Average Full Time Wage in Western Australia as Q2 2016: $88,327 Really?

Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 11:45
Last edited 21/08/2017 - 12:06 by 1 other user

Came across this article, says Average Full Time Wage in Western Australia as second quarter of 2016 is: $88327

https://www.livingin-australia.com/salaries-australia/

I work in Retail which is one of the lowest industry, I am currently getting $34598 a year working 35 hours a week. I have been trying to saving money for a deposit for a house but at the moment I am only manage to save around $5000 a year after all expenses. Although I have friends that are highly paid, which is in IT and Banks, they are only low to medium level employee so the most I know is around $70000. No one I know cracks $80000 as far as I know.

So to see the average wage in Western Australia been $88327 is a bit of surprise to me.

What other industries can earn some decent money without needing some special skills? (a good friend was making close to $75000 a year at Crown dealing but he was recently let go, now he is gone back to Singapore to look for work as he cant find anything in Perth at the moment)

Thoughts? Anyone?

One thing to add: I did have some face to face interviews and some phone interviews with some good companies but I was not hired on all occasions. A friend thinks because of this: http://www.smh.com.au/small-business/managing/work-in-progre… <———— I am not sure, what your thoughts?

Poll Options

  • 92
    Yeap I earn about that much!
  • 134
    Nah! Dont believe what the governments are saying
  • 61
    Change to a different industry or find a second job
  • 44
    You are screwed if you staying in Perth
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        • abb on 22/08/2017 - 09:33
          +2

          I'm interested to know too. I know a bunch of stuff about everything from transistors to web servers, but have no security-specific qualifications to get a foot in that door.

          There are some free courses here, but I haven't had time to do any so can't personally comment on the quality: http://www.opensecuritytraining.info/

        • ThadtheChad on 22/08/2017 - 10:44
          +6

          @abb:

          [@trishmapow]:

          I mostly have experience with penetration testing, so my advice below pertains to that.

          Typically having some development and/or sysadmin/networkadmin type roles would be an ideal starting point. A CS degree would also be very beneficial (to get past overarching business hiring requirements).

          After this, put in a bit of time to get well acquainted with the following:
          1. Web application security
          2. Windows and Linux security fundamentals.
          3. x86 assembly (don't have to be a pro, just very comfortable with debugging etc)
          4. Mobile app security.
          5. A rock solid foundation of networking (CCNA/self-study is quite useful if you're looking for courses).
          6. Be comfortable with atleast one scripting language, and try to build something (doesn't matter if it seems silly).

          Eventually you'll be learning a metric shit-ton to build upon these fundamentals. If there is one cert I'd recommend (especially when self-funded) it would be OSCP. This is something that every pentester needs in their repertoire (and is a whole lot of fun).

          One thing I cannot recommend enough is networking. There are quite a few really bright people in Info-sec in Australia, and many have gone on to do amazing things at a global level. This is also how you get your foot in the door.

          So, to start off, attend a few security meetups like:
          Sydney: Platypus Initiative https://letsjusthackshit.org/
          Brissy: CrikeyCon https://www.crikeycon.com/
          Melb: RuxCon https://ruxcon.org.au/
          Perth: WAHCKON https://wahckon.org.au/

          Over time you'll keep seeing the same faces over and over again, which will help build friendships and careers. :)

          Let me know if you guys have any more questions. Always happy to help.

        • Untameable on 22/08/2017 - 11:38

          CEH. SANS. Offensive Security. There's a whole bunch.

        • ThadtheChad on 22/08/2017 - 11:55
          +2

          @DoctorOwl:

          My 2c re the above:

          CEH: actually attracts a lot of disdain. IMHO, I reckon there's plenty of free stuff out there that can easily cover off all the topics in CEH (to a much greater detail). Hacking Exposed series comes to mind.

          SANS: A big no-no if self-funded. Course+cert will easily cost about 9K each. A grand for renewing the cert every (4 years IIRC). That said, the tech ones are really good. From technical security perspective, the following SANS courses/certs are highly regarded:
          SEC560 (GPEN: basic network pentesting),
          SEC508 (GCFA: advanced forensics),
          SEC610 (GREM: malware reverse engineering),
          SEC660 (GXPN: advanced pentesting),
          SEC760 (no cert; advanced exploit dev).

