169.442 Watts..I Hope that is about right..
its a 200watt panel.
Temp outside is 39.4 Deg and full sun - No Clouds..I would Assume at such a hot tempreture it wont be as efficient ( Burnt my hands trying to hold it. )
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mutanti/media/2016-02-09%201…
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mutanti/media/2016-02-09%201…
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mutanti/media/2016-02-09%201…What are your thoughts about this panel…
Does it sound up to Scratch for the $$$http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/mutanti/2016-02-13%20…
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/mutanti/2016-02-13%20…
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/mutanti/2016-02-13%20…Connected to a Little Inverter
Getting above readings….
First full sun . very hot day Around 1 pm give or take Full Sun - No Clouds
second Volts Dc and third shot Amps DC
Google outbax and warranty / returns.
Read the whirlpool forum on same (this: http://whrl.pl/RewxIx ) amongst many others.
You have been warned.
I have recently taken them to fair trading over DOA product (not a solar panel) and their failure to admit fault or provide address for return.
Whilst the price is good for the description of the product, I am exercising right to neg based on "Major issues with retailer" as allowed per voting guidelines in the wiki.