Teen Seeking Manual Sporty Car

L[Deactivated] on 30/09/2016 - 18:18
Last edited 01/10/2016 - 11:39

Hey I'm on my L's and I require a manual car as I want to get my p's on manual.

Could you guys suggest some cars that meet the following criteria:

•under 10k
•Sporty/modern
•P plate legal
•low kms
•preferably 5 seater as I don't want a car like the mx-5
•Looks good for a high school guy and overall doesn't look like a shitbox
•Doesn't have a bad interior

Thank you

EDIT:
Thank you all for the suggestions , I can't make up my mind and will for other people's opinions . Can I ask one more thing ?

  • I want to mod a cheap car (under 7.5k) , by modding I mean body kit , rims and wing and interior console. Are there any cheap cars that will be suited to this?
Automotive

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      • TheOneWhoKnocks on 02/10/2016 - 23:19

        Must be the younger sex spec brother.

    • [Deactivated] on 03/10/2016 - 09:17
      +1

      That looks gay

      • wombok2 on 03/10/2016 - 11:45
        +1

        I'm glad you came to your senses.

      • dlf73 on 05/10/2016 - 20:45

        Not that there's anything wrong with that!

  • goose25 on 02/10/2016 - 17:49

    Not the newest car out there, but should tick most of your boxes: (18" alloys, 6 speed manual gear box, P-Plate legal, 180kw, looks "reasonably" modern, has an aftermarket diffuser and rear spats, upgraded suspension, nice interior etc.)

    http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Subaru-Liberty-20…

  • stevensx on 02/10/2016 - 20:46

    Mate go with one of the newer shape Lancer's. Can get it for $10K, by the way don't put a silly wing on your vehicle - it adds downforce, making your car slower.

    http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mitsubishi-Lancer…

    • spackbace on 02/10/2016 - 23:08

      Actually I'd be more recommending the shape before it, in the 2.4 and manual. Change the stereo head unit for a newer one, and you're good :)

  • Davo1111 on 02/10/2016 - 22:54

    My mate bought a lancer for his Ps. Dark tinting, muffler, and rear spoiler. Sounded badass. However everyone wanted to race him, and he found it really annoying when driving.

    Plus it's a cop magnet.

    • epicttiimm on 02/10/2016 - 23:04
      +2

      I'm on my Green Ps and I drive a 2000 Corolla. When I go past a booze bus, they just wave me through lol.

      • Davo1111 on 04/10/2016 - 12:47

        haha my friend has a corolla of the same vintage, it's so shit she doesnt even lock it, even parked at westfields

  • mikkim4eva on 02/10/2016 - 23:29

    Is insurance a factor?

    performance car tends to be more expensive to insured~

    • [Deactivated] on 03/10/2016 - 09:19
      +1

      The insurance will be under my dads name , wouldn't that lower the price of insurance?

      • mikkim4eva on 03/10/2016 - 11:08
        +2

        It will still be expensive, unless you are only doing Third party?

        if it's only under his name, accidents cause by you are not covered?

        if it's under both name, the insurance company will take into account the youngest driver and might be cheaper but still might cost a bit.

        best to just do some quotes online on the cars that you would like to have I suppose, I know back in my days the lancer (regardless of what lancer) would cause more to insured than any other car that is on par because of high crash rates haha

  • baj on 02/10/2016 - 23:29

    Nissan Skyline all the way, my favourite. You wouldn't regret it. I had one for 4 years and I was lucky to find a clean car with low kms imported though. I still miss it.

    • [Deactivated] on 03/10/2016 - 09:19

      I don't think they are in my budget or allowed on p plates

      • baj on 03/10/2016 - 11:51

        I think those non turbo models are allowed for p plates. Not 100% sure though. But good luck with your search. Cheers

  • Aspon42 on 03/10/2016 - 10:38

    Have got a hyundai getz that has been faultless with 250,000 on the clock(driven 150,000) , for a smsll engine theyve got plenty of punch and can be picked up for around 3-4g with very few kms on the clock.
    Local mechanic is seeing them come in at 400000 with no problems over lifetime and i suspect because so many of them were sold in Australia the 2nd hand parts market would be fairly liquid at this point.
    Its doesnt use much fuel - my only caveat is to find one that has regular oil change or that granny drove and garaged

  • WhatWouldBiggieDo on 03/10/2016 - 11:30

    Miata is always the answer.

    There's a saying in car enthusiast circles that miata (MX5) is always the answer, and I think it's the answer here too.

    An MX5 is a truly sporty car, not a 4-cylinder front-wheel-drive econobox that pretends to be a sports car. They are light, low powered and handle like they are on rails.

