How Much Do uberX Drivers Get Paid?

Lcoco nuts on 19/02/2016 - 13:44
Last edited 19/02/2016 - 18:23 by 1 other user

Hi Everyone.

According to my calculations. I think uberx driver in australia is the lowest paid legal worker in Australia. Below are my Calculations.

UBERX give driver
$30 per hour
20 % discount in brisbane $30 - $6 = $24
Minus GST $24 - $2.20 = $21.80
Minus Fuel used $21.80 - $4.80 = $16
Minus Tax $16 - $3 = $13
Minus Car Maintenance $13 - $3 = $10
Minus Insurance Exp $10 - $2 = $8
Minus Free Water $8 - $1 = $7.

That comes to $7 per hour for one hour driving. And no Superannuation. UBER Charges 20% of UBERX Driver income which i have not even deducted.

I this this is a big slap on Australain Fair Trading.

Please comment if you agree or disagree.

Please dont use uber. We dont want poor full time working people.

Thanks.

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  • Schema on 19/02/2016 - 13:45
    -4

    Minus Fuel = 16

    $16 in fuel in an hour?
    Water $7?

    • coco nuts on 19/02/2016 - 13:54
      +3

      $16 is not in fuel its left income after that fuel expense.

    • blitz on 19/02/2016 - 16:12
      +2

      $16 in fuel in an hour?

      Read it again. It's $4.80 in fuel, leaving $16. Same for the water.

      • Schema on 19/02/2016 - 19:05
        +12

        I commented when he first posted it, it was not formatted at all.

  • ols108 on 19/02/2016 - 13:51
    +102

    How many Taxis do you own Saggy?

    • Islund on 19/02/2016 - 14:21
      +53

      I will never ever use a Sydney cab again - thank you Uber!

        • altomic on 19/02/2016 - 14:55
          +35

          Like the wheels on a bus?

        • onetwothreefour on 19/02/2016 - 19:44
          +63

          Do you believe in KARMA… what goes around comes around.

          If taxi drivers believed in karma they would use deodorant more often.

        • Talonparty on 19/02/2016 - 22:24
          +89

          Yes I do. I think of all those poor taxi drivers, each one who refused my fare because it was too far away and left me in the cold, rainy night with no public transport or other option home. I think of those bastards losing their livelihoods and businesses and it brings a smile to my face and a joyful tear to my eye.

          Karma, you bastards. Karma.

        • nickster9999 on 20/02/2016 - 11:06
          +22

          @Talonparty: I have to sympathise with you there. I haven't had lots of instances, but there have been enough times when I've booked taxis and they haven't shown up, or I've been out at night and the driver winds down the window to ask where I'm going and then drives off when I tell him, or taxi drivers who don't even stop when I flag them down. Unfortunately the taxi industry is its own worst enemy and has created the beast that is Uber. I started using Uber on a work trip to the UK last year because almost all black cabs do NOT accept credit cards, and when you pay them cash you get a silly little print out receipt that is often too faint to read, or you get a cardboard business card with the fare price written on it. That was such a hassle keeping all those receipts in my wallet to then claim as an expense with my employer. In contrast when I used Uber, all the receipts were emailed to me.

        • ChickenTalon on 20/02/2016 - 17:20
          +28

          @nickster9999: this is precisely why taxies are in for a world of hurt, until they stop shitting in the hand that feeds them.

          There is NOTHING stopping taxis offering:
          - clean cars
          - odorless cars
          - being polite
          - not ditching bookings they don't like
          - offering water
          - not acting like arseholes
          - driving properly
          - working/easy apps to book a taxi

          If taxis offered a reasonable service then uber would have no hope. As it is, uber is cheaper and better than a taxi.

          Why would you take a taxi?

        • nx1nx1 on 22/02/2016 - 16:16
          +2

          @Talonparty: tried to take a taxi on Saturday. the guy said he was waiting off a booking so he couldn't take me. then he asked me where i was going. obviously he was lying about the booking.

        • eegos on 22/02/2016 - 16:48

          @onetwothree: lol

        • JetBombat on 22/02/2016 - 19:51

          @Talonparty: what was too far away?