          Offsec: OSCP is a must have and very reasonably priced as well. I paid for it myself when I was working as a grad in an unrelated domain. OSCE is very specific and is only worthwhile if you're doing exploit dev (and requires a decent bit of existing knowledge). Rest are only available as bootcamp style courses during Blackhat.

          Edit: fixed formatting and grammar

        • cnrmlj on 22/08/2017 - 15:24
          -1

          By not referring to it as CS

        • abb on 22/08/2017 - 16:58

          @gearhead: Great reply, thanks. Are you in Sydney? Might see you at the upcoming Platypus camp if so.

        • ThadtheChad on 22/08/2017 - 22:19

          @abb:

          Sure thing mate. Although I just saw the venue for this year… the bleedin tards are holding it right in the middle of bumfk nowhere (bent's basin campgrounds). Will have to check out accommodation options. :)

          On a side note, some of my colleagues are definitely going to attend, so in the event I'm unable to attend, shoot me a PM and I'll point you to some of the chaps (just in case you're apprehensive about breaking the ice).

    • brokenxsmile on 22/08/2017 - 07:58

      State Government / public policy.

    • lddv04 on 22/08/2017 - 08:41

      Risk Management in the Victorian Health Sector

    • BartholemewH on 22/08/2017 - 23:15

      In house accountant for a Small/Medium Enterprise. Even on 100+, I don't see anyone living lavishly unless their partner is on the same.

    • PaperplaneXXX on 23/08/2017 - 16:14

      Service Engineer, Food Industry.
      Lab instrumentation and X Rays

    • gezza90 on 23/08/2017 - 18:31

      Sydney - Multi-disciplinary systems engineering (not IT)

    • Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 13:03

      Pretty sure this is an 6 year old article

  • toniyellow on 21/08/2017 - 13:02
    +3

    The average in WA was still around that in May 2017
    http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Latestproducts/6302.…

    Can't find the median wage from a quick look. It would be nice if the ABS website were a bit more user friendly so people had the ability to easily question things they read on the internet… I guess that is not a government priority

    There is a median income in the census, which is way lower
    http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/census_services/getproduct/…

    but that is for all persons 15 and over, and the first is only of employed adults, so as well as one being the average and the other being the median, they aren't comparing the same population, but gives you a different ballpark to compare yourself in

    • Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 13:05

      Some good info there for sure.

  • Almost Banned on 21/08/2017 - 13:04
    +1

    I'm in Perth and earn a bit above that so I guess I'm pushing the average up a bit.
    That said, I wouldn't recommend either Perth or my industry to others.

  • Lando on 21/08/2017 - 13:04
    +2

    Lots of mates work in oil and gas and earn 100K+ in WA.

    Engineers, project managers, managers, scientists etc.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 13:06
      +1

      Oh, it's good to see there are still jobs in those industry

  • teacherer on 21/08/2017 - 13:21

    Any mining out there to drive up the average?

  • Trying2SaveABuck on 21/08/2017 - 13:46

    You might not like what im going to say but….

    Im telling honestly 88k is nothing (im from melbourne where the average i think is 81k pa) but in all honesty anything under 120k is a shit wage in melbourne considering how expensive housing, bills and taxes are.

    I cant speak for Perth but I hear its more expensive to live but houses are far cheaper so it might be different.

    I am not a 'high income earner' but in all honesty you either need to change industries, go back to uni or work double you hours

    If you aren't making at least the average Australian Salary then you probably need to change

    • Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 17:32

      Well when I was young I chosen my passion instead of followed the money so I did Art Degree. My friend is a lot smart as he chosen chemistry even though he hated it. Now he works in a big company working part time and earns around $75k for very limited hours.

      • Trying2SaveABuck on 21/08/2017 - 18:48
        +16

        You got sucked into an arts degree you poor bastard

        • imnotarobot on 21/08/2017 - 20:10
          +4

          I got a diploma in arts, work in the industry I studied and earn 90k PA, probably only work a 30-35hr week.
          Arts degrees aren't always rubbish.
          I'm a rare case though, at least in my field…

        • bobbified on 21/08/2017 - 20:23
          +2

          I never understood where an Arts degree could take someone!