    They aren't powerful or fast, which is perfect for your first car, and force you to drive them properly to get the best out of them. They are cheap, parts are cheap, you can service them yourself, and they will teach you to be a better driver (RWD, no traction control etc).

    You can only fit one passenger so you won't have car full of mates pestering and distracting you.

    You can drive them to work during the week and track them on weekends. And there is massive aftermarket support so you can mod it cheaply if you want to put your personal touches on it.

    I'm biased as i've had many MX5s (I now have a Subaru BRZ) but I think they pretty much make the perfect P-Plater car. You can buy anything from an NA (Series 1 - popup headlights) to an NC (more modern, slightly heavier car, can get a mechanical roof) within your budget.

    • [Deactivated] on 03/10/2016 - 11:58
      +1

      As said before I'd rather have a 5 or 4 seater for convienence

  • zuuutoootuuu on 03/10/2016 - 13:04
    • Prelude 97-01 VTIR manual
    • Integra DC2R/DC5R/DC5S
    • Civic EP3R
    • S2000
    • MX5 NB8
    • S13/180sx sr20de
    • R32-R34 non turbo
    • Subaru Forester GT 03-07 (depending on state, they're P plate legal)

    IMO, don't start putting on big bodykits, painting/modding interior etc…

    Do these mods:

    • Light wheels and good tyres
    • Coilovers and wheel alignment
    • Swaybars if required
    • Simple lip kit
    • Exhaust system with high flow cat (not a canon type unless you want defects for noise)

    Some of the cars on the list will take a little bit of waiting to get the right car for 10k or less but it is possible.

    • Shwayne on 03/10/2016 - 14:15
      +1

      S2000 under $10k? where!

  • Brouw3r on 03/10/2016 - 18:17
    +1

    This thread reminds me of how I had plans to do up a Proton Satria when I was 17, wtf was wrong with me.

    Just get something comfortable and reliable. If you're expecting a $2.5k body kit upgrade to look anything other than ridiculous, you are dreaming.

    For what it's worth I bought a low km Honda Accord Euro Luxury MY06 ~3 years ago with only 60k for $9k from a deceased estate.

  • celticdownunder on 03/10/2016 - 18:39
    +1

    Was in the same position as you a couple of years ago.
    Ended up getting a Lexus IS200

    • You can easily find one under 10k
    • K's will probably be high, but they're super reliable so it shouldn't really matter
    • Looks mad with a decent kit (try to find one with a factory Legana kit)
    • Sounds amazing with the right exhaust (straight 6 goodness)
    • It's quite under-powered, but the weight is low and the 6 speed is really engaging
    • RWD, handles amazing, and the sport models come with a Torsen LSD
    • Audio system and interior are top notch (dat Lexus quality)
    • repairs aren't too hefty because it's basically a fancy Toyota

    Or you can look at the IS300 which has more power (2JZ) but they only come with Automatics.

  • JV159 on 03/10/2016 - 21:10
    +1

    I also enjoyed Need for Speed Underground: 2, still play it sometimes and I'm in my early 20's.

  • miffy on 03/10/2016 - 21:17

    Make sure you factor in safety too. I know it seems lame but getting something a little less fun, but with a 5 star safety rating can mean the difference between a few bruises and getting airlifted to hospital.

  • fruit on 03/10/2016 - 22:06

    Before you bother with a manual..
    One you get your full license "blacks" although my card has always been gold… the automatic only restriction is lifted.

    • miicah on 04/10/2016 - 14:17

      Not in QLD.

      • fruit on 04/10/2016 - 14:20

        Wow! TIL.

  • ywpn on 04/10/2016 - 00:32

    A Civic VTi-R or Integra would be a good place to start.
    I've had a 2000 Civic coupe, and 2002 DC5 Integra (GLi), and they were both heaps of fun.

    Definitely explore the modification path as you'll learn a lot more about car maintenance, culture, and DIY, but from my experience, having done all the same mods you're talking about, I wish I could have learnt all the DIY without the price tag.
    -Bodykit (brand new non-OEM) is ~$2000 from somewhere like OTR Motorsports
    -Wheels + Tyres is ~$2000 depending on the wheels you're after, but historically, that's what I've spent.

    Having learnt from that, I've decided to use the extra money I would have spent on mods to buy a nicer stock car (Skyline (fuel efficiency sucks)).

    Bodykit pros:
    Looks amazing

    Non-OEM bodykit cons:
    You will scrape and shed a tear:
    -rear skirt got torn because I carried 3 heavy back seat passengers, drove out of a drive way, scraped.
    -no matter how careful you drive, there is just the most minor imperfection on the road waiting for you to scrape.
    It might not be a big deal for you, but I felt like QQ'ing every time I heard it.

