Hi All,
Wanted some opinions on what's a better sports car
Nope…911 rules
Also the guy that says keyless entry cars are stupid
Excuse me while I take his opinion, and flush it down the toilet :)
Where did he say that?
Pretty sure he knows more about cars than most professionals.
Saw it in the suggested vids from him on the side.
Why does he know more? It's just an opinion. Anyone can have an opinion, it's the beautiful thing about them. Just need to pick and choose what you read/listen to. No single opinion is completely unbiased.
You should watch that video too. It's about keyless ignition. NOT keyless entry. And he makes a compelling case about why it's planned obsolesce to fleece people of $500-1500 when their keyless ignition remote dies.
He works on Mercedes professionally and clearly has decades of experience working on cars professionally. Do you?
He has also won an Emmy for sharing his automotive knowledge on TV.
Sigh
No worries, believe what you want, I'm not getting into this argument. Clearly you love him and will take whatever he says as gospel.
Some of us like to form our own opinions.
@inherentchoice: I've watched Scotty for years. He has a lot of common sense and reveals a lot of trade secrets, which is why some dealers don't like him. Wish I could find a mechanic like him in Aus.
is your Porche like a Porsche? or a Chinese rip-off?
lol - i really should spell it correctly! it'll be real :)
it's difficult to type in the bad light of the porch
i cant understand how someone can even consider a porsche when they cant even spell it
do you not have google where you are?
were does www.porche.com go to?
What about a Porsche boxter? They are giving those things away these days. Have you considered a Lexus ISF? It looks like you're after something sporty, but luxurious. These cars are so different, strangest comparison you have narrowed it down to. I'd go with the Porsche. Good luck and pics when you buy it :D
Boxter is a mid-engine, and i've heard a bit heavy on the maintainence. I'll check out the ISF - haven't looked at that.
Yup i was joking about the boxter, terrible car. The ISF is bloody amazing, there's some for a tic under $40k, so price might be an issue under the current budget.
The ISF looks pretty cool - but it's a sedan and an 8 cyl - not what i had in mind.
Depends what color the Porshe is.
That Merc is a waste of money.
Just need to a be a bit careful with the early 996s with the 3.4L - cylinder liners is the most well known flaw, IMS (I think this affected boxsters more), things like rear main/diff seals also were a bit of an issue. Get it checked.
Early/(all) 996s are a bit glossed over by porsche diehards because of the whole watercooling thing, which is why a 993 is way more expensive than a 996; my electrician just bought a '77 which cost more than a 996 - but is probably a better investment. But if you're buying it to drive rather than restore, the 996 is a relative bargain.
Think you need to go drive an E250 before calling it a sports car :) For this price bracket, if you're seriously purchasing, go test drive a few cars before comparing them on paper. I'd suggest trying the best E46 M3 you can find (manual of course), Boxster S, Cayman S. If you just want grunt and auto, look at a CLK55 , even the earlier cls55 aren't far off 40K now.
Yeah I"ll be driving it to work - I'm not a big fan of keeping a car in a garage.
The M3 would be a good car - but I've had an E46 323i, so keen to try a different brand. I'll research the CLK/CLS you have suggested.
Very interesting combination of cars to choose. Commodore SS and VW Beetle needs to be added to make the picture complete;)
None of them, get a Lexus IS250 :)
After you've driven a Porsche for a while, nothing else comes close.
A 928. Cheap because the 911 shape is the one everyone seems to want, heavy but insanely powerful. Built like a tank. Engine in the front where it's supposed to be. Drove one as a daily commuter for years.
Favourite party trick was setting off car alarms in car parks with the rumble from the 5 litre V8.
Had a Porsche in the past - maintenance far too expensive. Now own an old Mercedes sports who runs like a dream, a Jaguar XJ 308 V8 ( transported over to Perth from Victoria ) previous & only owner was the No.1 in the Melbourne Jaguar club - beautiful car that really makes a statement & causes many comments & is much loved by us. For our everyday cars - I have a 2002 Subaru Outback station wagon H6 - so reliable ( wish I hadn't said that!) & Hubby has his tried & true 1995 Toyota Land Cruiser 80's series Turbo Diesel used purely for work & he loves it to bits - refuses to trade in & upgrade.