        • Talonparty on 23/02/2016 - 07:15
          +2

          @JetBombat: It was a destination about 50ks distance from near perth city, I missed the last train and was stuck in the station with a massive storm. I had a wad of cash and was willing to pay extra up front but they all refused. I tried sleeping it off until the 6 am train but this ferocious storm hit and the rain was coming into the station sideways. I eventually convinced one of them to do it after a couple of hours and it cost me well over double what it should have. He drove me down the freeway at 120+ with the meter off. All the other bastards rode past with their window down and when they heard where I wanted to go they just drove off and left me in the rain, even after I showed them my cash.

          I lost my appetite for going out much after that I think and I never put myself in the position to ever have to rely on a taxi driver after a night out again, certainly never missed that last train again either.

        • paaj on 23/02/2016 - 13:12

          @Talonparty: I wonder if it would have been cheaper / easier to book a night at a hotel given you were willing to pay. p.s I live in WA so I can sympathize with you.

        • Talonparty on 23/02/2016 - 14:54

          @paaj: Heh that is exactly what my mum told me the next day and it is true. If I'm stuck like that again I'd probably go looking for a hotel and ironically the taxis would probably have been a lot more helpful then too.

      • eKPardesi on 23/02/2016 - 10:28

        please try GoCatch then :) it is OZ too!

        • Japius on 23/02/2016 - 11:15

          I read during the trial of GoCatch that drivers could see the fare before accepting, and would just ignore fares that were too short/long? Is this still the case? I recall at the time that GoCatch seemed more like a taxi than Uber. Might try them again if they give me all the same features I love about Uber

        • eKPardesi on 26/02/2016 - 09:17

          recently learned GoCatch is starting Uber style service as well now that it's legal in NSW.

  • clem0ximus on 19/02/2016 - 13:59
    +21

    $2 per hour for insurance? Are you insuring a gold plated Bentley continental GT or something?

    For arguments sake you drive 5 hours in a day, for 5 days a week. Thats a $2500 per annum insurance policy. I paid $800 for my car last year and I considered that to be high.

    • ChickenTalon on 19/02/2016 - 20:10
      +9

      And you also get an insured car to drive around other times. So it's a cost that should be apportioned.

    • soaringphoenix on 21/02/2016 - 09:30
      -3

      It's not all that unusual to be honest. I have 7 years of no claim discount with NRMA, as well as a clean licence, and pay $1800 for my SS commodore in the Eastern Suburbs. It was also a lot higher in my earlier 20s (~$2300).

      • BoomTetrisForJeff on 21/02/2016 - 23:29
        +13

        mate your getting ripped..

        • BestofOZB on 22/02/2016 - 21:48
          +2

          Big time!

      • cvas on 23/02/2016 - 10:53

        Is the SS even worth that much?

        • soaringphoenix on 23/02/2016 - 14:50
          -6

          ~50k (PWN) with performance nearly equivalent to ~$200k German rivals, I'd say yes.

        • cvas on 23/02/2016 - 15:02

          50k for a commodore? Not even sure I would spend that much on a HSV. Anyway to each his own.

        • soaringphoenix on 23/02/2016 - 16:31
          -1

          @cvas:

          Mind if I ask what you drive, to get a better understanding of your vehicle preferences?

          50K will get you a brand new SSV with 304kw and 570nm right now. Other than the XR6T/XR8, there is really no where else you can get that kind of power and refinement in a RWD sedan without spending a hell of a lot more.

        • cvas on 23/02/2016 - 17:03
          +3

          Of course.
          I drive a 75 series landcruiser worth about $500 in its current state. The engine was capable of producing 96kw when it left the factory however now, I suspect it to be more like 50kw

        • BexForHeadache on 24/02/2016 - 17:11

          @soaringphoenix: Your definition of 'nearly' must not be the same as what's in the English dictionary.

        • soaringphoenix on 24/02/2016 - 17:59
          -2

          @BexForHeadache:

          Enlighten me as to your reasoning?

          I said performance nearly equivalent to ~200k German rivals. We're talking about 304kw/570nm. The equivalent Audi/BMW/Merc will cost nearly 200k, no?

        • CrushJelly on 24/02/2016 - 23:07
          +1

          @soaringphoenix:
          What's up with the fanboyism?

          Way off topic for this thread. You have your opinions on your 1.8 tonne barge, others have theirs.

          It's a fantastic package for the money, no doubt. But not everyone's cup of tea.

