Death of The Arcades?

Street Fighter V is the first Street Fighter series not going to be released in the arcades in its long glorious history. For many of the older generations, the Street Fighter cabinet is probably one of the must have cabinet in any arcades but SFV releasing straight to PC & console probably marks the death of the arcades.

For those living in Syd, in the 90's arcades would found in every major city and usually more than one and now you'll be lucky to find any. From memory, at its peak Parramatta had 4 arcades - Playland and Timezone next to each other opposite of the station, Galaxy World on ground level near the exit of Westfield and Intencity a 2 storey level arcade inside Westfield food court on level 5. In the CBD, there were about 5 arcades - 3 on George St cinema strip which includes a massive Timezone (not where the current is inside the cinema), a 2 storey Galaxy world and next to it a 2 storey called Play World or Fun Land along those lines. Further down Chinatown there was another Galaxy World inside Market City top level and a smaller one in the alley where all the foods are.

Seeing all of them closed down over the years is quite a sad sight, is this really the end of the arcades?

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  • +1

    It depends, having gone to Timezone Fremantle (WA) a few times, and taken my daughter there, it can be pretty busy! But it is on a main street, in a restaurant/night hotspot. But even given the popularity of consoles/pc gaming, hell even mobile gaming, it hasn't overly taken business away. They've reduced the store numbers yes, but at least for that store in particular, I certainly don't see it closing any time soon.

    • the introduction of PS1 killed the arcade.

  • in Australia, yes

    mainly due to the rise in other gaming options

    • home gaming ….xbox ps etc. the graphics keep getting better to the point where it was equal/better than the arcades
    • Lan joints - offers ability to fight/play against many friends…not just 1 or 2,3,4 max
    • expanding use of internet meant ability to play with/against people half way around the world..so endless supply of opponents
      which is important for something like street fighter….if you ended up beating everyone at the arcade you just end up playing the NPC…which well gets boring

    People just stopped going out for an "better" experience you can have a home

    on the business end, cost to run an arcade is mainly chewed up by the rent
    you cant really have one in a middle of no where it needs to be premium locations in order to even remotely have people come
    small space in sydney is about 2-3g a week?…you can calculate how many $1 games would need to be played to even break even for 1 week
    add this on top of cost of setup & maintenance/cost to acquire new games/wages/electricity/etc…

    the only thing i can see happening which would be promising is the rise of VR arcade (forgot what its called but you basically physically walk to make the characters walk)…fully immersive experience of which you cannot have at home (currently)

    • this is the VR thing i was talking about
      http://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/08/this-is-zero-latency-the-fu…

      • +1

        In the 90s they attempted VR at Intencity if any remembers where you could do virtual boxing, a nice article about the fall of Intencity.

        https://pastlivesofthenearfuture.com/tag/intencity/

        • BBC hardware
          Chandlers
          BRASHES

          blast from the past!

        • @humdingaling:
          Brashes - right on Mr. B!

        • They had a mech worrier type game as well. Played a lot of it and was cheap too.

          I recall a 3 foot tall statue of a timberwolf mech in a glass cabinet in the lobby area and thus the love of mech gaming was born.

      • Zero Latency is an awesome experience. I really can't wait to go again!! It is really buggy but that just added to the chaos of the experience. Everyone gamer should try it once.

  • SFV not released in arcades, was probably to increase sales on the consoles/PC.

    death of the arcades? that was already happening 20 years ago. it's sad but a something you have to accept.

    I really wished they had these are the local arcades:

    http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-battle-pod-blasts-int…

    • +1

      In the past they would release arcade version first and several months later they would release console version so I don't really see any conflicts there. For me after I've played in the arcades, I would want to buy a copy and play it at home so no loss to Capcom. Got a sus feeling Capcom got rid of the Arcade mode in SFV to prevent arcade owners hooking a PS4 to a cabinet and making unofficial SFV arcades.

      • thought they were going to release an update with arcade mode?
        edit: sorry it was story mode.

  • +1

    Very fond memories down at the local bowling alley playing arcade machines between turns to score some tickets for prizes. They're still there and loads of fun. I still make the occasional visit to Timezone and it's great. Too bad they've cut down in the stores.

    One time in Kuala Lumpur I went to a shopping centre that had 2 levels of arcade machines and it was absolutely packed. I can't see it dying in Asia anytime soon.

    • +1

      There's a massive Timezone on the Gold Coast :)

      • Yup Surfers Paradise. I went there at least 10 years ago and it was great. I wish Vic was the same.

        • Vic has Galactic Circus, whilst not as good as it was 15 years ago, it's still decent sized and last time I checked they dropped prices back to $1 instead of those dumb $1.1, $2.20 prices.

  • geez, i remember arcades when space invaders first came out and it was the bee's knees. brings back fond memories.

