SA Power Networks Possibly Passing Estimated Reads off as Actual Reads - UPDATE: Received ludicrous response from SA Power

Long time lurker and bargain hunter, first time poster. Would like some advice on how to proceed further with SAPN or Origin Energy regarding this issue (other than bikies)

Trying to keep it as short as possible, but there's so much detail and screw ups that it's difficult to leave details out:

Moved into our new home (established home) on 15/07/2016, received our first quarter bill for 74 days totalling $821 on 28/09/2016 for 15/07/2016 to 26/09/2016, seemed a little high so investigated further. Checked the bill and the meter reads were listed as actual. Went to the meter and confirmed the meter number was the same, checked the bill meter reads:

Previous read (as at 15/07/2016 when we took ownership): 103509
Current read (26/09/2016 when they read the meter to finalise quarter): 105884

Checked our meter on 30/09/2016 and the total KWh reading was 102057.8. The meter was displaying a read on 30/09/2016 that was well below their apparent actual read on 15/07/2016.

Raised this with Origin Energy and after they confirmed the meter number and what we claimed the meter read was, they escalated to SAPN.

After ongoing investigation I was advised by Origin that SAPN have confirmed that the meter reads were incorrect and they suspect the meter is faulty, so they're launching an investigation and fault find with the meter. Somewhere towards late October I noticed that the meter was replaced completely by a new meter. This then prompted a query around the original bill and this resulted in Origin changing the bill to an "average based on a 2 person home of similar quality". The charges was reduced to roughly $400 which worked in our favour.

Fast forward 2 more quarterly bills and Origins systems keep trying to back charge us $400.48 from the first quarter (15/07/2016 to 26/09/2016) and is having to explain the whole situation to multiple people while being passed around from department to department. The first time this occurred in December a case manager was assigned and advised us that it tried to charge $400.48 due to Origin's systems pulling down the meter reads from SAPN and readjusting our bills to reflect the incorrect reads again.

After Origin refused to cancel the additional charge in this March bill it was escalated to the Energy Ombudsman.

This resulted in an ombudsman case manager from Origin being assigned and investigating the charges. They referred to meter read issue to SAPN again for confirmation.

The result: Apparently SAPN claim the meter reads were correct all along and the meter wasn't faulty (why was the meter replaced without advising us) and why was I advised this by the previous case manager. The Origin case manager claims there are no notes on their system that indicate that conversation occurred. LUCKILY, I have a photo of the meter read from 30/09/2016 showing the correct read, Origin escalated this to SAPN again.

The response: you're not reading the meter correctly and that's not the figure they obtain. There is no other figure similar to this and I was reading the total kWh reading, which according to Origin and various other provider websites, is the reading you need to look at. When I asked for information on how the meter should be read correctly, I was given the runaround. As a "goodwill gesture" Origin credited the $400.48 in a way that we will not be charged the amount again.

However, given the amount of stuffing around (almost 15 calls totalling 5 hours, plus documenting case notes for the ombudsman case) I'm not satisfied with the response from SAPN.

The incident has been posted on SAPN Facebook page for a direct answer which we're expecting tomorrow.

I'm seriously concerned that the previous owners were being incorrectly charged as well and the fact they replaced the meter, without advising of the final read seems really deceitful. I don't think they were expecting me to have evidence against their response.

There is much more that occurred with this case, where Origin were advised prior to the charges being debited that they were in dispute and to hold the charge, for it to be charged anyway and have to fight for it to be refunded.

The issue is somewhat resolved with Origin, but I'm now chasing SAPN for an answer as to why the reads were wrong and why they're now claiming they're correct. If they're able to provide hard evidence that I'm reading the meter wrong then I'm happy to drop it. But I'm seriously concerned that they're covering up the fact that someone who's supposed to be performing actual reads is just doing estimates, which Origin have advised would be illegal, to which I advised that I agreed and I believe this is why SAPN are responding in the way they are.

I'm not giving up that easily on something that has wasted so much of my time.

Do you think it's reasonable to be asking for reasonable compensation for the hours I've had to waste to document and follow up on these mistakes, if it turns out that my read is correct?

Comments

  • Ombudsman. Don't bother dealing with anyone else.

    • I have. The issue was raised through EWOSA for the Origin issue of not crediting back the $400.48 this time around and reslove the issue.

      Origin have resolved their side of the issue by crediting back the $400.48 due to the ombudsman complaint, but only as a goodwill gesture. They claim SAPN have confirmed their reads are correct. The majority of our conversations with Origin haven't even been documented correctly on their end. Had I known this was going to be such a drawn out process where statements made by Origin staff would later be dismissed as never being document, so only my word against theirs, I would've documented from the beginning.

      EWOSA have closed the complaint from their end as well, as Origin have resolved the complaint. I need a deal with SAPN directly now, as it's only been through Origin to date and the conversations between SAPN and Origin.

      If I don't get a satisfactory answer from SAPN now, I raise it through EWOSA against SA Power Networks.

  • Received response from SA Power Networks now and to summarise the issue now. Which I'm dumbfounded they can think this is believable:

    On 15/07/2016 they read the meter at 103509 and on 26/09/2016 they read the meter at 105884. On 30/09/2016 I read the meter at 102057 and I have photographic evidence of this

    The reads they conducted are correct and factual and after our report of incorrect reads they come out for a re-read on 07/10/2016 and read the meter at 102281.

    They claim the meter became faulty in the 4 days between their read and mine. And that the meter (a digital meter I might add) somehow reverted back to a lower number and started again from there.

    Either they were never reading the meters correctly and by their own admission, all of the previous reads for the previous home owner reconciled with their original reads, therefore meaning they could all be invalid. Or they have serious issues with some of their meters out there where it can just jump backwards? It's then not out of the question that they could jump forward and no one would be the wiser?

  • Some random thoughts
    1. It would be interesting to see your photo to ensure that you are reading the meter correctly.
    2. My meter cycles through 6 different measuring parameters, so you do need to catch the right ones.
    3. Does your supplier offer real time meter reading online?
    4. Do a daily reading at the same time to get an idea of your daily usage.
    5. Can you contact the previous occupant to see if they have any history of meter readings to look for trends or strange meter behaviour?
    6. Some solar installations cause the meter to go in reverse if you are generating more than you are using.
    7. If a meter is replaced you would have to be advised as your power would have to be disconnected and you would have to be given a meter reading before and after the changeover.

  • Just a note: They can't simply change estimated reads to actual reads as estimated reads are calculated based on consumption history via systems. If read is estimated, it must have read reason as to why it was estimated. This information goes back to AEMO as well so its not easy convert reads from E to A or A to E.

    • Photo can be found on the Facebook complaint, which they've now hidden without the direct link.

      https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155320935088619&id=6…

      They've confirmed my read was correct after their read, and put it down to a faulty meter going backwards. The property has never had solar power, and definitely wasn't installed in the 4 days between their read and mine. Someone else told us it's possible with Solar PV, but in other cases they've never heard of it and can't see how it's possible

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