Which country would you relocate to?

[Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 08:07
Last edited 18/05/2016 - 21:41

I'm in my early 20s and single.
I can relocate anywhere for the next few years for fun/life/work experience and am back and forth between where. I thought I was certain but am now unsure.

Which country would you choose if you were me? My desired work industry is irrelevant.
Assume no visa restrictions.

Please be specific - eg Asia or Europe is not so helpful.

EDIT - You MUST leave Australia.

Thanks.

EDIT 2 - thank you everyone. I have picked my location. Western Europe staring in Londonnnnnnnn. Closing the thread now :)

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      • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 20:48
        +3

        If that's the case then London it is…

        • shadowarrior on 15/05/2016 - 01:51
          +6

          or Melbourne :P
          When I lived in Melbourne, woke up to a sunny Saturday. Put my gear on and went out for a motorbike ride towards the Yarra ranges. Half way through it started raining cats and dogs :\

        • moooooooo on 15/05/2016 - 10:30
          +4

          @shadowarrior: Could have been worse - it might have started hailing taxis.

      • outlander on 15/05/2016 - 14:20

        Any excuse for change of costume aye? I can respect that.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/05/2016 - 14:34
          +1

          Any reason to strip down to shorts :) It was 9°C this morning and now it's a balmy 19°C. Almost tempted to go for a swim.

        • outlander on 15/05/2016 - 14:59

          @Jar Jar Binks: I LIKE SHORTS! THEY'RE COMFY AND EASY TO WEAR!

          Sportsdirect?

        • [Deactivated] on 15/05/2016 - 18:02
          +1

          @outlander:

          Sportsdirect

          Is that your way of trying to find out if I'm Wiki? o.O

        • outlander on 15/05/2016 - 19:40

          @Jar Jar Binks:
          You'd make an excellent detective J. All you need is a magnifying glass and pipe.

          sportsdirect had a sale on here last year, was wondering if thats the shorts your talking about.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/05/2016 - 21:01

          @outlander: Wiki is too busy packing and stuff, to have time for ozbargain. I'll let her know you said "hi":)

          My shorts were a Father's Day present from the kids. It well have been from that sale you mentioned.

        • outlander on 15/05/2016 - 21:30

          @Jar Jar Binks:

          No don't do that, if she's packing I don't want to disturb her. Just tell her, "mooky shnookshnoook" She'll know what that means.

          As to the shorts, probably not. These were slazenger football shorts, they were like a dollar so I bought a whole bunch. Probably more than I needed, but then again, they were a dollar. They fall apart pretty quick, unlike yours, which will probably last years because they're infused with love.. and mucus. But its the love thats doing the heavy lifting, trust me on that. Mucus is shit as a textile component.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/05/2016 - 22:40

          @outlander: Hey! Be nice to my hubby. On second thoughts, don't. You're funnier when you're sarcastic and he's a big boy - he can take it 😜

          So what have you been up to, other than lazing around in your slazenger shorts? Hope you had a good weekend ☺️ I did.

          Bonne nuit,
          Wiki

          P.s. Have you seen The montage of heck?

        • outlander on 15/05/2016 - 23:50

          @Jar Jar Binks:

          Well, lets see. My neighbour was mowing the lawn at like 11 in the freakin morning yesterday, so I got up today at 5am to mow my lawns to teach him a lesson. Then I made angry cat sounds for a bit, like when cats fight, but my throat started to get sore and there wasn't any point anyway as nobody could hear me over the mower (which was still going) so I came inside and made a fresh glass of citrus free lemonade. While I was drinking that and looking up at my roof, pondering how much rope I'd need to hang myself, as I do everyday, I got a call from my friend Bob, who told me my bathroom tiles where looking rather dirty and I needed to clean them. This was peculiar, not just because I'd only just cleaned those tiles a week ago, but because Bob is 85yr old veteran with partial blindness in both eyes and lives in an adelaide nursing home.
          But, far be it from me to question a friend, and as it happened when I checked on the bathroom tiles they were in quite a sorry state. So I ended up spending the next couple of hours giving them a good scrub.

