Incredible return fares to Europe with Air China. Travel is for May-June. These prices are for payments made using a Visa debit card. A surcharge may apply if paying with a credit card. Safe travels :)
Dep. 16/May Ret. 15/Jun $774
Dep. 28/May Ret. 22/Jun $774
Dep. 29/May Ret. 15/Jun $830
Dep. 23/May Ret. 15/Jun $830
Dep. 23/May Ret. 22/Jun $830
Dep. 16/May Ret. 15/Jun $805
Dep. 16/May Ret. 15/Jun $877
Dep. 23/May Ret. 15/Jun $877
Dep. 23/May Ret. 22/Jun $877
Hotel room with a stranger aye? Could be positive depending on how open you are ;)
Air China is a bit of a lottery.🎎🎏🗿🔮
how did u put those emoji's?
My flight with Air China was awesome. I would have paid extra to share a hotel room with a stranger. Especially if I got to see them in their underpants.
I've flown business with Air China before. The seats were big but that was it, it felt very industrial. At least the travel kit was Ferragamo!
what… ferragamo polyester socks, sleeping mask and toothbrush?
Just hope their local passengers don't try to open the door mid-flight! Or get their children to poo in the aisle! Or talk and yell and carry on loudly as if they're back in their village! Or keep moving and changing seats instead of staying put in their allocated seat, especially when everyone else is sleeping! Oh would you put up with this crap just to save a few bucks?
Great story! How's this a worst airline?
Amazing prices! Long layovers in Beijing on SYD-CDG and back though.
I like to view long layovers as positive though. You get a few hours to spend in a city that you would never otherwise spent time in.
Great prices, be wary of the lay over times - for me it wasnt worth the time wasted (travelling with elderly mum)
Fair few options for Europe at the moment - I went Thai airways and only have a tiny layover for $1100 (had to book only two weeks out from trip) safe travels all!
What site did you use mate? I'm looking to book a flight to Europe and haven't done so since the bestflights days. Is there an alternative site these days?
Skyscanner or Google Flights?
hipmunk as well as skyscanner ect
Google Flights is the best flight search site IMO. Skyscanner is okay except they show prices from third parties, some of which are pretty questionable. Google Flights only ever shows prices from sellers you can trust (either directly through the airline, or through a trusted site like Expedia)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-356944…
To be fair, it happened on their domestic flights.
Also, it's considered normal in China to do this. Seen it happen on a bus, myself.
Was this in the main cities?
This was in Beijing. It's very common to see kids urinating on the side of the street. Thankfully, the only adults that do this are taxi drivers (but I've also seen taxi drivers do this in Australia).
@tomkun01:
I remember walking through a department store in Guangzhou a few years ago and saw a mother holding her 4-5 year old son over a rubbish bin with his pants down so he could take a dump! The Chinese have never ceased to amaze me…
But I still love China nevertheless! =)
Hah! I was in Sydney on George St last year and I saw a Chinese father did the same thing over a rubbish bin!They're here already!
It's considered normal? you want to generalise but what about indians?
Yes, to the point where baby clothes sold in china have a big hole for no. 1 and no. 2. It was hard for me to find cheap baby clothes there that didn't include this feature
@tomkun01: You must be making things up. You have all this hate but developing countries are exactly that, they are still developing. Any complaints for india or those countries?
@bargainist: Indians have never claimed to be cleanest people and the way their economy is structured doesn't allow for policy to flow easily. Whereas Chinese people always look down upon India, when in reality their backyard isn't clean at all.
I thought the baby clothes was a joke, but it seems to be a thing! Not even in India is that encouraged.
@bargainist: Talking about failing high school, it is 'You must have failed high school', not 'you must of failed high school'.
@GameChanger: Sadly the baby clothes thing isn't a joke. I lived there before and wondered by all the toddlers walking around with split pants. You'll often stumble upon human excrement on the side of the road.
@snivy: Wow I'm genuinely shocked, the Chinese try to project this image they're super clean. I'm remember seen some propaganda they showed their citizens how dirty India is but its evident they have issues.
Would you see human excrement in the business streets in CBD?
@GameChanger: I'm quite amazed by all the photos I've seen too. The ones I took while I was there definitely say the opposite.
I once saw a mother helping her son doing the no. 2 in front of Lamborghini dealer, I thought that was funny. But families with little kids don't usually go around the CBD area, they like going to public parks.
@snivy: What other issues did you notice that took you by shock?
haha that's pretty funny I must admit!
@GameChanger: It's common for people to spit in public, and they make that horrible noises with their throat - granted it's mostly the elderly that does this.
You'll also see people walking around with radio playing loud music without care in the world.
Getting pushed and shoved is common, same thing with getting cut in line.
The worst thing is the pollution though, it looks like fog, until you breathe in and realise it stings your lungs. Sadly this is the reason why I finally left.
Too many too list.