    Non-OEM fitment - when you look up close, you'll see it's just screws, and double sided 3M tape holding it together, which isn't a big deal, as most people won't notice it, but it's a bit unsettling knowing how it's fitted.

  • grimo82 on 04/10/2016 - 07:29
    +2

    Ha ha ha body kit and wing… Brings back memories of my youth (90's). As others have said don't bother - they serve no purpose and generally look ridiculous (pick something with clean lines) - but you will come to learn that with age :)

  • shiny1 on 04/10/2016 - 08:42
    +2

    Forget the body kit. Almost all of them look horrible and cost too much to prepare and install. If you want to make your ride look nicer, lower the car. If you have money, get coilovers. Looking at your budget, lowering springs will have to do. A lower car with a nice set of wheels looks infinitely better than a car with a tacky body kit. If you only get a body kit, you will still have to lower the car in order to get rid of the wheel arch gap. By lowering the car, you already have a problem with some driveways and speed humps. Add a body kit and that problem will become much worse. If you insist on adding a "kit" of sorts, I'd say a front lip front a reputable brand (or copy), and maybe skirt extensions, but even that's overdoing it, in my opinion.

    Mods will get expensive; keep them light for your first car. It will be tempting to buy this and that because you're young and new to the scene, and all your (richer and/or more irresponsible) friends have better cars, pressuring you into matching them. Personally, I think it's better to have a simple and clean car that's neat on the inside and outside, rather than have too many frills.

    Cost breakdown (which WILL happen if you fall into the modding bug):
    Prices are rough estimates that factor in 2nd hand, bargain hunting, DIY, etc

    $10,000 car
    $1,500 stamp/service/CTP/rego
    $1,500 insurance

    $1,000 suspension/bushings and labour
    $1,000 set of wheels and tyres
    $1,000 body kit/lip/skirts/rear pods, paint, install

    $1,000 stereo, speakers, amp, sub, deadening, install

    $500 pointless power mods for NA car

    $200 visual knick-knacks like fake brake calipers, gear knobs, LED lights

    TOTAL: almost $18,000 within your first 3 months of purchase.

    • [Deactivated] on 04/10/2016 - 09:42

      Well I've had a few people saying not to do the body kit so I will not . But I will lower the car and new wheels. I will definitely get a new console or touch screen thingy for the radio . Also these mods will probably come in gradually and not plowing that much money in the first 3 months. Most of these mods will been bought from eBay or places for cheap and be a DIY with the help of my dad. I said under 10 k to see what I could get for the maximum price I'd pay for my first car. I probably would get one for 6-8k anyway to make money available for insurance , mods and rego. I want to go for a s13/14 or a accord euro . There are plenty of euros under 10 k at good condition but can't find an s13/14 under 10k at good condition .

      • Euphemistic on 04/10/2016 - 13:13

        Thinking about it, for your first car get a cheap, basic one. Doesn't have to look terrible, and you can add a half decent stereo if necessary. Don't spend too much on modifying it.

        You can own/drive it for a year or two, learn how much it costs to run, be less obvious to the cops and save on insurance. Once you've decided what you want from there you can get something more your style. You might change your tastes/requirements after a year or two and discover you need a ute/wagon/4wd instead of something sporty and you wont have wasted money on mods for the first car.

        I started out with a 'spare' old car in the family, which I learnt to maintain and upgraded the stereo/speakers. It wasn't anything that had street cred, but it was better than my mates that had nothing. I then went through a few different styles. Small 4wd while mates were into that, then a 4cl front wheel drive with big wheels and a noisy exhaust for driving up and down the highway for work, then a classic V8 for power. Now family priorities have taken over I don't mod my cars as much. Mine is the '2nd' car in the family and has been upgraded to suit growing kids and changing needs. Each car I've owned for 3-4 years along the way before my needs and tastes changed.

        • [Deactivated] on 04/10/2016 - 16:00

          I don't know what car to get for cheap when they all look like shit boxes , any suggestions ?

        • supnigs super skids on 04/10/2016 - 16:10
          +1

          @Dean00: I learnt in a carona and drove a starlet as my first. This basically equates to a corolla and yaris to you today. No need to mod Coz it's gonna be bruised and bumped anyway. Lol

          Get something really good later on after off Ps

        • Euphemistic on 04/10/2016 - 19:16
          +1

          @Dean00: looks are subjective. You might need to get over the image thing and go with something left field, I like I suggested, having a car is a big step up from mates who don't have one.

