Hair Loss - my advice and experiences, plus a request for advice!

Hi,

I'm a 25 yo male, my hair has been falling out massively over the last six months! My hairline is receding and it's concerning me. I want to do what I can to stop it, I'm willing to pay, but I don't want to waste my money.

For those not familiar with the science of Hair Loss, basically your body converts Testosterone to Dihydrogen Testosterone (DHT). This happens to everyone, but some people (like me) have DHT receptors on their hair follicles, and when DHT comes into contact with the follicles, it reduces blood supply and then shrinks it until the hair stops growing. I have a science degree so I feel I can speak with some certainty about this.

I went to Ashley and Martin (you've probably seen their ads), but their treatment was very expensive. I noticed they only offered four things for about $3000+ if I remember correctly for a year's supply of the following

1: Finasteride 1mg tables
2: Minoxidil topical serum (5%)
3: Pau d'arco Herb
4: Laser Treatment

I figured I could do it myself and save cash and time. I managed to do so for only ~$400 per year.

Here are my thoughts on each of the Ashley and Martin components:

4: Laser Treatment: is probably useful, but I'd suspect it would only delay MPB (male pattern baldness). It's also expensive and you can buy lasers online to use at home which may do a similar job. But given that is this also time consuming, although my intentions would be good, I think I would forget to use it (you have to use it for like 15 mins a day) so I decided not to buy a laser. My friend actually bought the Ashley and Martin treatment package, had good results, but only got the laser treatment a few times because he was too busy to get the others, so I suspect the laser's impact is minimal.

3: Pau d'arco Herb: My research suggests it seems to be a placebo at best. I have not bought any.

2: Minoxidil: Useful, but only delays MBP, it increases blood flow, which increases hair regrow. I like that it is topical (less side effects), I've used it, I cannot comment on how successful it, but I feel like it works, I notice my skin goes red which means vasodilation has occurred. You can get a 6 month supply for around $60 on eBay.

1: Finasteride: This really worked for me, after about 3 months my hair loss effectively stopped. I got a prescription at my local GP. Tablets are about $25 a month if you get a genetic brand. If effectively gets rid of DHT by blocking the enzyme which converts testosterone to DHT.

However DHT is actually a useful hormone in the body for other things (though this is not fully understood), so it has side effects. Most importantly, some people report a permanent sexual dysfunction (which never recovers, even after taking the drug!). When I noticed my that sex drive was a little reduced and that my erections didn't seem to be as strong as normal, I stopped taking Finasteriade as a precaution. But about 3 weeks later… the hair loss started again!!!!

So now I'm faced with choice… to risk loosing my libido… or to lose my hair.

Has anyone else had a similar experience? Has anyone experienced success with another treatment? Please share!

Edit: The herb was Saw Palmetto! My bad! Not Pau D'Arco. Some have suggested giving it a try after all. I will do so :)

Thanks so much for all the compassion and advice! Wasn't expecting it :)

Comments

    • +1

      I grew to accept it, but I still hate it. It’s crap.

      And yet, you still managed to find yourself a wife… You can't look all that crap :)

    • I think it was 5mg that I got from the GP actually - 1.25 mg/day split 4.

      Also, forgot to say thanks to everyone for helping me - much of the research and ideas came from people here :)

  • OP you could always get a hair transplant e.g. FUE - There's heaps of information out there and from memory depending on how much you want it's about $3k - $4k.

    I'm also similar age and losing my hair, but Finasteride scared me when I started reading about the side affects.

    • That's actually really well priced - I do plan to do this down the track. If you know any places/have recommendations, that'd be awesome :)

  • I started using minoxidil 2 month ago so it is too early to see anything (although I think I have 2 new hairs on a previously bald spot)
    I really wanted to take finasterid too but reading that everyone complaining about loss of libido made me scared.

    I had a bit of a research and there were studies with topical finasterid with much less side affects.
    I don't think there is any topical in Australia in retail but you can make it yourself from the oral pill.

    https://www.minoxidilmax.com/topical-finasteride-review-how-….

    I am going to my GP to prescribe the oral pill to me then powder it and mix the right amount into the minoxidil.

    Alternatively, you can order premixed ones online, but I'd trust the home made more. That way I am at least sure that the ingredients are there.

    https://www.minoxidilmax.com/products

  • Shave it. If you want get the scalp micropigmentation. Basically a head tattoo but it get it professionally done. Go to LA for it as Aussie shops here are amateurs. Go to Zane in LA.

  • Some information that might help from someone taking the treatments for 15 years.

    Started having hairloss at 20. I am now 36. I have more hair now then at 20.

    I have spent years researching hairloss. Especially in my 20's when I first started treating my hairloss. I have more hair now than then. I tried every new treatment you can think of for a minimal 12 months.

    Some information in summary

    Treatments

    Finasteride 1mg daily

    Proven treatment. Cheap treatment. Need to give it 24 months to properly work. Side effects are not as bad as people think.

    Minoxidil 5%

    Proven treatment. Cheap treatment. Need to give it 12 months to properly work.

    Ketoconazole (Nizoral)

    Proven treatment. Minimal effect. Shampoo 2x per week and 1x per week Nizoral cream.

    LLLT Helmet (Low level laser therapy)

    Proven treatment. I like this treatment as requires no medication. You need to find one with enough lasers to provide adequate output. 200+ lasers for head coverage.

    Summary

    Out of all the research treatments and unproven treatments everything I tried over the years nothing stood out.

    For my hair I use…

    Minoxidil 10% with custom percent finasteride and dutasteride. Nizoral is the 2x per week and lllt 3x per week.

    Remember…

    Prevention is better the cure for hairloss. Its a lot easier to maintain your existing hair then grow new hair.

    Any questions let me know and I am happy to expand..

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