          I was quite tired from that (5am starts are brutal) so I had a bit of a nap. Aldi was having a sale on snow gear, and I heard people were worried about them running out of the uncommon sizes, so I felt compelled to go down there and buy up all the mediums and larges jackets and pants I could find. It was really hard, partially because they're big and puffy, but mostly because the damn people wouldn't let go of them. I had to threaten to 'get them' just so they would let go, and then of course nobody offered to help me carry them at all. I tell you, this country is really going down the toilet, there's just no respect.
          Outside there was guy walking along the sidewalk tapping this horrible beat with his stick. It was so horrible, it was driving me crazy, so I kicked it onto the road and yelled at him to 'find a new rhythm stick old man', because he was quite old, and that cheered me up a bit.

          Then I came home, huffed some glue and now I'm talking to you. Pretty average weekend if I'm being honest.
          I hope you waste as much time reading this as I did typing it.

          What about you wiki? What made your good weekend so good?

        • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2016 - 00:17

          @outlander: I found a big packing box and hid in there. I thought it would be funny and that I deserved a break from my husband and the kids. I curled up and fell asleep. That was Saturday morning.

          The smell of freshly baked blueberry cheesecake is what woke me up. Not the kids; not JJB; not the dog. Cheesecake on a late Sunday afternoon is bound to make anyone happy. So is a long beauty sleep. I'm well-rested and happy and I want to play but everyone's gone to bed now
          :(

          They look like little angels when they sleep - all four of them- that I can't bring myself to wake them up.

          Perhaps I should get some packing done instead of keeping you up ;you who has had such a busy weekend and must be desperately in need of your beauty sleep.

          So 'night mooky shnookshnoook.

          W

          P.s. Sniffing glue kills your brain cells but you already know that.

        • outlander on 16/05/2016 - 01:17

          @Jar Jar Binks:

          Only the ones that are holding you back. Besides, its the only way I can get to sleep

          Your weekend sounds very nice wiki. If you ever want to swap lives for a week let me know, then I will hide in a box all day while you go around doing whatever it is I seem to do. Could be an eye opener for both of us. Your kids might get a bit confused, but I'm sure they'll play along once I impress them how many pushups I can do. Plus I have a booby apron, so that should go a far way to smoothing the transition :D

          No, I have not seen the cobain doco. Any good?

          Now if you'll excuse me, your right, I am desperately in need of some beauty sleep. Your endearing tales of wafting scents and stretching out in arcs under gentle sunbeams have somewhat unsettled me, as I'd hazard a guess was they're intention, and I desperately need to recover my frosty disposition before some dangerous idea catches root. Good night.

  • airzone on 14/05/2016 - 11:34
    +2

    Antarctica. Dancing penguins.

  • ozyhsk on 14/05/2016 - 11:37
    +1

    US, just for the awesome shopping… ;)

  • cDNA on 14/05/2016 - 11:47

    Any country that isn't big on religion or a country with no lunatic radical islamic terrorists and crazy right-wing white crackers.

    Does anyone have any suggestions?

    • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 20:17
      +1

      Israel. Did I get it right?

      • cDNA on 14/05/2016 - 20:45
        +1

        I don't know the answer.

        I'm scared of being blown up or kidnapped for protesting against the lunatic government. I don't want to live in a country that kills children to flex their muscles and make a point.

        Perhaps if a more centrist government is elected with a kinder PM, then I will consider it. Israel's military are cold blooded killers.
        Jerusalem is a nice place, though.
        The Israelis are very kind despite some of the crazies they have in their country.

        • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 22:05

          I LOVE ISRAEL. I would live there in a heartbeat. Not permanently but definitely for a while.

          And the military is amazing.
          And their soldiers are damn fineeeeeee.

          Edit - ok some loser down voted me. Sorry if you disagree with my experience (assuming you have actually been there yourself) but I LOVED it there.

          I forgot to add, they party LIKE MAD. I was taken aback at just how hard they party.

        • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 22:24
          +3

          The Israeli government won't kill or kidnap you for protesting their government, they just won't let you in if you are against their country :-) but anyone who lives there can protest as much as they like as long as they don't turn violent or plot a violent act.

          Israel are nice people but unfortunately when it comes to the polls only the right wing has a track record of keeping them relatively safe by taking such a hard line against Israel's enemies, so they basically have to choose between being more compassionate with people who are probably against them (as a whole) and putting their family's safety first. Not much of a choice really, what would most people choose even if they didn't want to

        • jovialjosie2002 on 14/05/2016 - 23:31
          +3

          @Beethoven:
          The person who down voted you probably gets all their experience of Israel from sbs news or bbc…..and we all know how biased they are.

        • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 23:33
          +2

          @jovialjosie2002:

          Or www.what-israel-doesnt-want-you-to-know.com or some other absurdly named website.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/05/2016 - 08:19
          +1

          @jovialjosie2002:

          Lol now 4 people have down-voted me.
          Have you people even been there? I would be genuinely shocked if you actually have. PM me.

        • outlander on 15/05/2016 - 19:55
          +3

          @Beethoven:
          I voted you down because you mispelled Aerial. The little mermaid is something that deserves respect. peace

        • cDNA on 16/05/2016 - 20:56
          -1

          @The Land of Smeg:

          Hard to have sympathy for a terrorist state that invaded a land that didn't belong to them. I find it funny how America has a whinge about Ukraine getting annexed, but has no problem with Israelis occupying an area that belonged to Palestine.
          I did my history. I'd be mad if a bunch of Europeans came into my country, stole my home and killed my parents then called it a Jewish state.

        • onlyletters on 16/05/2016 - 21:24
          -2

          @Beethoven: wow out of all countries u love Israel the country that teaches its children to be tolerant to the all except Palestinians. And you think Israel wants peace with the Palestinians?

        • onlyletters on 16/05/2016 - 21:26
          -2

          @jovialjosie2002: BBC is actually pro Israel

        • onlyletters on 16/05/2016 - 21:29
          -1

          @The Land of Smeg: if someome kills ur entire family, will u not seek revenge? do you wonder why the Palestinians are seeking revenge? do you blame them? who's fault is it? Israel you guessed right ..

        • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2016 - 21:31
          +1

          @cDNA:

          Please don't go off topic.
          Create your own thread about Israel if you like. Don't have my thread closed please.

        • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2016 - 21:31
          +1

          @eXtremist:

          Please don't go off topic.
          Create your own thread about Israel if you like. Don't have my thread closed please.

        • cDNA on 16/05/2016 - 22:24
          -3

          @Beethoven:

          I have. Great place. Palestine has always been a beautiful country.

          I am not pro-palestine, pro-israel, religious or a right-wing evangelical from the States.
          I look at things objectively.

          "Right of Return" has got to be the biggest load of cockwash since Donald Trump. God doesn't exist. There is no Jesus Christ. It's all a story parents tell their children to keep people in line and keep them from expanding their minds into science and reason.

          I have no sympathy for child killers. In the last war, Israel killed over 1000 Palestinian children and Hamas fired a few thousand rockets, because of the aggression in the occupied territories.
          What is wrong with those nut cases? The average age in Gaza is 17 years old and Israel drops 500 pound munitions like its nothing. Israel has also broken 65 United Nations resolutions and they have not been invaded yet like Iraq was when it only broke 2 UN resolutions.
          When I see Australia voting to reject the UN Palestinian resolution for statehood while every other country except the UK and the USA vote against it, I know there's something seriously wrong with this world.
          It frustrates me that we have leaders who have no moral compass. Bible-loving morons.

          cDNA on 16/05/2016 - 22:24 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
        • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2016 - 22:31
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          @cDNA:

          Thank you for your contribution.

          Please don't go off topic.
          Create your own thread about Israel if you like. Don't have my thread closed please.

          [Deactivated] on 16/05/2016 - 22:31 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
      • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 22:04
        +3

        Israel isn't actually THAT religious. Numerically there are tonnes of uber religious people but the people you meet on the street are secular.

        • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 22:14
          +1

          Correct, but still plenty of religion, plenty of right wing, and plenty of terrorists (and plenty of the opposite of each one too). Ironically the Terrorists and Israeli right wing play right into each other's politics to make each other stronger because they both want to fight, so they give a fight to one another.

          [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 22:14 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
        • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 22:16
          +3

          @The Land of Smeg:

          I have no reply to this but I hope no one else replies either.
          It will go too far off topic.