  • +2

    From memory, at its peak Parramatta had 4 arcades - Playland and Timezone next to each other opposite of the station, Galaxy World on ground level near the exit of Westfield and Intencity a 2 storey level arcade inside Westfield food court on level 5.

    I remember the two that were opposite the train station and in the early '70s there used to be another one in Parramatta as well - along Church Street near the ATO, opposite Westfield, can't remember what it was called though.

    • Now they have none in Parramatta :(

    • Yeah, Parra in the 80s had Orbit Leisure Centre upstairs on Church St near Macquarie St. Big space, many cocktail cabinets. They moved to where Timezone was, and they had membership at one time that gave you entry to unlimited games events. Then I think it became Timezone in the 90s? There was also a lone arcade up the hill on Church St past Westfield.

      I'd drop in to go an "arcade crawl" after school, uni, work (yes, a few years and many hundreds/thousands of dollars spent in arcades!) I remember many an hour on R-Type, Ninja Spirit, Sinistar, Xybots, Smash TV…

  • +3

    Ah yes, the excitement of exchanging a dollar for a bunch of 20 cent coins and returning back to the waft of heated electronics on that Double Dragon machine.

    • +1

      The remaining arcades nowadays most of them use the electronic top up cards where they can be charge the little extra - so games will be $1.20 or $2.40 which they couldn't do with traditional coin operated machines without being a nuisance to the gamers

  • +1

    I was never allowed to go to my local arcade as it became the hotspot for heroin dealing in the 90s.

  • +1

    Market City still has an awesome arcade, City Amusements. Also has laser tag and indoor bumper cars. And their claw games are more like the Japanese machines where you can actually win toys without spending $100.

    AMF Bowling Centres also have decent arcade machines. They get new ones several times a year and have some great retro style and new ones plus some of the greats (Time Crisis, DDR).

    But yeah, it's nothing like it used to be with Timezone back in the day. I remember getting up early on a Saturday so a mate and I could go to their $8 for unlimited games for 2 hours and we'd hoard the X Men Vs Street Fighter games.

    Next gen and online gaming just killed the market for the most part.

  • I can think of 2 main reasons for the fall of Arcades in Australia is:

    1. Emulators released in the mid 90s allowed you to download the game and play it on your PC for free.

    2. PC games got better and more addictive with the rise of FPS or RTS which wasn't available in the arcades.

    • +2

      Both those reasons still apply in Japan and arcades are huge over there.

      Not saying you're wrong, it's just odd that in some Asian cultures they're still thriving.

      • I don't think games like Call of Duty is that big in Japan, it's Tekken and Street Fighter that rule Japan and these are the type of games perfectly suited for Arcades.

        FPS and RTS games has caused people to organise LAN parties and internet cafes offer LAN services too. This is at the expense of arcades parlors.

      • +1

        I think arcade gaming culture in Japan (or in Asia) generally is very strong.

        The same cannot be said about Australia although I am sure in USA it is relatively strong too.

        Imagine…

        We don't have the Gundam game like in Japan where you actually enter a Gundam POD as if you're inside the robot
        We don't have Sangokushi Taisen like in Singapore where that game is popular as sex (maybe not but you know what I mean) and they can play online
        We don't have Pachinko machine lol. The best we have is Monopoly token.
        and certainly we don't have the kind of ticket machines that Japan may have…. they have really interesting ticket machines

        As a DDR fan, I am still waiting when Aus will get that DDR 2016 machine at Galactic Circus (VIC).

      • TL:DR If you think Japanese arcades are going strong, think again. They have been closing down yr after yr just like Australia.

        now the long version.
        Cost of an arcade operation in Japan has been raising as well, raise of GST to 5% made a massive impact and number of arcade has been declining just as Australia.

        Just like PC game, Arcade Game manufactures has been fighting with cost of DRM, new systems and development of games that are getting more complex and bigger (as in development size, not the machine size)

        Size of the machines also being problem, early 90s I remember most machines were fighting games (such as SF2) or shooting games, and platform arcade games. These days, its mixture of large machines like gun/rail shooters, music/dance games, toy cranes, driving games and so on. While there are always are demand for smaller machines, you would agree that the diversity of machines are nothing like what we've seen in 80-90s.

        Now this doesnt necessary applies to the arcades in australia as many games are just remain in JPN mode, and versions may be outdated. (no one would care as long as it works), in Japan machines are now networked, and many games manufacture will ask you to update/force to update for the new versions. This isnt free, if you dont do it, games will be outdated and as locally developed games, customers would know if their fav game has been updated to a newer version.

