“Even if we offered it for free, we see the evidence around the world that they wouldn’t use it anyway … we know there are things on the horizon that are going to increase the need for further demand."
With ****ing morons like this in charge are you surprised that your internet is slow and expensive? He sees evidence … how about he connects my house to fibre and gives it to me for free? According to him I won't use it.
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/02/nbn-ceo-says-aussies-wouldn…
Please read the article carefully. Of all the sources of news out there, why would anyone consider Kotaku" to be reliable information.
To summarise the article:
1) Australia's internet sucks and everyone knows it.
2) NBN sucks, and everyone knows it.
3) Currently, NBN providers are only offering 25 / 50 / 100 mbps connections.
4) Now this is this important part…. drum roll please… The NBN is capable of 1000 mbps (i.e 1 Gbps), HOWEVER, there are currently no NBN providers who provide such speeds.
The above statement of:
“Even if we offered it for free, we see the evidence around the world that they wouldn’t use it anyway … we know there are things on the horizon that are going to increase the need for further demand."
relates specifically to a speed of 1Gbps.
Note: Still, I do not agree with his statement. I am sure that are people who would love a 1Gbps speed.
Or to put things into context, this is what he meant.
"Currently, on ADSL, it can take up to 5 minutes to download a VERY large PDF. It sucks."
"The current NBN provisions of 25/50/100mbps allows for documents to be downloaded in about 20 seconds."
"The NBN can provide speeds of 1000mbps, which allows for movies to be downloaded in about 2 seconds."
"However, we see no need to provide a speed of 1000mbps as no one would actually pay more money just to download stuff in 2 seconds as opposed to 20 seconds"
So, the question is simply: "Would you pay more money for your internet if it allows you to download files in 2 seconds, as opposed to 20 seconds?" And the answer for most (but not all) people would be "No".
Exactly what you said. And very few people understand this reality.
I should also point out that there was no mention of "free internet". I have no idea why the OP is interpreting what was said as free internet.
What the article actually said, to paraphrase, was: "Even if we offer a FREE upgrade from 100mbps to 1000mbps, there isn't a point in doing so as most people do not need such speeds."
Most people connected to his fraudband don't have the option, and many don't take up a "100MBs' maximum offer as it is become more widely known that it is "up to 100MBs at least one time every 24 hours", as will happen when 1 fibre to every home is replaced with 2 fibres for every 350 homes with up to the last kilometer being decaying poorly documented copper pairs.
how dare you provide context to his statement and thus deny us the right to be outraged with out knowing the full story.
This is a ridiculous example to cite. Are we all using the Internet for downloading PDFs (one at a time per Household)? You seem to have no idea how modern families and businesses use streaming services, video conferencing, low-latency gaming, concurrent streams, etc.
Such ignorance is widespread, and the reason Australia lacks the political will to provide 21C internet for it's citizens.
And how many such "modern families" we have in Australia? I would say 1-2%. Most people use Internet just for browsing. But I agree that there has to be 1000mbps option anyway.
@niiko:
It's way more than 2%, but this is exactly the problem - most Australians only use Internet for browsing in large part because that's all their connection can support. Australians will continue to be non-participants in the future of communication until their infrastructure enables it
It's way more than 2%, but this is exactly the problem - most Australians only use Internet for browsing in large part because that's all their connection can support.
That's not true. As someone else in the comments have mentioned, even though 50 and 100mbps plans are available, most people actually sign up for the 25mbps plan. Therefore, what they are saying is that unless there is an increased demand for higher speeds (that is, more people signing onto a 50/100mbps plan), there isn't a need for them to provide a 1000mbps connection.
I think all the mints are gumming up the Interweb pipes.
So that's why my NBN router smells like XXX extra strong mints.
What have you been downloading eh? Nudge nudge wink wink.
i ought to tell that nbn guy to put the bong down. offer it free and people will find uses for it.
hell i would pay for nbn if i can get it. oh wait. there is no plans to get nbn in my area but wait. whoop whoop can get it.