          As in, where can a person with an Arts degree go that a person without an Arts degree can't?

          (Hope I'm not sounding ignorant because I didn't go to uni so I really don't know!)

        • Trying2SaveABuck on 21/08/2017 - 21:00
          +5

          @imnotarobot:

          Credit too you!

          Everyone i met that has finished Arts ended up no where i remember in my 1st year of uni has a bloke that worked at Coles with me (at the time) he finished arts couldn't get a job did a masters of cinema studies ended up full time in the dairy section.

        • Scrooge McDuck on 21/08/2017 - 22:11
          +4

          @bobbified:

          As in, where can a person with an Arts degree go that a person without an Arts degree can't?

          Certain establishments in Newtown apparently.

        • bobbified on 21/08/2017 - 22:14

          @Scrooge McDuck:

          LOL!! they the ones on the street in hippie pants?

        • Scrooge McDuck on 21/08/2017 - 22:16
          +3

          @bobbified:

          Blankets and sleeping bags mostly.

        • Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 23:10

          @bobbified: No you are not been ignorant, its a valid thought

        • Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 23:11

          @imnotarobot: Glad to see you are able to find something above the average. Can I ask what is that you do?

        • Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 23:12

          @Pastry: He could have just worked in the dairy section to begin with. Too bad I realised it too late also

        • Aerith-Waifu on 22/08/2017 - 00:07

          Like I said, followed my passion…….got burned badly after……..lol

        • kiitos on 22/08/2017 - 12:36

          @imnotarobot:

          Well done! What sort of industry/role are you in?

        • Cliche Guevara on 22/08/2017 - 13:36

          @bobbified:

          As in, where can a person with an Arts degree go that a person without an Arts degree can't?

          Curator of an art gallery
          High school teacher specialising in CAPA

        • ThadtheChad on 22/08/2017 - 13:45

          @kiwigene:

          What's CAPA? Apologies, haven't done my schooling in Australia so am not familiar with the term.

        • Cliche Guevara on 22/08/2017 - 13:47
          +1

          @gearhead: Creative and Performing Arts (i.e. visual arts, photography, drama, music etc).

        • bobbified on 22/08/2017 - 14:04

          @kiwigene:

          High school teacher specialising in CAPA

          Wouldn't you still need a separate teaching qualification for this?

          Being a teacher of something doesn't really mean much.

          It reminds me of the scams where you pay to go to a "money making" seminar where you buy a ticket to attend, then they teach you to scam people by holding your own seminar and charging attendees… and the cycle goes on.

        • imnotarobot on 22/08/2017 - 15:27

          @house2015:
          I'm a photographer working for a national company

        • imnotarobot on 22/08/2017 - 15:29

          @kiitos:
          I'm a photographer working for a national company

        • Cliche Guevara on 22/08/2017 - 16:05
          +1

          @bobbified:

          Ok, so you really are showing your ignorance. And you are insulting many people by saying:

          Being a teacher of something doesn't really mean much.

          Being a teacher is nothing like a scam - not all teachers just teach people to become other teachers…
          And I'm not sure how this fits in with your original question:

          As in, where can a person with an Arts degree go that a person without an Arts degree can't?

          And I answered it directly.

          In terms of qualifications you can have as a high school teacher, you can do a Bachelor of Education.
          But many teachers have done a different degree (such as Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science) and then do a Diploma of Education.
          Which means they would usually specialise in those areas they trained in.

        • BartholemewH on 22/08/2017 - 23:31

          @Pastry:
          Cinema studies is a poor choice in particular imo, even amongst art graduates.They tend to enjoy watching films, are writing their own scripts for 10+ years (never to be finished) and have an artsy view where "regular" people earning 100k "just don't get it".

        • bobbified on 23/08/2017 - 09:04

          @kiwigene:

          Being a teacher of something doesn't really mean much.

          My bad - I was meant to say that being a teacher of something useless doesn't mean anything.

          Useless may be a harsh word but there's truth in it if you look at it practically and relative to general expectations of attending university.

          And I'm not saying that being a teacher is a scam profession because it's definitely not.

          It's just that studying arts and then teaching arts is like a perpetual cycle. Not many seem to be able to find a practical use for their Arts degree - and if they become an Arts teacher, the cycle just keeps going.