  • pantsparty on 19/02/2016 - 14:03
    +17

    http://shop.coles.com.au/online/national/coles-water-spring-…

    $6.30 for 24 water bottles. Thats $0.2625 a bottle. Saving you $0.7375 a bottle. Multiply that by 10 passengers a day, 5 days a week, 52 weeks per year, I just saved you $2k!

    Saying that if I was an Uber Driver and was unhappy with the pay, I would get a different job. Sounds like your getting screwed.

      • JimB on 19/02/2016 - 14:46
        +33

        Or you can not offer them water.

      • sparkanum on 19/02/2016 - 18:14
        +5

        Your maths is a bit off.

        The way you'd work this out is average number of passengers per hour, times likelihood someone takes the water, times cost of water. You don't start with $1 and work backwards.

        Given your $30 an hour in fares estimate (questionable, but whatever) you'd be looking at one or two trips with maybe average 1.5 passengers per trip. So 3 people an hour maybe. Based on how many times I've taken the water, maybe 1/3 of the time people take water. So 1 bottle at $0.25 a bottle.

        So Matt12321 did just save you $2k, assuming you don't just take JB1's suggestion to not provide water because you only get $30 an hour in fares and have the most expensive insurance in the world. I won't touch on all the other ways this calc is bogus.

      • Japius on 23/02/2016 - 11:16
        +1

        I've never taken the water in the many ubers I have used. I wouldn't just assume that every passenger takes the water.

  • Olokun on 19/02/2016 - 14:13
    +36

    Please dont use uber. We dont want poor full time working people.

    So your solution is poor non working people?

      • neil aus on 20/02/2016 - 00:06
        +6

        Join the taxi cartels, please! They will save us all and make the taxi drivers rich!

        • Japius on 23/02/2016 - 11:17
          +1

          You mean make the plate owners rich, not necessarily the drivers.

    • [Deactivated] on 19/02/2016 - 22:53
      +2

      No offence, but are Uber drivers getting around $300 p/w for fulltime work?

      Disability/Aged pension with it's extra benefits, is near impossible to get ahead and it's something like $450 p/w I think.

      This seems crook as, and I wouldn't support it frankly.

    • gorge on 20/02/2016 - 15:53

      yes, because then you can dedicate your time to something productive instead of mindlessly driving a car.

  • Hessian Sack on 19/02/2016 - 14:40
    +3

    Obviously Australia might be very different, but this piece regarding how much an Uber X driver in Philly is paid might be instructive

    http://citypaper.net/uberdriver/

    • kipps on 19/02/2016 - 20:05
      +6

      For those who think it is TL;DR, it is someone talking about UberX in USA:

      But if I wanted to net that $90,000 a year figure that so many passengers asked about, I would only have to work, let's see …

      27 hours a day, 365 days a year.

  • JimB on 19/02/2016 - 14:49
    +13

    Car maintenance and insurance = $5/hr?

    Say 8 hours per day = $40 a day = $200 a week = $9,600 a year in maintenance?

    It helps if you don't use a new Porsche as a UBer car.

      • JimB on 19/02/2016 - 16:24
        +11

        Car service I'll give it to you, every 10,000km.

        Tyres last longer than 10,000km. Try 60,000km.

        How can you get fines for parking if you're in the car?
        Fines for driving, slow down.

        • zealmax on 19/02/2016 - 17:18
          +15

          @saggy: Why would you stop at a no stopping or bus zone? Does Uber state that you need to drop off the passengers at the most convenient spot, even if it means breaking the law?

        • kipps on 19/02/2016 - 20:08
          +18

          @saggy: You must be one of the many dangerous cab drivers I have had the misfortune of being driven around by. Here's a tip: If you're getting fines you need to DRIVE BETTER.

        • [Deactivated] on 20/02/2016 - 12:35
          +2

          @kipps:

          It seems that I'm not human now, driving for almost 20 years and not a single fine.

        • GreyRabbit on 21/02/2016 - 22:27
          +7

          @soaringphoenix:
          Are you kidding?? 2000-3000 km?? Are you drag racing everywhere you go? Doing doughnuts at roundabouts. Tyres last around 50 k with normal us

        • [Deactivated] on 21/02/2016 - 22:40
          +1

          (/comment/3480215/redir):
          Do you even?

