The penalty rates for Sunday has now been reduced.
What do you guys think about it? Does it affect you?
Sunday Penalty Rates Slashed
IMadeYouReadThis on 23/02/2017 - 12:52
Last edited 23/02/2017 - 12:57 by 1 other user
Last edited 23/02/2017 - 12:57 by 1 other user
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What? Huh. I'm just outraged. Don't need no numbers or facts. They have had it too good for too long.
This is a good thing. Perhaps we will see longer opening hours on Sunday. Living and working overseas has opened my eyes to how different we operate in Australia.
Employees shouldn't be living off penalty rates - If you are you're doing something wrong with your spending (i know i worked for Woollies and took great $$ on weekends but it wasn't make or break because of it..).
There should be a fair wage that benefits both the business and employee - this works out best for the consumer when both ends are happy. What Australia has now is a skeleton crew on a sunday that makes employees have a tough time and a business cutting hours as well trying to save money.
Look i work weekends but the sunday rate is extremely high on our already higher rates of pay. Its why australian goods are always more expensive than buying from overseas.
I do feel bad for people who are clutching on weekend rates but if sunday rates match saturdays. They will still benefit from some penalty. Look i work monday to sunday on a rotating roster. If i work sundays its nice to have that little extra. But if it happens to be monday to friday i'll just have to live a more frugal lifestyle.I might add that i know our coat of living is pretty high in this country but small businesses would suffer a fair bit from the extra sunday pay. So in that sense, this is good for them
Don't we live in a 24/7 world now where a weekend is just a normal day like Monday through Friday?
I sure wouldn't mind the post office, government agencies and banks to be open weekends. Perhaps we should abolish weekends altogether and let workers decide what days they want off. Now that's a 7 day economy.
Just food for thought, why is the cost of living not being reduced to cater for the decrease in wages on Sundays? Every year it is estimated that the cost of living increases by about 4%, but yet wage increases are unequal to the same rise.
What has Sundays got to do with it?
Cost of living increases every year, but not everyone's wages increases with CPI to take this into account - this doesn't just affect those losing the Sunday penalty rates.
Why don't they lower night shift penalty rates instead of fiddling with Sunday rates? That would generate more night shift work, spread traffic across various times of the day instead of the standard peak times. It might generate more productivity out of our society as well. I for one, wouldn't mind late wake up and working through the night, but those jobs just don't fit what I do. Slashing Sunday rates does nothing but hurt lower income workers that are giving up their weekend… I would value a weekend higher than a weeknight. Does this make any sense to anyone out there or am I alone?
It was a ridiculous law that was killing small business and benefiting a lot of lazy people who just wanted to get by with minimum work.
(excluding students who pay for their own tuition and single moms etc)Closing on Sunday is not just one day off for the owner of small business
it means 52 days of no profit per annum while paying rent for it, it's a huge burden.I don't believe the changes go far enough.
Saturday / Sunday / Public holiday pay should be 100% of the award no more.
Hospitality / Retails industry is not a 9-5 industry, it opens normally at all hours.
These people who work in them CHOOSE to work in them, I don't buy into this sacrifice they make not seeing their kids argument, they CHOSE to work in an industry that does not have normal hours of other industries, therefore they should accept those working conditions.
We're of course NOT forcing them to work, they are free to leave if they wish.
Australia should have the trades rates slashed. Look at those plumbers, electricians or bricklayers and tilers, their hefty rates are high way robbery.
Why do people keep sprouting this nonsense.
The market determines what rates trades can charge - i.e. they quote for work and people either accept or decline.
As opposed to penalty rates which is forced onto businesses by the workplace agreements.Don't forget too that most trades are running their own business, so out of that hourly rate they are paying for tools, insurances and business costs.
If you think the hourly rate is going straight into the bank, then you really have no clue.
Who's sprouting nonsense? Were it not the ridiculous licensing throttle do you think they dare to charge $100 for replacing a tap washer? Do you believe the general electric wiring and connection is that complicated or back breaking? Remember you pay every dollar after tax, so fixing a tap may essentially cost someone half a day's income.
You're a fool if you're paying $100 to change a tap washer.
"I won't be offering to work weekends anymore!" That's fine, there are 381 other people who will.
"Business owners just pocketing all the extra $!!" Yup, they now get to pay themselves $1.20 an hour for their 92hr work week.
"They can't cut MY pay!" They haven't, the base rate is the same, it's a reduction in the additional "thank you for working the weekend" bonus.Let's face it, this is 100% aimed at helping lower the operational costs for small businesses. Medium and Large companies already have EBA's in place that pretty much do this by paying slightly over the award base allowing for a reduced penalty rate. This is a good thing for business. It is a good thing for the economy.
"If you can't afford Sunday rates, you shouldn't have a business!" Many places can afford the penalty rate, provided the business owner doesn't draw a wage and works 80+ hours a week. This reduction might just allow them to have a day off mid week or, God Forbid, pay themselves a small wage!
I don't work Sundays, but this is not good. Their argument is that they can afford to hire more people. Yeah, at your expense. All of you are chipping in to hire someone else.
If it's too expensive to do business on Sundays, they should just go back to the old days and close up shop. The fact they won't means that the sales outstrip the wages in spite of penalty rates. They are still profitable.
Places like HN, TGG, JB etc are very busy on weekends. There's never enough staff around and you always have to wait to be served. That means that the revenue is there and more than enough to cover wages. Closing is out of the question. So they can't use the argument that margins are going to be very tight that day and it is worth considering closing than paying penalty rights. There's no way anyone is thinking about closing on a weekend where most customers don't have work and therefore have the time to come in.
I would have liked to have seen a drop to 130% for ALL hours outside of 6am-6pm, with a loading of some form for overnight shifts.
Cutting quality of life :(
Are you getting those percentages mixed up? or did you not read the article?