          Apologies if I offended anyone by the use of the word scam - I couldn't think of anything else when I was writing the comment yesterday to compare it to - the scam I mentioned is the first thing that popped in my mind. It goes around in circles and what the people are taught is pretty much useless - and then they go on to teach others the same thing.

          Yes, there are people who enjoy Arts and knowingly study it - but this is OzB where everyone expects/hopes to end up with a decent salary after spending years at a university and having to pay off their uni fees. Some people think that a degree is a degree and don't realise that certain degrees don't really help them at all. By the time they do realise, it's often too late. Few years gone and a huge HECs debt.

          Univ of Sydney and NSW both (and I'm sure there are many other unis) offer "Woman and Gender Studies" courses (or similar) - I'm not sure if the students in the course have actually thought about what they want to do after they finish or how that degree will actually help them.

        • mskeggs on 24/08/2017 - 19:12

          @bobbified:
          An Arts degree isn't usually anything to do with art, but rather what used to be called a classical education.
          You learn a bunch of different things, potentially things like English literature, or history, or Psychology. The general rule of thumb is arts courses are evaluated with essays, science courses with maths style exams.

          An arts grad will, hopefully, be very comfortable with written and spoken language, be an expert in synthesising ideas into summaries, presenting arguments, persuasive writing. The idea of 3 years of practice doing this and learning techniques to manipulate and evaluate ideas will result in a grad who can apply these strategies broadly and effectively in other settings like a job.

          I don't have an arts degree, but I think it is an effective qualification for a bunch of office jobs.

        • bobbified on 25/08/2017 - 10:00

          @mskeggs:
          Thanks for that explanation!

          It sounds like most of the practical skills/knowledge from the course is something that some people would naturally already have or can learn along the way when they're already in a job - if that job requires it.

          Given that, I'd say that Arts would be a course in which someone would probably want to take in conjunction with another more specialised course to prepare them for the job/industry they want to get in.

        • mskeggs on 25/08/2017 - 10:51

          @bobbified:
          Maybe, but the advantage versus a school leaver is that the graduate has already developed sophisticated skills that can be applied immediately to a employers business, and they can begin learning the specifics of the business straight away.
          Trying to get a school leaver to the same level of sophistication could take a couple of years.
          Of course, you would expect to have to pay less for a school leaver, and most jobs don't require high level analysis.
          On the other hand, as jobs get more senior, lazy recruiters use short cuts to get to a manageable short list of applicants. One common one is "relevant degree".
          If you are applying for a job as a manager, your experience is likely to be much more relevant than a uni qualification, but I think the recruiters take the view that most quality applicants will be degree qualified.
          Note also, you can study stuff like economics, Chinese, education or other things that would be explicitly relevant for some businesses. Where if I, for example, study architecture and later want to get a job in health administration, my degree wouldn't be very applicable.
          So vocational degrees aren't necessarily a panacea.

      • Hamlet on 22/08/2017 - 17:58

        Well mate, whatever happened to the passion? Why arent you pursuing it further? It's not passion if you're already complaining about it a couple years out of uni…

        Also, keep in mind that the satisfaction from more money decreases the more money you have — If you are starving to death, earning more money dramatically improves happiness. Once you’re assured that you will not be starving to death due to limited financial resources, you hit a point of diminishing returns on earning a better and better living.

        You can take my advice or just treat me like another Arts graduate who's made peace with the idea that I would probably never be rich (earning more than $120k/y) :/

      • itstuan on 23/08/2017 - 08:18

        most of us got screwed with low wages jobs because the education system brainwashed us. The people who make the top are the one follow their instinct

        • Hamlet on 23/08/2017 - 17:46

          Could you elaborate on that further? I think I'm still being brainwashed…. please enlighten me

        • itstuan on 23/08/2017 - 20:26
          +1

          @Hamlet: we spend many years in school, taught by the people who just getting by, lots of what we learn is useless and not practical in real life, then finish school and another 3-4 years in university. Finish university, trying to get a job. Got a job and realise we're only get paid half of what a trams/train drivers, who only spend 3-6 months in training (btw, their average salary is $90K)

    • Untameable on 22/08/2017 - 11:33
      +1

      I agree - you're not being mean. If you want a house you need about $100k+ to be able to save up the 10% odd deposit in a couple years and even then you want a second part time income for safety purposes when you're between changing jobs, which happens often.