          Thank you for your contribution :)

          [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 22:16 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
      • onlyletters on 16/05/2016 - 21:32

        the leaders of Israel are orthodox Jewish and they are the worst of the worst, makes isis look like a bunch of sisi girls

        onlyletters on 16/05/2016 - 21:32 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
        • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2016 - 22:17

          Please don't go off topic.
          Create your own thread about Israel if you like. Don't have my thread closed please.

    • Daibaw on 16/05/2016 - 20:45

      For that point alone I would say China.

      China is unique in its utter utilitarian attitude towards religion throughout the history. Compared to the west, religion plays a very distant and ritualistic role in its culture, which systematically exterminated the breeding ground of jihadists and right wing crackers. The political correctness BS in the west to avoid hypothetically offending religious people simply doesn't exist in China, at least not among ethnic Hans.

      Extremism do exist in recent years but itself has very little of domestic origin, most funded by all the middle east oil money IMO.

      The same holds true for any country with a Chinese and Japanese majority but of course neither China nor Japan is particularly foreigner friendly in many other ways (languages etc). That said I would say Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore may make the shortlist.

  • scotty on 14/05/2016 - 11:56
    +3

    I met up with a young bloke yesterday who is doing co-op program in uni, and works in financial banking. We had a chat on what he plans to do after leaving uni in 18 months. A very business-minded guy he said he might consider Hong Kong. Still has the appearance of a free society, good access to China, knowing Chinese is not mandatory, lots of activities and opportunities if you are capable, and a very fun city for under 30's (according to him).

    • Lysander on 14/05/2016 - 12:13
      +2

      Key word there is "appearance" of a free society. If that was true, no thank you. I want to be where a society IS free, not where it APPEARS TO BE free.

      • scotty on 14/05/2016 - 12:21
        +2

        Your personal experience living there to make such conclusion? @altomic even suggested China :) Each to their own I guess. The guy I talked to is laser focused on his career development, and I think HK might be suitable. Personally I wouldn't want to live there. Too crowded and I am getting old…

        • Lysander on 14/05/2016 - 12:38

          Yes but even without that even the guy you talked to said "appearance" as you stated.
          If he does not know it seems to me he needs to more research.
          Countries like Russia and Belarus also have an appearance of free elections - we all know what it really is.
          I know someone suggested China - China now does very much control HK and watch them closely. If one values human rights, free speech, freedom of expression and all the other great things many of us take for granted, living in China is very problematic. Holidays OK (although again, I would not want to support such a regime) but living there.
          Most of the people on Ozbargain would be arrested there for saying the things they say on this website. Think jv with his "critical" comments alone.
          I certainly would be arrested there if I said what I think and believe as I do not believe in government corruption, curtailing of freedom of speech and human rights.
          I do feel sorry for the people there but as history has shown the only way for real freedom to be achieved is if that desire comes from the people (e.g. see the many revolutions in Europe and recently in the Middle East), not solely through the intervention of Western countries.

        • scotty on 14/05/2016 - 12:41
          +2

          @Lysander: Ha. That's certainly different from my experience (relatives in HK), and the guy I talked to had also done summer school there so I think he knows what he is talking about. I suggested Singapore but he said it's not as fun & engaging as HK.

        • Lysander on 14/05/2016 - 12:46

          @scotty:

          Well, I have many friends from there, too who are so grateful to have been able to leave.

          And with all due respect: the guy you talked to seems a bit naive. For an international summer school they display their best behaviour just as China did for the Olypmics. That experience is not comparable to really living and working there.

          It is a bit like people going to the Oktoberfest in Munich for 10 days and then believing that that is what Germany is like everywhere.

          Singapore would be the better choice in my opinion too - also a financial centre.

        • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 16:01
          +2

          @Lysander:

          I wouldn't mind Singapore. It's SO expensive though. That is what turns me off.

        • tensai on 15/05/2016 - 22:02
          +1

          @Beethoven:

          what scotty said is true,
          for a young person like OP, HK is "still as the appearance of a free society, good access to China, knowing Chinese is not mandatory, lots of activities and opportunities, fun for under 30s"
          I cannot agree more
          the comments about "appearance of a free society" is true, and for people that permanently lives there would definitely want to leave
          however, the politics side of HK is not going to have much effect on OP.
          For temporary working holiday, HK will be a good place to go. I would not recommend going there for permanent living tho, and for a young family.
          The education system is not good for kids.

