Original 20% off at Selected Stores on eBay Deal Post
Cheapest elsewhere via StaticIce is $320 at MSY.
7 Drives in stock at time of posting.
Datasheet for the drive: http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/nas-fam/n…
2x 8TB available on amazon for $499 in the mybook duo 16TB. just rip the hdds out. warranty would be questionable.
i'm concerned about helium being used in drives. they just might die after 5 years as eventually the helium WILL eventually escape.
I am also looking for 8tb. The duo is currently available in Australia also for 800 with Ebay discount from futu. But again I am afraid I might void the warranty by putting them into another non Wd nas. I know the price here is lot more but it gives local warranty which some of us prefer for peace of mind.
I'm pretty sure the drives themselves have RMA warranty. Not sure how it compares to the warranty for the whole unit though.
@joshk: im not sure the individual drives can be warrantied. as it means you've opened the retail enclosure, and as far as corporations go - consumers are stupid and likely to do the damage in the process regardless of whether the drive is defective.
if your drive fails, and it's been formatted and you try put it back in to claim warranty, they'll probably know when diagnostics are run and they'd likely refuse warranty.
as far as i will treat it, zero warranty. unless they die very early on.
ive had wd green's fail, but had plenty of seagates fail as well. hoping the red's will be more reliable.
@joshk: yes they are wd reds, but as they are sold in an enclosure the warranty is probably for the whole enclosure. if wd know your taking them out they'll probably void the warranty.
@insular: my Mybook Duo has user replaceable drives, you just turn a lever and pull the drives out and there's no security tape or anything to indicate they've been removed, so in case of a warranty claim they can be put back in and a claim made on the enclosure (assuming you still have it).
They're Reds, right? Don't they also spin at 5,400rpm? The IronWolf spins at 7,200rpm.
I'm also against using helium in drives, more so because it's a rare element on earth. We use it for balloons and hard drives (yes, in minuscule amounts), but I'd rather keep it for essential medical equipment that needs it.
That said… if there's a bargain, morals go out the window :S
consolidated storage keeps me sane
and saves time and effort management wise
there's a medical benefit
I wasn't aware that there was a Helium shortage so looked it up.
From wiki
According to helium conservationists like Nobel laureate physicist Robert Coleman Richardson, the free market price of helium has contributed to "wasteful" usage (e.g. for helium balloons). Prices in the 2000s have been lowered by U.S. Congress' decision to sell off the country's large helium stockpile by 2015.[103] According to Richardson, the current price needs to be multiplied by 20 to eliminate the excessive wasting of helium. In their book, the Future of helium as a natural resource (Routledge, 2012), Nuttall, Clarke & Glowacki (2012) also proposed to create an International Helium Agency (IHA) to build a sustainable market for this precious commodity.[104]
At the same time:
Previously, terrestrial helium—a non-renewable resource, because once released into the atmosphere it readily escapes into space—was thought to be in increasingly short supply.[6][7][8] However, recent studies suggest that helium produced deep in the earth by radioactive decay can collect in natural gas reserves in larger than expected quantities,[9][10] in some cases having been released by volcanic activity.[11]
And just like with all other sources of helium, once it gets vented by volcanoes, it's gone into space.
Mining helium at the required depths just isn't economical, so it might as well be in Jupiter (it is, but in a slightly different form)
Same, need some good deals on 10tb. The cheaper I can get 4-6 babies the better, finally be able to use my G8 which I just got the xenon cpu for.
I bought an 8GB one off of another deal as a backup after an unfortunate RAID incident (which we don't talk about in my house..)
They are fair drives but beware that the mounting holes are in the wrong place, this is ridiculously frustrating.
Hello fellow G8 owner. Which Xeon did you get? I'm trying to decide whether to upgrade to the xeon or not. The alternative is I use the gen8 to run freenas and get a seperate NUC to act as an esxi host. Freenas will do iscsi so there shouldn't be a problem there.
The 2.5ghz one.
Damn, I'm looking for drives. Was looking at the 4TB due to price ($225), and need 4 of them, but at this price I should get 4 of these. But I don't want to spend the money at the moment … torn!!!
Snooze you loose, I guess.
Would be crazy not to pay the little extra for 50% capacity increase!
They have the 4tb WD Reds on eBay for $207 shipped after discount
Thanks for the heads up, just got 3.
Be careful buying anything from Futu though, especially fragile things. They have wretched after sales support.
Generally, is this on par to WD Red's performance and durability?
Also interested to know this. My WD greens have started to show some errors in their weekly checks, on the lookout for some more durable replacements and set up some redundancy.
Says sold out now :(
Works for me?
Was able to just order
still says out of stock for me
Still says 7 are available.
Guess they're adding items back to stock.
I messaged the seller earlier in the day to ask them to clarify this whole "IronWolf" thing. The model number on the drive corresponds to the 6TB Seagate NAS. the 6TB Seagate IronWolf ends with VN0041 and runs at 7200rpm. From what I can tell, the latter has 3yr warranty, the former only has 1yr?
The misbranding appears a common mistake, see https://www.mwave.com.au/product/seagate-st6000vn0021-6tb-na….
Looks like this is an Ironwolf according to the seagate australia website,
http://www.seagate.com/au/en/search/?keyword=ST6000VN0021
According to the data sheet it has 3 years warranty,
http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/nas-fam/n…
The data sheet (US) for the VN0041 is at http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/ironwolf/… and it has 3 years warranty (in the US at least).
Futu replied to my earlier email, didn't say much except they can't confirm anything due to there being no stock for them to physically check.
It could be a regional branding thing; the AU spec sheets show them as Seagate NAS drives with no mention of "IronWolf" anywhere in the documentation other than being listed in the IronWolf section on their website.
From what I can tell, specs of the drives seem to be the same.
These are NOT Ironwolf drives.
http://www.seagate.com/au/en/internal-hard-drives/hdd/ironwo…
As stated by Warhead, Ironwolf drives end in VN0041. VN0021 drives are standard Seagate NAS. Warranty is the same 3 years, but Ironwolf drives do tend to cost a little more.
There is stock still when you click on the link but the price has risen to $369 - the 20% discount ($73.80) = $295.20
Very good deal, though I need 8TB or 10TB.
Also, how come they use an image for the older drives? The new Seagate branding is red (for the IronWolf, as I have an 8TB already)