          The current tyres on my cars. I drive very hard too and wouldn't post speeds for fear of jail time.
          Dunlop Sport Maxx - 50,000km, still a good 1mm before wear marker.

          Continental Contisportcontact5 - 7,000 before explosion due to incompetent fitment

          Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 - 4,000km including a 35'C track day. Plenty of wear left.

          I call BS to high heavens.

        • BoomTetrisForJeff on 21/02/2016 - 23:31
          +1

          @soaringphoenix: do you even have a license

        • JimB on 22/02/2016 - 10:00

          @mrwillc:

          Yup, a F1 licence.

        • JimB on 22/02/2016 - 10:02

          @soaringphoenix:

          Actually most Uber drivers do drive econoboxes around the city. Ironically it would even do more KMs if it was out of the city.

          Serious question- What car do you drive and what tyres do you use?

        • soaringphoenix on 23/02/2016 - 08:33

          @JB1:

          I'm currently driving a VEII SS. As for tyres, I honestly can't remember off the top of my head right now, sorry.

        • Binchicken22 on 23/02/2016 - 19:09

          @soaringphoenix:

          Absolutely no way you are going through a set of tyres in 2-3000kms or every 4 or 5 tanks of fuel with even 'spirited' driving.

          Even if you've got a good amount of power all the new vehicles have traction control which severely limits wheel spin, so unless you are going out of your way to slide around corners and turning TC off to do excessive line lock burnouts you should easily get a minimums of 30,000kms out of a set of tyres.

        • soaringphoenix on 23/02/2016 - 20:05

          @brad1601:

          Aha, 600-750km a tank? I'm not really even sure whether to continue further - the number is going to be closer to half of that in a 6L V8. 500km is certainly achieveable at 110km highway cruising, but not really with anything beyond that.

          Even with traction control activated, there can be plenty of tyre slip before the electronics kick in on modern vehicles - even on sensible cars like the Aurion, which will wheel spin for days before the TCS activates.

          Generally I'll agree with you however. I have seen a Hyundai i30 through 50,000km on a single set of tyres.

        • speedyjonzalas on 24/02/2016 - 22:53

          @tshow:

          Maybe he using track tyres on the road!

        • CrushJelly on 24/02/2016 - 23:11
          +1

          @soaringphoenix:

          "6L V8"

          You honesty love showing off how big your e-penis is, don't you?

          Get off it.

  • Looking4Bargians on 19/02/2016 - 14:52
    +5

    All Taxi drivers are doing Taxi weekdays and Uber over the weekend.

    • SnoozeAndLose on 19/02/2016 - 14:53
      +2

      Are you sure with "ALL" no exception?

      • Looking4Bargians on 19/02/2016 - 14:54
        +5

        Edit : Most of them

  • Baysew on 19/02/2016 - 14:59
    +25

    According to my calculations.

    Even using your "assumptions" your calculations are flawed.

    You have deducted GST from income, but there is no calculation for offsetting GST on expenses.

    You have made a calculation for tax in the middle ? Tax would be calculated on income less expenses.

    Even if we accept your income figure of $7 per hour and add that to $3 tax you have assumed, that would be $10 per hour.

    $10 / hour x 40 hours per week x 50 weeks in a year = $20000 income per year.

    Tax on $20k per year = $342. Tax per hour = seventeen cents.

    • BartholemewH on 21/02/2016 - 15:59
      +2

      Exactly. A Flawed calculation from start to finish.

  • anthem29 on 19/02/2016 - 15:23
    +19

    Go away.

  • chinospot on 19/02/2016 - 15:40
    +27

    Should change your name to 13cabs!

  • gomertose on 19/02/2016 - 15:43
    +31

    Lol… Noone is forcing these people to become "poor" uber drivers.

    What you should have said was "Please dont use uber. We I dont want poor full time working people unemployed taxi drivers."

      • [Deactivated] on 20/02/2016 - 00:29
        +3

        so now people have two choices. Time>Money or Money>Time. Before UBERX there was only one choice. People are still free to decide what to drive and what to take.

        • howieyo on 23/02/2016 - 20:18

          It's great there is another option now. Before I was forced to deal with the horrible customer service from taxi drivers.

          You know what's bad? When you get turned down by a taxi driver to drive you somewhere or they take you to the wrong place and refuse to take you to the right one.