          Sure, don't spend your hard earned on something you hate, but there are plenty of cars that are perfectly reasonable. Corolla, lancer, pulsar, focus, impreza. Despite what a lot of people say about them they powerful enough, roomy enough for a few mates or a bike, got enough features, fuel economy is ok, plenty of parts and accessories available etc.

          Anyway it sounds like you've got your mind set on something, so offering an up a suggestion of a basic or normal car doesn't sound like its gonna work.

        • [Deactivated] on 04/10/2016 - 19:52

          @Euphemistic: no I don't have my mind set on anything

        • Agret on 05/10/2016 - 20:35

          @Dean00: I have a Mitsubishi Magna 1999 Sports Sedan and while it has a rear spoiler it's pretty basic looking car, being 4dr it's pretty handy if you go camping and stuff and it has plenty of power with the V6 engine. I think the Mitsubishi Lancer looks a lot more sporty being a 2dr car and would still have a fair bit of power to it. You can get the cars pretty cheap and being Japanese the parts are very cheap in Australia so it doesn't cost much to keep them running well.

  • warwick108 on 04/10/2016 - 19:21

    I would take a look at the Corolla Sportivo, its a Toyota so it will last forever with very little maintenance.

    its got 141kw in its 1.8 4 banger which is roughly the same as an Integra Type R however its slower due to its weight disadvantage.

    • warwick108 on 04/10/2016 - 19:29

      Also if your planning to mod the appearance you may want to look at ones that are already modded. Kids generally spend a lot of money doing this and get very little back when selling it.

  • Providence on 04/10/2016 - 22:11

    A few people have linked to autos as examples of what you can buy for your money. Since you are after a manual, keep in mind that manuals are typically cheaper than autos both new and used (in most cases) so make sure you are comparing like with like when working out how much something is worth and how much you will offer when you find something you like.

  • Aids on 05/10/2016 - 00:08
    -1

    Found it!

    • Providence on 05/10/2016 - 01:14

      <deleted> (sorry - thought was OP)

    • [Deactivated] on 05/10/2016 - 08:26

      This looks so bad

  • Chubbsmcfatflabs on 05/10/2016 - 12:06

    Skoda Octavia rs..Vgood car

  • bargaineer on 05/10/2016 - 18:25
    +1

    How about a Ford Focus cicra 2006. I used to have an LS Focus and it was a fun and sporty car. You'll pick up a tidy one for a fair bit less that a Mazda 3, and they sit on the same chassis and have the same Mazda engine.

    Looks are a personal thing, but I think they've aged really well and the interior, whilst boring is pretty good quality (way better than a Corolla or Lancer.

    This one seems pretty good - http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Ford-Focus-2006/OA…

  • StewBalls on 05/10/2016 - 22:35

    Save yourself some trouble & just send all of your money to the SDRO now…

    • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2016 - 08:06

      State Debt Recovery Office ?? I have money , if I didn't I wouldn't even be looking for a car or to mod it . If I could downvote I would .

      • Euphemistic on 06/10/2016 - 08:45
        +1

        No. Super Drag Race Organisation.

  • fertiliser on 06/10/2016 - 12:07
    +1

    i cant believe so many people are taking the time to post constructive answers when the OP comes across as ungrateful for nearly everything

    • StewBalls on 06/10/2016 - 15:33

      OP doesn't exactly come across as the sharpest tool in the shed either…I shudder to think that entitled kids like this are the future of the nation.

      • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2016 - 16:41

        You're probably a sterotypical guy who thinks every new generation that comes along is f###ed , well that's what the elders thought of you. As every generation comes they get better , look at history . A new generation breeds new people who will have influence over the future . Without lincholin their would of have been slaves for many more years after that. Also I'm not an entitled kid , I work hard for my money and I'm a top student in school . PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING THE INTERNET YOU . I bet you don't have kids or you're an old guy that still thinks LGBT's should have no rights . "Sharpest tool in the shed" ,wtf do you mean about that ? Im asking friendly people who are helpful unlike you for reccemendations for a first car . I shudder to think you are the current generation of this country . THANK YOU OTHER FRIENDLY PEOPLE !

        • SBOB on 06/10/2016 - 17:57

          and I'm a top student in school

          though not in english class though right?

          Each generation is technically smatter than the last with respect to IQ, but I'm sure his elders didn't shake their heads as much as the current do when they see the sentence structure and spelling of todays generation :)

        • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2016 - 18:20

          @SBOB: ceebs (can't be bothered) , im typing fast

    • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2016 - 16:33
      -1

      your opinion does not matter and I don't come off ungrateful for everything . I appreciate the time it took strangers on the internet to help me out , frankly I don't care about you. THANK YOU TO THE OTHERS WHO WERE HELPFUL AND NOT RUDE.

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