Going back to the original question, from experience We would never buy another Porsche The Mercedes is far classier whereas a Porsche is now deemed as a little crass & common.
Your choice quality or vroom, vroom engine noise with a car that you will permanently spend out thousands of dollars on in maintenance.
Thanks for that. Was it a 911? What kms and how was the car when you had it? By too expensive how much are you talking - in $ and % of car cost.
No - it was a 927 - would never go near a 911 - your wallet is open before you've even unlocked it !!
Have to say it was a beautiful looking car , sun roof, lovely black & white chequered interior & drove like a dream - in between maintenance - also quite economical, which did surprise us. However, it was a car that was wanted at the time - now we have moved on to cars with class - Mercedes & Jaguar have THE name & longetivity that cars should have.
We purchased the Porsche for 6000 pounds in 1985 & sold it 2 years later ( prior to emigrating to Aus. ) for the same price. Unfortunately the people who bought it, rolled it on the motorway 1 month later with their 2 kids in the tiny back seat -don't know the outcome . Terrible end for all , including the car we suspect.
We do have photos of it ( unfortunately with me in them! ) but not sure how to post them on the site.
Assume you mean a 928? The 927 was a special engine for the 917 which was a Can-Am/LeMans racing car. Very jealous if that's what you had though…. ;-)
I had a lot of fun with my 928, class or not. Initially the maintenance costs were appalling, but then again I was taking it to the local Porsche distributors who charged an arm & a leg…. didn't worry me at the time though as it was all coming out of pre-tax salary and I was single, no kids, no mortgage etc etc etc…. Later after I bought out the lease I found a local mechanic who was really good (frankly did a better job than the 'professionals') and the cost of services etc dropped to around the same as my commodore costs are now.
Prior to getting the car I never thought of buying a Porsche - thought they were more show than go. Had driven some and they were ok…. small, nimble, but on the edge very very hard to handle. I've seen really skilled drivers throw them around the track, and frankly it scares the willies off me. The newer ones are definitely better, but the older models I'd never push to the limit. Was hooked once I drove the 928 though. Had it for maybe ten years and used it as a daily commuter (80km each day) as well as numerous road trips. Really ate up the roads and - once you learned how to drive it - could really throw it around corners. Did break down a couple of times, but then again I did drive it a lot and was not gentle. The mechanics at the dealers were amazed one day when I came in and they found I'd managed to break the front sway bar after some exuberant twisty road driving. When you check out the used versions, most have 200 or 300k on them or even more because people actually use them. Like I said before, built like a truck and great to drive. I might never get another one, but I certainly never regretted buying it.
Go check out Porsche parts and servicing costs, also many Porsche parts are genuine only no cheap alternatives.
I owned an 7 year old Porsche a while back, awesome car, and then things went wrong with it. $2000 for new clutch, 2 engine mounts at $400 each, engine vibration problem another $2000 and the list went on.
Yes I did my research on sourcing parts and finding a reputable mechanic. So I got best bang for buck.
The Porsche was bloody lovely and bloody expensive, and it was only 7 years old when I bought it. Your Porsche will be 17 years old, things WILL go wrong with it. Get onto Porsche forums and research what is likely to go wrong with your car and what it will cost to fix + normal maintenance costs, then after you have cried a little because your dream has been shattered Buy a fast motorbike and an SUV instead :-)
I have never owned a merc but would love a CLK45 AMG.
I'm getting an auto - so hopefully no clutch issues..
but i'd say all german cars would have expensive parts like this? e.g. merc, bmw.
I've heard there are lots of after market parts for Porche because people do racing?
Sorry - it was almost 28 years ago that we sold it. Should I have known the outcome from the demise of the family & the car because of their stupidity of the power the car could perform at & lack of control - especially with 2 young children in the tiny back seat , I would have kept it & brought it to Australia. Instead, we sold it to them & then learnt the results. We then purchased a MGBGT which we did bring with us.
The Porsche was a 924 - sorry about that, but still feel so bad & almost responsible for what happened once they owned it.
You can't blame yourself for what happened. I'm looking at the 996, which has most of the handling issues ironed out.
is the Mercedes really a sports car?