      I know lots of poor Centrelink people live on less but they're in dire straights. The days of living on $40k are over (unless you own your own house already).

      • Trying2SaveABuck on 22/08/2017 - 11:53

        Thats 100% Doctorowl - If you own your property outright and are happy with it for the rest of your life then it is a different story but getting to that point is very difficult if you arent in the right side of the salary bell curve.

  • railspider on 21/08/2017 - 14:15
    +20

    anything under 120k is a shit wage in melbourne

    The vast majority of the city must be on a shit wage then

    If you aren't making at least the average Australian Salary then you probably need to change

    More than half of all workers will always earn less than the average (since super-high salaries skew the distribution to the right), so this is impossible to follow 'advice'.

    • mskeggs on 21/08/2017 - 14:26
      +7

      I understand and agree with your points, but it is also very true that capital cities have considerably higher incomes than regional areas, so it is also reasonable to make the original comment, that if you are living in a capital city a 'good' wage will be higher than the national average wage.
      E.g. these a little older stats showing the most common incomes in VIC were $70k in Melbourne and $42k in the regional areas.
      http://censusstats.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/the-cities-vs-reg…

    • Trying2SaveABuck on 21/08/2017 - 15:15
      +2

      The average household in Australia needs just 50k for the basics http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/average-family-nee…

      so assuming you want to actually have a bit of a life and be better then the BASICs ie go on a holiday annually, send your kids to a school that is semi-decent, drive a car that is from this decade, eat something other then beans and rice daily etc Simply making the average isn't enough to live comfortably which if the system was fair(er) we all could.

      On top of that you need to save you retirement considering there is a real possibility that the pension wont be around or at least enough to live off especially if you're renting or still paying off a house when you hit retirement - because lets be honest if you are renting or paying a house off now and you're on the pension NOW life is tough so in 20, 40, 60 years this will only get worse (dont think that is too much of a big call to make)

      I dont think my statement is invalid? maybe i should of said house hold income of 120k but otherwise it still rings true for most Australians further evidence that the government if failing the majority of society with low wage growth and high immigration pushing up house prices and the cost of living though unsustainable growth.

      That also doesnt take into consideration health insurance, an possible misfortunes that might leave you not working for a prolonged period of time, further increases in cost of living etc

      Politicians give themselves a retirement package that works out around 2.2k a week (i got no source SORRY) because they know what the real cost of living is but the difference is they dont give a f*** if you are struggling as long as they can take there helicopter rides.

      Regardless if you can follow my advice or not that is the country we live in and the way the world is going.

      • harkoliar on 22/08/2017 - 09:10

        Average household, I'm assuming takes into account both partners wages/dole ?

        • Trying2SaveABuck on 22/08/2017 - 09:20
          +1

          yeah of course

          if you make more then $400 a week i dont think you get the doll?

      • [Deactivated] on 23/08/2017 - 20:57

        And let's give this family a $1mil mortgage to fund the median Sydney house price of about $1.1mil.

        Repayments on $1mil come out to $5,000/month, which then gives them -$10,000 per year, before other property expenses and other luxuries …like food and clothing.

        • Trying2SaveABuck on 23/08/2017 - 21:10

          Sydney is ridiculous i keep saying Melbourne is bad but i always forget Sydney is worse

  • rompastompa on 21/08/2017 - 15:04

    Man, I need some of that internet monies.

  • Froot Loops on 21/08/2017 - 15:20
    +2

    5 year uni degree and I could only dream of that wage (in Australia anyways).

    • Trying2SaveABuck on 21/08/2017 - 15:31

      If you're a Pharmacist assuming you have at least a 5 years experience and not making 95k+ then you need to change jobs

      • Froot Loops on 21/08/2017 - 15:35
        +3

        I'm less than 5 years experience, but wages have gone to hell in our industry. They hasn't been a average pay increase in over 5 years, with now a decline. Chemist warehouse keep lobbying for more wage cuts.
        I mean our min wage is now $26 an hour. So $33 an hour is just what I'm stuck with until I leave for Norway

        • Trying2SaveABuck on 21/08/2017 - 15:54
          +1

          You're getting ripped off man go work public it would be better then that and public isnt even that well paying Assuming you have at least 2 years experience i wouldnt settle for any less then $37-38 per hour.