  • cmdwedge on 19/02/2016 - 16:26
    +16

    Saggy, do you own a cab?

    • Olokun on 19/02/2016 - 16:45
      +23

      Probably was rejected by uber

        • ozhunter on 19/02/2016 - 17:18
          +23

          No one said they earn $100/hour; what's wrong with you?

          Google only owns 6.8% in uber.

        • immortalbjr on 20/02/2016 - 11:59
          +32

          I liked the part where you completely didnt answer the question

        • Maglia Nera on 20/02/2016 - 18:05
          +3

          @immortalbjr:
          which means he/she OWNS a cab/taxi license plate

        • Koolbargain on 22/02/2016 - 15:31

          Although he did get one thing right. Taxis will be gone in about 10 years once driverless cars make it to Australia.

          lol $100 an hour.

        • GameChanger on 22/02/2016 - 15:40

          @krazed15: Drug dealing rides :)

        • Associatedche_97 @ Uber on 22/02/2016 - 17:53
          +11

          I did exactly this. I didn't want to do my job any more and I quit. Now I drive an uber. I work exactly when I want to and the money is actually better than my previous job even after all my expenses.

          Let me just start with I have an excellent rating (4.9 *)

          I don't give out water.
          I don't wash the car that often as I mostly drive as night and you can't see the dirt. So no one even notices it. This saves me time if it do it myself or money if I paid someone to do it.

          I would normally be getting the insurance required anyway. This has already paid off as I was in a not at fault accident ( I got rear ended) and the the repairs were easily over $7000 for a car not worth twice that much.

          I'm picky when I work. Last Saturday night I only worked 3 hours but each of those hours got me $60. So $180 in 3 hours.
          How does that compare to your 10
          Hours in a week example.

          If someone had a full time job and just did that one shift, you could easily add $150 ( after costs) to your weekly salary. Just from that one shift. What other job nets you $50 an hour with this flexibility.

          Keep in mind that this was Saturday night and during the week is not this busy, but having uber means this is now an option for both consumers and people like myself willing to give up my time and offer his service. It's win win.

          Please note that I strongly believe there is a place for taxis as the last thing I want is a monopoly. But taxis need to lift their game.
          When we see marketing for taxis, we don't see "look how great what we offer is, come use us" we see
          "Hey, hey hey! Be wary of those other driver types, they are cheaper than us and uhh… Yeah don't use them. Keep using the service you've been very unhappy with for years"

          I'm not sure what taxis need to do but I think they could focus on lifting their game, offering something that uber doesn't (I've thought about having tv in the back or maybe free wifi)

        • norimono on 22/02/2016 - 21:46
          +3

          Simple answer: yes or no

          Saggy, do you own a cab?

    • [Deactivated] on 19/02/2016 - 17:44
      +41

      from the way he speaks definitely is an indian taxi driver

      maybe upset for loss of income as the rest of them are,

      uber is the way forward. no more being ripped off by rude stinky cab drivers

    • Koolbargain on 22/02/2016 - 15:38
      +2

      Bro, he obviously does. His name is Patel for god's sake.

  • turbo77 on 19/02/2016 - 17:17
    +1

    wonder if i can uber with my motorized cyclo and save on cost lol

  • ozhunter on 19/02/2016 - 17:25
    +2

    This guy seems to be doing well for himself. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/230038

    It depends on a lot of factors; car, location, time that you drive, luck?

  • AssociatedFlying Ace @ Uber on 19/02/2016 - 18:02
    +24

    I'm an Uber driver and my expenses are nowhere near what is quoted above. I drive Uber as it was intended - as a bit of extra cash when I would otherwise be doing nothing, and it's been great for me. It's where people use driving for Uber as their main income where the problems start.

    • FutureTech on 19/02/2016 - 18:49
      +3

      Do you have to pay much more on insurance because it's now used for ride sharing purpose?

      • AssociatedFlying Ace @ Uber on 19/02/2016 - 19:07
        +1

        To be honest I haven't been driving for Uber for very long, so I haven't organised any extra insurance.

        • Ridiculous Panda on 19/02/2016 - 19:21
          +3

          Of course your expenses are not much then. Just pray you don't get in an accident while ubering mate or you'll be in big trouble.

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