          Singapore is close but will not be as fun as HK. Things are expensive, its always hot, culture are not as good.
          Although more people in Singapore speaks English.

          I have been to many places around the world and would suggest you to go to London, given that its English speaking, and Australian under 31 able to apply for the working holiday for two years. Proximity to other European countries is definitely a pro, young guys should explore the world.

        • antzz on 16/05/2016 - 18:20
          +3

          @Beethoven: Singapore is not expensive. at least not as expensive as Sydney. You could get everywhere around the planet with great SQ connections, live with income tax under 10%, lots of great company with good pay, easy market access at your door step, english speaking, and you can have a live in maid for around SGD 500 per mth.

          With similar salary level, your take home pay will be much higher due to lower income tax and subsidized housing from the company.

          What is cheaper in Sg :

          Eating Out
          Clothings
          Brand Name Accessories (bags, shoes, electrical goods, etc)
          Flight
          Public Transportation and Taxi
          Services in general (electrician, plumbing, massage, Hair Salon etc)
          Medical

          What is More expensive

          Car
          Landed House
          General Australian Goods (milk, meat etc are super premium)
          Alcohol

          For what is worth, Singapore is good city to live in if you are still single. As a smart blonde especially if you are good looking, you will have massive advantage career wise and probably scored millionaires or even billionaires in singapore. However, work life balance is not very good, and people can be very nasty in the office.

        • jkcat on 16/05/2016 - 19:51
          +1

          @Lysander: Simply can't imagine saying "It's not a bargain…" would end yourself up in cell.

        • Lysander on 16/05/2016 - 20:45

          @jkcat:

          Depends on whether you say it to a high ranking official who is pissed off already and disagrees with you and does not accept any talkback.

          But seriously, that is not what I am talking about. More about the "provocative" comments by some people which can actually get you in trouble in certain countries, either by saying them, writing them or posting them.
          You are welcome to try it out - just do not depend on the help of the Australian embassy.

        • arkdog on 17/05/2016 - 11:21

          @antzz:

          In the context of Singapore, what specifically do you mean by "Landed House"?

        • antzz on 17/05/2016 - 12:51

          @arkdog: landed house is house with land. Very simple. In Singapore that is luxury, as land is very scarce and controlled heavily by government. Small 200 sqm land with house can easily fetch 10mil

      • FutureTech on 16/05/2016 - 09:26
        +1

        One of the tutors taught me in college used to say "stay out of trouble" to us at the end of every class. Take his advice and you'll be fine in hk. Bear in mind that you're a foreigner working and holidaying there, not someone trying to rise up against hk and Beijing government

      • ItsMeAgro on 16/05/2016 - 15:08
        +5

        I want to be where a society IS free, not where it APPEARS TO BE free.

        Guess Australia is out, then…

        • Lysander on 16/05/2016 - 20:45
          +1

          Damn right you are.

    • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 12:37
      +3

      I met up with a young bloke

      I suddenly had a picture of you as a 60-year old man O.O Are you really that old?

      • scotty on 14/05/2016 - 12:41
        +9

        Turned 40 this year. People are already calling me uncle at church (full of university students).

        • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 13:06
          +2

          Congrats on turning 40! :)

          I wouldn't take being called "uncle" personally. They are just ingratiating little sh-students who probably just want to get first dibs on the best bargains, or worse, a job at ozbargain .

        • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 16:01
          +5

          @Jar Jar Binks:

          Congrats on turning 40! :)

          Ditto.

          If it make you feel any better, the man at Woolworths called me "Ma'm".

      • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 22:07
        +1

        I actually expected him to be like 50 irrespective to him describing someone as young.

        • lenlynn on 15/05/2016 - 08:49
          +2

          I believe we automatically earn the right to call everyone younger "kids" once we hit 30.

    • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 16:00
      +1

      Thank you.
      I've been to HK a few times and a good friend of mine works in banking there and it's not for me.
      Also, my dietary restrictions make food choices quite hard.

    • JetLi on 17/05/2016 - 13:03

      For a young person career oriented and with the desire to also have fun and enjoy yourself (including travel), definitely think HK is a great option. Being so centrally located in the Asia Pacific region and the city of choice for most MNCs' headquarters, plenty of opportunities to learn and grow. As for focusing on whether it's a free society, to a single young professional person working in HK as an expat, the negative impact would be minimal/non-existent and pros defintely outweight the cons. A lot safer than say London I reckon, better climate and food too.

