Parking Fine - Incorrect Offence on Ticket

Ljermy on 05/08/2017 - 18:27

Basically I parked my car in a car park, without realising they had installed ticket machines since I've last parked there - so I didn't realise to get one (irrelevant but I knew it used to have a 3h limit, now it's first 3h free but you need a ticket). When I returned to my car, there was a ticket issued with the offence 83588 'Stop in restricted parking area'.

Having looked it up online, I don't believe I have committed that offence - I parked in a regular parking bay, within the boundaries, and there were no markings or signage to indicate that it's a restricted parking area.

  1. Wouldn't the correct offence be something more like 'failure to display valid ticket'?
  2. Does the ticket still stand if it's got the incorrect offence listed?
    • I have requested a review, with photos showing my car not in a restricted parking area. I received a response, saying the fine stands however their reason was some generic copy/paste and didn't actually address the offence they've booked me for.

Thankfully I can pay the fine if I need but was wondering if there's any chance I'm able to get away with it due to their mistake?

If anyone knows anything or has had experience with something like this, your help is greatly appreciated!!

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Comments

  • xoom on 05/08/2017 - 18:38

    ticket issued with the offence 83588 'Stop in restricted parking area'.

    Wouldn't the correct offence be something more like 'failure to display valid ticket'?

    Well you did stop in a restricted parking area by not having a valid ticket. You can contest either if you did have a valid parking ticket. so don't see the point contesting it since you clearly don't.

  • Olokun on 05/08/2017 - 18:42

    First you need to determine if you where issued a parking infringment notice or a request for liquidated damages. Who issued the 'fine'?

    • D C on 05/08/2017 - 20:08

      Follow the money instead.

      Who are you suppose to send the money to? All government fines go to the SDRO. Private operator 'breach of contract' payments won't.

  • whooah1979 on 05/08/2017 - 19:37

    83588

    that's a funny code.
    https://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/regulations/2000-310.pdf

  • whooah1979 on 05/08/2017 - 19:42

    I have requested a review, with photos showing my car not in a restricted parking area.

    do you know what a "restricted parking area" means?
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_reg/rr2014104/…

    (2) A
    "restricted parking area" is an area with:
    (a) a restricted parking area sign on each road into the area, and
    (b) an end restricted parking area sign on each road out of the area.

    • altomic on 05/08/2017 - 20:09

      a parking area with restrictions?

      • whooah1979 on 05/08/2017 - 20:13

        a parking area with restrictions?

        op is confused. op parked in car park.

        • altomic on 05/08/2017 - 20:16
          +2

          a park with slides and swings for cars?

  • Tee Rex Arms on 05/08/2017 - 21:11
    +2

    Why can't people just accept responsibility for their actions these days. The fine would possibly be waived and re-issued with the correct infringement code and penalty that applies.

    • caferider on 06/08/2017 - 10:50
      -1

      Op, please note this as stated above . If the offense has been committed, it is complete regardless if the fine code is incorrect.

      Assume you got a speeding ticket and the officer wrote the wrong code on it and you brought it to their attention, all that would happen is , the original would be withdrawn and a correct one written out to you and a letter telling what happened!!!

      Believe me because I've been a local laws officer and a cop!

      • whooah1979 on 06/08/2017 - 12:19

        Believe me because I've been a local laws officer and a cop!

        is there a difference between a leo and a cop?

    • outlander on 06/08/2017 - 10:57
      -1

      If we're going to start pushing responsibility, can we please start with responsibility to people and not faceless parking companies?

  • Randxyz123 on 05/08/2017 - 21:45

    Basically I parked my car in a car park, without realising they had installed ticket machines since I've last parked there - so I didn't realise to get one (irrelevant but I knew it used to have a 3h limit, now it's first 3h free but you need a ticket).

    Is this a recent, by recent I mean last 3 months change? If so you could try explaining what happened.

    When I returned to my car, there was a ticket issued with the offence 83588 'Stop in restricted parking area'.

    Having looked it up online, I don't believe I have committed that offence - I parked in a regular parking bay, within the boundaries, and there were no markings or signage to indicate that it's a restricted parking area.

    Is there a sign that says "3P TICKET"?

    In that case it is technically a restricted area. It has a 3H limit meaning it is restricting you to 3 hours of parking.

    Someone above has done the hard yard and googled it for you so I won't repeat them… I do think that car parks that make you get a ticket to park for free is a waste of paper and time and effort.

    Thankfully I can pay the fine if I need but was wondering if there's any chance I'm able to get away with it due to their mistake?

    What mistake? They issued the correct ticket.

    I wouldn't have written in before posting on here. I'd have written in explaining at the date I was last at the shopping centre. Something like "I did not need a ticket(hopefully this was within the last 6 months). This was changed recently and therefore was wondering if there was any chance the ticket could be waived on this occasion. I do understand that it is my responsibility to check the restrictions and will be more cautious in the future.

    If the car park is badly signed I think you could appeal it again but if you just weren't paying attention that day there's no point wasting your time.

    • D C on 05/08/2017 - 22:05

      I do think that car parks that make you get a ticket to park for free is a waste of paper and time and effort.

      Shopping centres don't.

      They don't want you to park there all day (eg commuters) so other people can and spend their hard earned cash on whatever crap the shops are flogging.

      The ticket just makes enforcement easier - no ticket = fine.

      • caferider on 06/08/2017 - 10:52

        Agree about ticket and fine, it's easier than chalking tyres!! 😜

  • Baron-K on 06/08/2017 - 01:09
    +1

    Why don't you ask your local friendly and free Artificial Intelligence Robot lawyer at http://disputeit.org, welcome to the future.

  • Rupture on 06/08/2017 - 10:31
    +1

    Sounds like a private car park 'fine'. If So, ignore it and it will go away, despite their numerous threats of court action.

    • caferider on 06/08/2017 - 10:53

      Wrong advice !

      Councils also have a contract with car parks to enforce restrictions… find out who issued the ticket !

      • Rupture on 06/08/2017 - 16:24

        It really doesn't take much to figure out who issued the ticket. Obviously my advice was based with that knowledge in mind. My own experience relates to 'Care' private car parking of which I received a ticket and promptly ignored their replies over a 2 year period by which time they stopped coming.

  • HeWhoKnows on 06/08/2017 - 13:07

    OMG. What a load of BS! You parked in a parking area without obtaining a ticket. You admitted this. Just pay the fine and leave us alone. This is a total waste of OBs time.

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