        If you're the owner of the arcade, you need to decide if you're going to pay for the version up, or throw them out to 2nd hand market (which may end up overseas like Australia)

        Just like Australia, Japanese Arcades' numbers are reducing as well.
        (one of the graph showing the number)
        http://i0.wp.com/www.port24.co.jp/main/wp-content/uploads/20…

        I think the biggest competitor isnt MAME or PCs, its the smart phones, even 10 yr olds are walking on the street with a smart phone, mobile games were very small niche market in the past, but now its eating pies from other game markets.
        I still goto Timezone at GC and pay $50 for two hrs of unlimited games for two kids. Problem is they cant decide what to play and just end up playing may be 10-15 games, but they have heaps of fun. Otherwise I would "NEVER" go there and pay per game.

        I miss the time when I piled up the coins and keep continue to finish the game. :P

        • Couple of years back I went to Akihabara the dream city of any arcade lovers where you'll find a multi-storeys arcade in just about every corner. Have to say was disappointed when I was there, was expecting a lot of games & machines which were never released in Aus. but just came across the usual ones like shooters, Initial D, Tekken & SF IV.

          Noticed a lot of them now have switched to the prize reward games, guess they can't be replaced by smartphones or made redundant as such?

        • Consumption Tax in Japan went up to 8% (from 5%) 2 years ago, April 2014. Now there is an impending increase to 10%

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Japan

  • There's probably a market for a retro arcade (super session style, not per play) - but knowing how people used to beat the crap out of the machines they probably wouldn't be economic once repairs are factored in.

    The one machine that I reckon is worth it these days is buck hunter.

  • Arcades died long ago

  • In Melbourne there's a handful of arcade bars that have all the old games still - my favourite is Bartronica in Flinders Lane.

    • I just checked out their facebook page and it looks pretty cool! How big is the place (how many machines) and what are the prices like?

      • +1

        It's a nice size, you're not all squished in. I can't recall the price of the machines but they do have SNES and a couple of other consoles set up which are free. If you message them on FB to ask about the price I'm sure they'd respond, they're quite friendly :)

  • Pretty sure arcades died about a decade or two ago?

  • I missed arcades, used to be able to kill time if I arrived somewhere early… now it's all sitting at a coffee joint playing with yourself (by that I mean phone =P).

    Are you sure they are not bringing it to arcades worldwide or are they just not offering them for Aus? I know arcades are still quite big in Asian countries and I've heard they still have them in the states, not bringing them out worldwide isn't very ideal for them IMO.

    • Not sure about other Asian countries, but Hong Kong has closed down majority of its arcades +50% in the past 5 years. The skyrocketting rents in the HK doesn't help either, imagine how many coins they would need just to pay its rent let alone making a profit.

      • Are you talking about the jumpin gym USA thing or the street shops with street fighter?

        I know the jumping gym stuff are disappearing but I haven't noticed the street shops disappearing. They just look heaps shady though.

  • Advancements in technology has been a gift and a curse. It's made gaming cheaper, more accessible and more convenient for consumers. Popularity of online multiplayer and the ability for us play almost any game we want at request (digitally) and from the comforts of our homes probably hasn't helped the cause either.

    I too miss the old arcade centres. I can still remember where most the Timezones were around the CBD (in Melbourne) and often reminisce on the rare occasion when I walk past one of these location. I always find myself a little shocked that they've been replaced by something completely different. My favorite one was the one located downstairs on Flinders Street. I used to love how the sounds from all the machines combined would get louder as you walked down. (For anybody unfamiliar, this is what you used to hear when you walked in a busy arcade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNVdREXnOLM)

    Will need to check out Bartronica at some point. Any other recommendations for those of us in Melbourne?

  • I unfortunately came in on the tail end of the arcade reign in the 90s. I got an N64 just after it came out, and that was my first foray into hardcore gaming. What I loved playing at arcade, though, were the things that you couldn't get at home - typically cabinets with big expensive interfaces like Daytona, Time Crisis / House of the Dead etc. My mate hired out a whole small Timezone for his 10th birthday for a couple of hours. That is still, to this day, the best damn party I've ever been to.

    I had a whale of a time in arcades in Japan last year. The Sega Joypolis in Odaiba was out of this world. Damn, it's even great fun just watching Japanese people play haha.

  • Penrith panthers club has a kids zone which isnt too bad and thwy have some half price days but yeh brings back thw good old memories of playland days in fairfield.

    • +1

      Ah yes, that was near the Fairfield station right? Playland Parramatta used to give out vouchers for buy 1 and get 1 game free. Good days

      • Originally it was in neta city on the outside smart st then moved to oposite the train station.

        I was a member and also had tokens for the buy one get one free and also happy hour on sundays too.

  • I miss Japan's rythm game machines. Played the heck out of mai mai and chunithm when I went earlier this year. …spent around half my time during Kyoto's nights in the arcades actually now that I think about it. Apart from taiko, there's nothing really like it in Sydney :(

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