      Singapore is like the boring little bro of HK, however, if you are coming from Aust, Singapore would tick all your boxes and probably be all that you need. I've always had the mindset, go big or go home, so would choose HK over Singapore any day.

  • chumlee on 14/05/2016 - 12:13
    +3

    Manus Island. Plenty of work

  • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 12:37
    +3

    Switzerland, Russia (Moscow), Singapore, or Finland

    • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 16:03
      +1

      Oooh Finland. Thank you for that suggestion.

      I know someone in Switzerland and I don't like them. haha.

  • retiredfeline on 14/05/2016 - 12:44
    +1

    Instead of deciding on a country now, why not be a nomad for a few years? You are eligible for many working holiday schemes. Try lots of countries. Even the not so good ones will help you appreciate the good ones.

    • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 16:02
      +2

      I want to work. I don't want to be that person who gets to 30 and sure had lots of life experience but can't afford a car or house and have low savings.
      Money is a big thing for me because of the lifestyle I grew up with.

      • retiredfeline on 14/05/2016 - 16:06
        +1

        Nothing says you can't work while being a nomad.

        • lenlynn on 15/05/2016 - 08:51

          But work enough to have substantial savings or a house? Probably not when he is a nomad.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/05/2016 - 10:46
          +2

          @lenlynn:

          Exactly :(

          And "SHE". I am female.

        • lenlynn on 16/05/2016 - 08:39

          @Beethoven: That was me too 10 years ago so I understand. I chose Australia. Have only travelled around Asia and the US and a small part of Australia before I came over. Sometimes I regret it in passing but we can travel later on in life.

          Different priorities, no wrong or right!

  • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 13:31
    +2

    Principality of Hutt River.

    • ItsMeAgro on 16/05/2016 - 15:09
      +1

      Is that on Tatooine?

  • juzz0 on 14/05/2016 - 14:39

    L.A. is a bit of a hole but if you can find work and a nice suburb it has great weather and beaches. Miami a bit less of a hole but very Spanish/Cuban influenced (if you don't really like Spanish culture might not be for you) + less waves. Most of Europe too cold and you would be disadvantaged moving to countries in the Mediterranean unless you are bilingual (true most speak English 80-90%+ but if you don't know the lingo you will be behind from the get go + job market is very difficult in any case Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal etc).

    Indonesia and Bali limited job opportunities even though there are nice beaches. Hawaii a bit too laid back and again most service/tourism oriented jobs not for professionals. So my recommendations are L.A. and Miami (or if you get a REALLY good job opportunity colder even more congested places like NYC or London). I live in Sydney, cost of living way too high. Central Coast/Gosford is a hole as is the gong. Goldie is a bit of a hole as well but not as much as the aforementioned so heading up to Gold Coast/Brisbane in the next year (fingers crossed) not that has anything to do with your question. Think about quality of life not just the status as 'big' cities. At the same time I would advise against all South America unless your family comes from there and has connections, may be nice for travel for a month or two but not for work 1 - 3 years. Africa and Middle East likewise (although some people go on about Dubai it doesn't mesh with my values or what I like for).

    My values are basically beaches, weather, good income professional jobs (where you can use a business Bachelor's or Masters), relatively affordable accommodation and quality of life (many people adore London and NYC but the traffic and unit sizes to live in are atrocious and Sydney is fast heading that way). By the way when I say 'hole' that isn't snobbery just shorthand that there aren't many job opportunities for professionals in those locations and most people who live (Albion Park, Shellharbour, Wollongong) there head to either Sydney or in the case of Centy Coast Newcastle for work.

    As for Aussie cities: Perth is alt-Sydney with expensive house prices, food etc. etc. Darwin is a hole, Adelaide is still a hole, Melbourne is cold and stuck up (not my style), Hobart is cold (but very nice environment) but again a hole in terms of work.

    • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 16:04
      +1

      Thank you for your detailed reply.

      I think continental Europe appears the winner. It's just cutting down to where. I love the other suggestions though and it's interesting to see what interests other people. Factors i had not considered.

    • cDNA on 14/05/2016 - 16:18

      Miami is America's toilet.

      No one likes Florida.