@snivy: Wow now I can understand why they're purchasing property here, must be like paradise for them. Albeit they're also trying to hide their money xD
Your post has defs given me a different prospective.
@GameChanger: definitely, they can't build/own a house there unless they live in rural areas, in the city they can only live in apartments, which they can't own but rent from the government for 70 or 90 years, I can't remember. I heard they can build houses illegally in some areas and have them for 8-10 years before the officials finally notice - dunno if it's true,
So yeah, life sucks there. :(
I saw a toddler with hole on the back on a plane London to Sydney with China Eastern. I cant recall the whole thing (probably 15 years ago) but I was shocked about the "hole"
@snivy: Absolutely correct, I've been to various parts and witnessed all this. Also I have friends who live there cos of work (otherwise they'd prefer not to be there!). And when they visited in Oz recently, they keep getting text messages from the Chinese government reminding them "how to behave properly" when overseas!!! So yes they know about this problem and how they are perceived by the rest of the world.
That is filthy. Doesn't surprise me.
Great prices, but its Air China which is a big no for me.
You'll need a holiday after flying with Air China.
Eeek, 14 to 16 hour layovers in China each way….
There are now free transit visas available in China. 16 hours means you'd have enough time to get a short rest and eat some of the best food in the world on your way to Europe. Perhaps see some relics from the old world, too.
Not sure if you are being serious or not?
A tourist visa cost me $100 last time i visited. I don't see why its a negative
Best food in the world are you serious? Whatever you're into man.
Honestly I embrace multicultural society and love it but this stuff makes me sick
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/586115/Sick-pictures-of-…
Some of the best food. Of course, that is subjective and also dictated by your choice of restaurant. I just came back from Bangkok, eating at all tiers of restaurants, and none of them impressed me because I just kept comparing them to fantastic meals I've had in China. Think about the best Asian meal you've had in Australia. High quality Chinese cuisine makes our restaurants seem really lackluster.
They don't really eat dog in Beijing, that's more of a Southern China thing.
Also, care to elaborate why eating dog is so much worse than eating pig, cow or rabbit?
Watch "Earthlings" and see what our own society does before you judge another.
They're all terrible and I don't eat any, but read the article properly about how they are slaughtered though before you start some ethical debate. Beaten to death. This is because the adrenaline from their fear makes the meat more tender. If anyone can defend that then be my guest.
@MrTweek:
Ah on the same page then. I guess there's cruelty and there's behaviours bordering on psychopathic.
This is because the adrenaline from their fear makes the meat more tender
I disagree with this statement along with many others on that OTT propaganda movie earthlings.
I've regrettably eaten Pinikpikan in the Philippines and i tell you it's anything but tender. But nevertheless it's still thought of as a delicacy in some regions.
Kill it, cook it, eat it is a much better representation on how the majority of meat is slaughtered. And if any meat eater is unable to watch that, then maybe they should consider the vegetarian lifestyle.
But all this debate i feel is a product of our sheltered lifestyle that is so common in 1st world countries. With all our meat neatly wrapped in cling film sitting in supermarket fridges while the process of how it got there is out of sight and therefore out of mind.
@shkippy: +1 For that series. I feel the same way.
I eat meat knowing that it was a living breathing animal.
I would not eat an animal capable of socialisation with humans.
@tomkun01: I don't think Cows or Chickens are very sociable, in my opinion anyway. Capable of enjoying being petted at most.
Pigs, I wouldn't eat because they are quite intelligent and can be sociable with humans as a pet if given the opportunity.
You're just propagating ignorance by using one example to generalise an entire population.
@The Land of Smeg: fascinating. It's so interesting how people's opinions on food and ethics varies so widely. I guess that freedom of opinion is limited to secular societies, though.
@tomkun01: Exactly that, as long as it doesn't cause extraordinary suffering to animals I'm not going to go a crusade against pig eaters, and I do respect vegetarians for their ethical stance. Veganism (for the purposes of not being cruel to animals) I think is a bit too extreme for my liking.
Live Export is just wrong. There is no practical reason why cows can't be humanely slaughtered onshore to the standards required of the overseas market (Halal, etc.) and then shipped out in a higher density than even Live Export can do.
I don't think that a cow or chicken's wife is completely worthless, it's worth what the market rate is for a cow or chicken, as long as it's done as humanely as it is possible to kill a living thing and we respect where the meat came from, I can accept that.
@The Land of Smeg: watch "Earthlings" and then do your own research - not listen to animal ag campaigns - on "humane slaughter"
@The Land of Smeg: I see it like this: will the 'humane' slaughter of animals change our future? Now, unless you believe in 'karma' or anything supernatural, the answer is 'no'. It's entirely about making people feel better about eating dead animals (which I have no qualms about because I have been conditioned to eat all kinds of animals and plants).