          But if you get a couple years i dont know anyone making less then $41 per hour

          the 1st two years in any health profession is shit but after that you need to have the balls to find something that pays you what your worth!

        • Chumpmaster on 22/08/2017 - 05:25

          @Pastry: are you a pharmacist?

        • Trying2SaveABuck on 22/08/2017 - 08:25

          @Chumpmaster: Physio so technically you are on a better award (Victoria) by like $2-3 an hour

  • ihbh on 21/08/2017 - 16:22
    +1

    People earning 200k+ or even 100k+ are unlikely to just work 9 to 5. For example, my neighbour drives to the station at 6.45am and gets home around 7pm.

    Also, the more hours you work, the more the marginal pay for each needs to be to make it worthwhile.

    • stratbargain on 21/08/2017 - 17:21
      +12

      I earn somewhere in that bracket and I can't remember the last time I worked 9 to 5.

      Get in around 9, have a coffee till about 9:45 check my emails between 9:45 - 11:00. Solve some crisis before 12. Have lunch from 12. Sit through a boring meeting from 1 till 2, start thinking about leaving to beat the afternoon traffic and home by 4. Monitor emails on phone till 6 while cooking dinner and cleaning the house.

      I know plenty of people in a similar situation too.

      • anthem29 on 21/08/2017 - 17:23
        +18

        humblebrag

        • abb on 22/08/2017 - 09:36
          +6

          I must have missed the humble part…

      • Grish on 21/08/2017 - 18:02
        +1

        Typical public servant, rorting honest taxpaying Aussies.

        • Scrooge McDuck on 21/08/2017 - 22:20
          +5

          Hey! Those photocopiers don't jam themselves you know!!

      • Trying2SaveABuck on 21/08/2017 - 18:50

        What job/company is this and where do I sign up?

        • stratbargain on 21/08/2017 - 18:53
          +6

          Private Sector.

          And I must insist it wasn't a brag. I know plenty of people in similar roles. The work they do is specialised and backed with years of training/knowledge. They bring in plenty of money to the business and work when it's required. But it does not require 12+ hour days which seems to be some peoples perception of anyone in the 150k+ pay bracket.

          If you're working constant 60+ hour weeks in any industry and not getting paid overtime, you're getting taken advantage of in my opinion.

        • Trying2SaveABuck on 21/08/2017 - 18:54
          +3

          @stratbargain: Good on you!

          People hating on you are just jelly and people arent hating on you (like me) are also probably jelly bahahaha

        • ihbh on 21/08/2017 - 19:21

          @stratbargain: To clarify. I mean $250k+ which includes a sizeable bonus component. Obviously the people below that aspire to get to that level and work hard as well. The 10-12 hour days are usually reserved for general managers that earn $300k+

        • Trying2SaveABuck on 21/08/2017 - 21:03

          @ihbh: The CEO at my work does fu** all and im sure he is on a base of 300k plus bonuses i work in the public sector though and it is true anyone who isnt a actually worker does f*** all and gets paid way to much ie my CEO

          I honestly get in before he does and leave most days later

        • Powershopz on 22/08/2017 - 08:59
          +2

          @stratbargain:

          I've seen this too across various industries (finance, hospitality, marketing). Seeing people with below satisfactory skills/borderline incompetent with a lazy work ethic on 90-140K. It boggles my mind how they got the job in the first place. Made me realise bullshitting and being a smooth talker can get you pretty far.

        • harkoliar on 22/08/2017 - 09:12

          @Powershopz: seen it and I agree.

        • Aerith-Waifu on 22/08/2017 - 15:22

          @Pastry: pretty sure they did their hard work when they are younger to be in a position they are in now

        • Trying2SaveABuck on 22/08/2017 - 19:36
          +3

          @house2015: Blokes mates with 3 people on the board that hired him, has no experience in the industry, and has never been a CEO before or even close im pretty sure you don't know what you are talking about.