Didn't Telstra do this with the initial ADSL rollout? Capacity was there but initially very limited. Because that strategy worked well :P
bill morrow is a (profanity) idiot, he's just a liberal puppet raking in $3mill in tax payer money by trying to push lies and idiocy
The NBN is gonna suck when it eventually arrives where I live.
"claims being made that the Australian public doesn’t want to pay for the higher speed options. Just 15% of consumers have so far opted for speeds of 100 Mbps (Mega bits per second), with the bulk (47%) using the 25 Mbps service and the remaining 33% on the slowest speed of 12 Mbps"
soucrce: lifehacker au,
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2016/05/why-arent-more-customer…
greedy telstra's marketing strategy has something to do with that for sure. but the faster options are there, if people really need that, surely they would have upgraded. them having not done so suggests higher speeds are not in demand, at least not now.
Yeah the default speed for many advertised plans that you see on the billboards and buses, tend to be 12 or 25mbps.
(you see the fine print at the very bottom "speeds up to 100mbps" although the price shown is often for the lowest speed tier)
anyway Australia has a gigantic appetite for data.
The total volume of data downloaded in the three months ended 30 June 2016 was 2.1 million Terabytes (or 2.1 Exabytes). This is a 22.3% increase in data downloads when compared with the three months ended 31 December 2015.
Data downloaded via fixed line broadband (2.05 million Terabytes) accounted for 97.7% of all internet downloads in the three months ended 30 June 2016.
From June 2015 to June 2016, the volume of data downloaded by fixed line broadband showed a 51.8% increase.
people value money more than speeds.
free internet is not pratical. Bill was exaggerating. but it doesn't mean he was completely off. i was chatting with a collegue the other day. he was advised the NBN would be ready soon. i asked him his choice of speeds. he said 25mbps. i asked why not faster. he said wouldn't need faster than that, why paying more for something you don't need. fair enough.
op was talking about speeds. you were quoting data usage. relevance?
you don't have to have faster speeds to download more data. you need a bigger quota. have you noticed more and more companies have started offering bigger plans and unlimited plans even on NBN low speeds plans.
Thats because they keep rolling it out into suburbs like Blacktown, Campbelltown and Gosford. Of course they are not going to pay, NBN would be a luxury on centrelink.
I did not find it cost much more than my old ADSL+, at the same time the maximum speed did not seem to go much faster than the old ADSL+. Too many older WEb pages that slow down their own loading time, I guess. As time moves on, it will get better I hope.
To me the NBN is glorified pay TV. I work from home so I need a good internet connection, and have had NBN in the street for around 6 months now however I have decided not to changing over. I'm using OVO 4G ($60 for 50Gb) and its perfect because I can take it everywhere I want, on holidays, weekends away etc. NBN is fixed and therefore very limited use to me. Telstra is addressing that with Air, however I think most ISP miss the point and just see it as pay TV.
What are people genuinely needing the NBN for apart from Pay TV? I've seen a couple of examples of massive file uploads for work, however that is a tiny niche.
NBN is already outdated. Instead of NBN, they should have started developing the 5G infrastructure so that we are ready for it once the standard is finalised. Good news Telstra understands this and promotes 5G: http://www.smh.com.au/business/telstra-pushes-for-5g-that-wo…
Wireless internet has very high latency though, so for applications that are sensitive to lag such as gaming, you're better off even just using plain old ADSL
Even 4G has latency 15-25 ms, 5G promises 2-10 ms. Of course everything depends on network coverage, but low latency was primary requirement for 5G standard.
I work with NBN everyday and many people always say to me that they never notice a difference and think it's a waste of time/money. Simply because they're not doing anything that requires the extra speed.
That bullshit, regardless 1gig should be an available option. Gov promoting NBN speeds at election for 1Gbs and it no where to be seen.
Been so long and not even building stage at my area.
Incompetent.
I guess he means 'we' wouldn't max it out? regardless it is an odd statement.