@thevofa: I watch with my own eyes ("Kill it, Cook it, Eat it" is one) and make my own such choices. I don't need any ag campaign.
@tomkun01 Yes you are right, it does make me feel better. And I will feel even better when we have Lab-grown meat.
@The Land of Smeg: watch earthlings for a non-glamourised approach. It's only a bit over an hour long - why not give it a go - at least it's another perspective, it shows you what you pay for, and if you're truly comfortable with killing other animals it should come with little emotional cost.
@thevofa:
Earthlings is a sensationalised, fact skewing, biased propaganda video. Videos like that are the reason some people are scared of vaccinating their children.
Watching a balanced show like kill it, cook it, eat it is a much better approach which represents the majority of the meat industry.
@shkippy: earthlings has nothing to do with vaccines.
Please provide a single reference to something in earthlings that is not true or sensationalised. Earthlings is composed only of actual footage with some descriptive narration - there is no opinion presented whatsoever. There is no call to stop /reduce animal exploitation. It is not prescriptive at all.
@thevofa:
I didn't say it had anything to do with vaccines… Duh!
https://hojunester.wordpress.com/2012/10/25/review-of-docume…
After a quick search there are many reviews like that.
@shkippy: I only buy meat killed to a certain humane specification that I'm happy with (actually one of the most expensive meat for this reason) so watching how dodgy abattoirs operate (presumably to make the meat as cheap as possible, and also because they just don't care) is not really applicable to me.
@The Land of Smeg: care to share these specs?
Do you condone castration? Tail docking? Branding? Ear notching? Tooth extraction / clipping? Seperation of child from mother? Mulesing? Forced insemination? Masturbating bulls? Killing dairy calves with a hammer? Maceration of male chicks?
Please tell me more about humane exploitation and where I can find it because I've not actually seen it yet.
@The Land of Smeg: c'mon, show me the deets and if they stack up I'll flush my agenda and join yours. Else I can only think you've got nothing.
@thevofa: your opinions are obviously too strong to be able to change your mind. I'm not even wanting to change your mind even if it was open because my opinions are my own only
@The Land of Smeg: mate, I'm welcoming you to advance a case and you tell me my opinions are too strong?
After telling everyone how strict your ethics are you have a chance to school not just me but any reader here - most of which are happy munching on the corpses of the most abused animals - on how to humanely exploit animals yet you'd rather keep it to yourself?
@thevofa: I don't want to change your opinion though and I respect that you have your own. Just because you like to force your views onto others doesn't mean that others want to do the same. At the end of the day I will enjoy eating meat and you will enjoy eating vegetables.
@The Land of Smeg: so you would rather animals suffer in "non-humane" facilities than just let me and others know where this humane source is?
@The Land of Smeg: if for nothing else, just provide some info so we know for the future that your comments are reliable and worth any consideration.
Air China … uhmmm … no thanks
Awesome. Thanks for sharing!
Paying a low price for a low-quality product isn't a bargain, it's normal. Now if it was this sort of price for a good airline (like say, Singapore or Etihad or AirNZ) then it'd be a bargain.
$774 to Europe is still a bargain. Even Air China normally charges at least $1200.
$774 is about the price you'd pay from Melbourne to Broome.
Also, I don't see how Etihad is better than Air China. I flew both of them long distance and couldn't tell much difference in quality.
I think you're been overly generous if you think Air China is equivalent to Etihad.
100% agreed, until recently i worked in the flight department for large online travel company, in no way is $774 considered a normal price. $1000-$1200 was around the standard for cheap Euro flights eg, Royal Brunei & Vietnam Airlines etc.
Only other price that was as cheap as this was the Thai Airways Paris return for $700 a year or so ago.
Etihad is of far better quality then Air China though i must say.
I think i will keep paying the premium to not fly one of these shit mainland chinese airlines
Sounds like you're a Chinese just not from mainland?
Im an aussie mutt with some chinese descent from one of the colonies generations ago.
You definitely sound like a mutt.
Seems like a lot of negative comments here about Air China. Am I better off just swimming to Europe instead?
No, people are overreacting and assuming everything out of China is poor quality. Don't expect Emirates quality for AirAsia prices, but it's also just not that bad
You'll find many people are reacting to their experiences flying Air China. I have done ~10 sectors with them. They are horrible!
Honestly my experiences (international recently, and domestic in China a few years ago, ~6 sectors total but hey who's counting) have been fine. I agree Air China isn't great, but it's fine. No worse than any of the budget airlines that regularly make the front page of Ozbargain (Cebu Pacific, Jetstar, AirAsia, Tiger etc) and don't seem to cop the same flak.
Also… you get what you pay for, this price to Europe would be great if you were flying in a rusty tin can. But hey, minds can differ.
Air China was the worst airline i've taken.. They cancelled my flight from Beijing and had to accommodate with a stranger or else I had to pay for fee to stay in temp hotel when they rescheduled next flight the next morning.