          On top of that he has sacked all the managers and hired a bunch of his mates who also haven't worked in this industry before, who have lost a lot of tax payer money but you know its a government organisation so no one cares….The worst part is the 1st people that the board approved to sack where the ones questioning his appointment and credentials….wonder why….

          Most people who say they worked hard to get to positions are talking shit it is a lot of knifing and bullshit talking
          the ones who work hard actually get little credit for it especially in government jobs because of the levels of corruption

          Part of me wants to go to the anti corruption government agency but what is the point?

      • abb on 22/08/2017 - 09:37

        Can I have a job? I don't drink coffee so I can probably half solve that crisis for you while you're still relaxing :)

    • bobbified on 21/08/2017 - 20:27

      Not bragging, but I'm in there and I generally work 9-4. However, most days are quite hellish and it comes with a lot of responsibility.

    • Brianqpr on 22/08/2017 - 10:27

      I'm on around $125k and do work pretty much 9 to 5 with a day a week working from home. However, If I want to step up from this I would have to give up more family/leisure time and the trade off doesn't work for me.

    • aragornelessar on 26/08/2017 - 00:14

      If you're in Sydney, you could simply be doing leaving at 7am and getting home at 7am due to the fact you can only afford to buy a place 2 hr commute from the CBD!

  • d39833 on 21/08/2017 - 16:37

    I started off as a geoscientist working 9-5, deskjob 113k p.a.

    • d39833 on 21/08/2017 - 16:38

      Oil & Gas. but 90% of the people in my industry are unemployed atm

  • tsunamisurfer on 21/08/2017 - 17:55

    AWOTE is $1,5430.80 so an average wage of $88k is not unreasonable.

    https://eac.csc.gov.au/your-toolkit/current-awote-rates/

    The boom in WA had a big impact on people's lives directly and indirectly.

    People in the state became flushed with money and started to compete with each other for properties.

    For those who rode the wave of the good times, it would have been a great ride, companies outbidding each other for staff or to retain staff. Even those not in the industry also felt the benefit as wages grew with increased competition.

  • Baa on 21/08/2017 - 18:06
    +2

    Live in WA, wife and I both earn above average. Do I feel like my quality of life is any different now as to when we were starting out earnings sub $40k each? Not particularly except having a mortgage and more (largely unnecessary) stuff.

    Wife is in banking
    I work in IT (consulting)

    Both of us worked up the positions were are in now without any prior qualifications, however I don't think that would be easy now as it was gradually over the past 10 years. The wife has noticed for example entry positions in the banking industry are declining, with less on the ground people and branches required (particularly in WA)
    and more focus being placed on the eastern states.

    I don't think there is an easy 'get a high paying job with little or no skills' that has not been mentioned in the posts above.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 18:11
      +1

      Very much agree on this one. Happy to be working in a bank or other industry with potential to earn more as times goes by. But at the moment there is no opportunity in Perth. Which is kind of frustrating

      • Hardlyworkin on 21/08/2017 - 19:08
        +1

        When was the last time you took a big risk rather than putting up with the same situation? Leave Perth, quit your job, study….. Do something to change things up otherwise you will wake up in 10 years and nothing has changed. Even if you stay in retail start the process to get a management position if you don't see an alternative.

        • Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 22:28

          Not a big risk taker as there is just not enough jobs in Perth at the moment. I am afraid if I quit before moving east I will lose all the money I have saved over the years. But you are right, need to do something about this. Decisions decisions……..

  • centrelink on 21/08/2017 - 19:37
    +4

    It's funny because I make 6 figures and I don't even have a job.

    In before someone makes a witty comment on my username

    • Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 22:35
      +1

      Are you joking or are you serious?

  • Mrgreenz on 21/08/2017 - 20:28
    +1

    I live in Perth and work in construction.

    Per hour metro work

    Labourer 30-33 ish
    Carpenter/formworker 33-36 ish
    Leading hand 36-40 ish

    Double time after 10 hrs
    Double time sat and sun

    Small sample size

    • Aerith-Waifu on 21/08/2017 - 22:17

      How do you get a construction job? Seek doesnt give much.

      • Mrgreenz on 21/08/2017 - 23:40

        MR licence

        Any other licences would be handy

        Be able do do repetetive tasks
        Reasonable strength

        Maybe contact some labour hire companies

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