Hi all,
Just want to collect some people's opinion in regards to this matter.
I was given a parking ticket for parking across a driveway. The ticket also states the wrong suburb, there is no such street at that suburb.
I am more than happy to pay the ticket if I am in the wrong here.
Here is the picture- Silver car on the right.
https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/110358/43342/cquihz1_-…
You were infront the driveway, albit the curved bit. You broke the law just deal, the owners prob reported you lol.
I once got one for parking in my driveway but sticking out a little into the walkway :p like 3-4 cm.
Same bs shit, you can argue but I doubt its a fine worth your time. Mine was like $25 rofl.
I got. Parking fine back in the day for ten bucks… I laughed on the inside
Definitely challenge that.
From what I know there is no set distance you must be from the edge of a driveway. You must just not be blocking it.
On that photo you are parked legally as far as I can tell.
And you should be able to challenge any fine that says you were blocking the driveway.
Edit: checked my local Victorian road rules and it is as I said. Not sure about NSW.
Good point,
Did not see anything on the car on the left.
Nah that's not right - see the Australian Road rules I posted below.
"A driver must not stop on or across a driveway or other way of access for vehicles travelling to or from adjacent land unless…."
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A driver stops on or across a driveway or way of access if any part of the vehicle is on or across the driveway or way of access—see rule 350.
Even if 1cm is across the driveway the offence is made out - it doesn't need to block a vehicle.
Hum, maybe - but de minimis
What if it's my own car blocking my driveway?
While you would hope most drivers would use common sense, I think it's wrong that they have the arrow saying parking to the left is allowed.
Yes, the law about blocking driveways would trump the sign, but gee, put it in a better location.
Take a look at the Australian Road Rules :
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/sa/consol_reg/arr210/s198…
If you are leaving your car unattended - you must not stop ANY PART of your vehicle on or across a driveway or way of access. Yes it is harsh, but it does look like a small part of your vehicle is parking across the driveway. I think if the photo was taken from the footpath it would be quite obvious
The ticket also states the wrong suburb, there is no such street at that suburb.
Don't pay. Wait until they send you a reminder letter. Then tell them you didn't know you've been issued an infringement ticket. And point out to them the location of the 'alleged offence' doesn't exist. And ask for photo graphic evidence of you blocking a driveway on XXX Street in Suburb Y.
And point out to them the location of the 'alleged offence' doesn't exist. And ask for photo graphic evidence of you blocking a driveway on XXX Street in Suburb Y.
op's image https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/110358/43342/cquihz1_-… is from the location. the issuing officer can send the driver a new infringement notice with the correct street and suburb. the sdro won't waiver the fine just because the first notice may have had the wrong information.
From the NSW Roads and Maritime website
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/park…
General parking rules
You must not stop your vehicle (that is, bring it to a stop and either stay with the vehicle or leave it parked) in the following circumstances:
Double parked (that is in the road alongside a car that is parked)
***** On or across a driveway (unless dropping off or picking up passengers for no longer than 2 minutes) *****
On or across a footpath
On a median strip or traffic island
On motorways
In a clearway
On footpaths and nature strips
At a BUS STOP or within 20m before and 10m after a BUS STOP or between a BUS ZONE, TAXI STAND or TAXI ZONE signs
In a safety zone or within 10 metres before or after a safety zone
Within an intersection
In a slip lane
On or within 20m (before) or 10m (after) a pedestrian crossing, marked foot crossing or children’s crossing (unless a sign allows you to park there)
Within 20m of an intersecting road at an intersection with traffic lights unless a sign allows you to park there
Within one metre of another vehicle parked in front or behind
(does not apply when angle parking)
Within 10m of an intersecting road at an intersection without traffic lights unless a sign allows you to park there (see image)
Car parked just ouside of 10m from the intersection.
Within three metres of any double centre lines
Within three metres of an Australia Post letter box unless dropping off or picking up passengers or mail (see image).
Car parked three metres away from both the double centre line, and three meters away from Austalia post box.
Within 20 metres before and 10 metres after a bus stop (see image).
Cars parked 20m before and 10m after a bus stop.
On or within 20 metres before and 10 metres after a children’s crossing or pedestrian crossing (see image).
Cars parked 20m before and 10m after a pedestrian crossing.
Within 10 metres before and three metres after a marked foot crossing with traffic signals.
Within one metre of a fire hydrant, fire hydrant indicator or fire plug indicator.
On a railway level crossing.
Within 20 metres before and after a railway level crossing (see image).
Car parked 20m before and 20m after a railway crossing.
When you are parking on a hill or a curve outside a built up area, make sure that someone coming over the hill or around the bend can see your car from at least 100 metres away.
These are the road rules. So I still think you have grounds to argue your case.
You were not obstructing the driveway.
And in the eyes of the law the exact boundary of the driveway can be argued.
Great informative comment. Drug house 2 doors from me (WA). Cars wait on verge then crawl along till the "runner" takes their order and brings it back to them. Queues last till 3am. Police sympathic but don't rush around to book them. Must check law here.
The image shows a p plater. The driver may have had problems with other motorists partially blocking their driveway, making it difficult for them to reverse out.
So when your drive is blocked do you call the council or the police?
You were not obstructing the driveway.
And in the eyes of the law the exact boundary of the driveway can be argued
This road rule is to stop motorists from parking to close to a driveway, that may impede other motorists safety while exit or entering the road.
The image shows that the silver BMW parked beyond the driveway verge.
That's harsh. Parkings like this happens on every street every daywithout problems. I suppose that poor parking ranger needed to fill his/her day's quota and you were there to help.
did the parking ticket say forest lodge or glebe?
None. It said Surry Hills.
Wow!
Thats heaps far away. Can you argue you were not in surry hills at that time?
you drive a BM - pay the ticket and don't be so silly again
or
object to the ticket, read the wording in the charge when it arrives
if it says the wrong suburb, go to court and you cannot lose
if it says the right suburb, go to court and plead guilty and ask for leniency, as while you are slightly over the driveway, car entry/exit is not impeded
consider whether a day at court is worth your time
do not enter into any discussion about the ticket being wrong, as already said, they'll simply issue a new one with the right suburb
How wide is the road and were there cars parked on the otherside? It could be difficult to reverse out of that driveway as you have parked a too close.
You're done son, cough up.
My neighbours park like this and the ones across the road park directly in opposite my drive way. I have only sight in one eye and our car is very difficult to turn ( its like driving a truck) .So when I am trying to back out of the driveway its a nightmare, personally I would like people to be a little more considerate.
maybe reverse into your driveway and drive straight out?
I wish they'd fine all the inconsiderate people who park like this. A car parked like that at the end of your driveway leaves very little room to swing the front end when backing out, especially if there are cars parked on the other side of the street.
I sympathise with you trying to find a parking spot in the Inner West, but your photo angle makes it look better than it probably was - I think if you took the photo in direct line of your back bumper, we'd see the bumper is in line with somewhere between the RHS of the P-plate car and the leftmost gatepost on the RHS of the driveway - ie, over the driveway.
I met a parking inspector trying to give me a fine and I asked him what was wrong as I am on private property? he said my wheel was on the footpath. It was 1cm! I told him I will move my car. These inspectors are ruthless and often work in pairs as they get attacked often. I don't think you will get off as they know what they can/can't do.
I think that is a bit harsh. You were not impeding that P-Plater's exit.