    • T1OOO on 15/05/2016 - 11:31

      I was on the edge of my seat reading every word until you spoke about Adelaide in the manner you did and lost me. I've now taken umbrage and dismissed all your writings.

      Adelaide is the best place to live and work with beaches on ur door step. People just lack the knowledge to find the right places and that's kind of how we like it.

      • juzz0 on 16/05/2016 - 03:53

        I was channelling a certain Sunscreen song parody from twenty years ago which featured a certain man in bearsuit cavorting around Rundle Mall (or maybe it was Melbourne, I forget).

  • blitz on 14/05/2016 - 14:44
    +13

    EDIT - You MUST leave Australia.

    OK, reading between the lines here, I think you have to go where Witness Protection tells you to.

    • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 15:51
      +1

      Haha no.

    • T1OOO on 16/05/2016 - 04:09

      They give them 2 or 3 options though

  • saine on 14/05/2016 - 16:56

    I liked the feel of Vienna, Stockholm (although it's pricey) and Amsterdam. There were some beautiful villages along the Camino route in Spain if you were looking for something less urban. Depends on what kind of work you're planning on doing.

  • Clementt on 14/05/2016 - 17:50
    +1

    For Asia - Taiwan or Japan is nice!
    For EU - Probably Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Switzerland but it is going to crap now because of the policy and unstable economy and politics.

  • Randxyz123 on 14/05/2016 - 18:01

    Europe. Probably base myself in London and travel around a bit from there.

  • captobvious on 14/05/2016 - 18:13
    +1

    Italy on the Amalfi coast, A coastal villa in the cliffs with an infinity pool and if i have enough cash a berth. There i will just sail around in a yacht and explore the Mediterranean and do odd jobs around the place as a bit of income. I would also dive and spear fish again, i have not done any of these sorts of things for a long while. 2-3 years to make it worth while and squeeze enough places in to explore.

    Maybe I could skip having a property all together and just live on the yacht but its not sustainable living on a tin can for that long. So yes, need a home base to go back to with a car to get around inland

  • justcallmeboss on 14/05/2016 - 19:14
    +3

    New York City. Greatest city in the world.

    • T-man on 15/05/2016 - 01:35

      You must be a Trump supporter.

      • justcallmeboss on 15/05/2016 - 01:48
        +2

        Bernie actually

      • [Deactivated] on 17/05/2016 - 03:00

        Let's make America great again.

    • antzz on 16/05/2016 - 18:25

      Was there done that. I dont like the city very much.

      • justcallmeboss on 16/05/2016 - 18:26
        +1

        People like different things

  • snajper on 14/05/2016 - 20:12

    Having travelled a lot I must say Switzerland…. amazing place

  • NueLogic on 14/05/2016 - 20:53
    +3

    I'm surprised nobody mentioned Canada.

    • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2016 - 21:14
      +2

      Someone did above!

      "Canada was also on my list before I ended up here. Still fancy living there for a bit, but I'm getting older now, so it's trickier to get Visas."

  • belongsinforums on 15/05/2016 - 08:05

    England, but not London. That'll help you save easier.

    If you want to pick up a language and save, then Korea is a good option. A mate saved $30000 AUD over a year of teaching, English there. He lived in a small city full of Russian immigrants.

    • [Deactivated] on 15/05/2016 - 08:22
      +1

      Oh Korea might be alright actually. Never been. I should for sure.
      I speak ZERO Korean. Does that matter?

      Could you please send me the details of their English teaching. Pretty please :)

      • belongsinforums on 15/05/2016 - 09:12

        You won't need to know any Korean if you're going there as an English teacher. It wouldn't hurt to learn Hangul before you go, though.

        Korea has four seasons, like Japan. That means it can get extremely cold. Luckily, Korea is known as a bit of a shopping paradise in Asia, so you'll be able to pick up fashionable winter clothes for cheap.

        I have lost contact with that friend. There's heaps of agencies online. Best to set up a job before you go. This looks like a good article that might give you more detail. Sorry I can't be of much assistance.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/05/2016 - 09:24
          +1

          You have been of incredible assistance, thank you :)
          I really appreciate it.

        • belongsinforums on 15/05/2016 - 10:44
          +1

          @Beethoven: Let Ozb know where you end up going!

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