Car Speeding at 100kph at 8.20am in Front of a before School Care, Should I Report?

Dear all

I dropped my daughter this morning at the before school care. I was parked across the road, and on my way back to my car, a sport car was literally racing in the street. My estimation of the speed is about 100kph (for real).

Fate being as it is, I met the driver 5 min later when I went to the shops. He was parked and in his car, and I took a picture of both the driver and the car.

Should I report to the police? If not, what should I do?

I am not happy to let it go, I am worried for my kid (and the other kids), we cross that road almost every day at the same hour.

Thanks

Comments

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    If you were so concerned, why didn't you discuss it the the driver?
    What is the speed limit at that time in the morning?

    • +5 votes

      Not 100

    • +2 votes

      7-9am 40kph Limit, lose of license, car impounded.

      • +1 vote

        It's 0800 to 0930 in nsw.

        • +1 vote

          OP is stating that it is NOT a school zone.

          I'll ask if it possible to have the area classified as "school zone".

    • +32 votes

      why didn't you discuss it with the driver?

      Exactly! Someone who drives through school zones at 100km is surely a very reasonable person who would willingly listen to what a complete stranger has to say about their driving. There wouldn't be any danger to the OP by telling them off - it could only end well.

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        No need for a "telling them off". Just say that you have heard that police may be monitoring the school zone as there has been complaints about speeding.

        A bit like flashing your headlights to warn about non existent police speed trap.

        They may even thank you for the tip off.

        Or just post on Australia's favourite bargain site.

      • +15 votes

        Regardless, they would have been less likely to do it again as they got called out for it by a member of the public.

        That's true…in a perfect world:
        OP: "You were driving too fast in that school zone, please slow down."
        Offender: "Thanks for letting me know, random stranger. I'll change my behavior immediately."

        Meanwhile, here in the real world:
        OP: "You were driving too fast in that school zone, please slow down."
        Offender: "[email protected]#% OFF!"
        speeds off down the street faster than before

        I know which one I live in.

    •  

      Who's here in 2019? OP complaining about other drivers when they don't even know how to indicate, don't know how to give way to buses that indicate, cut off others and turn left and can't install a dash cam?

  • +9 votes

    If I were you, I would at least walk into a police station/police beat to see what can be done. I am not normally a vengeful person, but I feel a little outraged. Worse case scenario, police can't do anything about the incident this morning, but they might send a patrol car tomorrow morning to the school.

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      Because it's your word versus the mongrel driver, the Cops will most likely handball it and tell you there is nothing they can do.

  • +2 votes

    100% yes, unfortunately there is nothing the police can do without proof but at least it will be on record if (when?) his mindless driving kills someone.

    I would have found it very difficult not to slap the idiot across the face.

  • +3 votes

    The police will not be able to take any action against that driver.

    If you (or better, the school) call your local police station and let them know that people are speeding around the school during school zone times they might send out a highway patrol car.

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    My estimation of the speed is about 100kph (for real).

    can you provide evidence to the authorities to support this claim?

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        lol, by the time I put my phone out of my pocket to take a video, the car was already at the end of the street.

        •  

          Where have you been?, have you not seen all the car cam deals on this site?.

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          @Nutrino:
          I was walking.

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      No, that's why OP said it was an estimation.

  • +3 votes

    bikies

  • +1 vote

    I gave the driver a piece of my mind, I was so furious…

  • +1 vote

    certainly its wise to alert both school and police to this. Doesn't the school have a lollipop lady controlling a crossing on that road perhaps she saw the incident?

    As/after you gave the driver a serve, what was his response, was he full of excuses, remorseful or told you to get nicked and mind your business type?

    • +1 vote

      He was the narcissist type, I might as well have talked to a wall.

      • +2 votes

        Cool, that means when the police catch him speeding and enforce the hoon laws the loss of car (status symbol) etc will anger,frustrate and hurt.

        Hopefully he gets threatening to the cops and they give him a smack. Please report this and keep us informed if anything further happens

  •  

    you could always go to the crimestoppers website and lodge your thoughts there

    if you remain anon, police will likely do very little - might talk to the driver

    if you give your details, they will probably do more

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    Can you get footage? CCTV, dashcam?

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    https://www1.police.nsw.gov.au/mobile/cs.aspx

    Does your video relate to a traffic offence? Unless the traffic offence is an ongoing or regular occurrence, for police to take action against the driver, police may require you to provide your details.

    Fill it out and see what comes of it

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      Thanks, I filled a report. It is now out of my hands. I am part of the committee of before/after school care where it happened. I know the director, I'll ask if it possible to have the area classified as "school zone". It may dissuade speeding drivers.

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        I'm part of the tough tittie committee

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        I received an email saying that my report wasn't processed as "Police didn't witnessed the infraction"… just great

        • +1 vote

          Complain to council and local MPs and ask them for a response on what they are doing to combat this.

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          @sqeeksqeek:
          I went to Burwood police station. They don't care, they refused for me to fill a report and ask me to call 131 000 instead…

          Contacting the council may be a solution.

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          @isidore12: local councils and state govt will determine speed limits so best bet is to start with council. Good luck!

        • +1 vote

          @isidore12:

          If the douche canoe is doing this on a regular basis and at regular times, it may be easier to set up and wait and record his actions next time, him or any other goomptie that speeds in this section.

          I did the same thing near my daughters school. It was the same tool almost every day treating this certain part of road in front of the school as a short cut/race track. Got video footage over several days and the police were all to happy for me to bring it to their attention.

          In the start when I rang them about it, I got the same story, it's your word against his, we didn't see it. Get some video of it and come back to see us. So I did. And since the police took it up, I have not seen the guy come past at all.

  • -2 votes

    Mayte… itz a car…. Its tuff…

    Ya no Aussie speed limits are too slow!!! (or we are too simple to follow speed limits… pick one).

    Seriously though; I have reported such behaviour before with 0 outcome.

    Don't worry though… if he annihilates another car by running into it. His insurance may OR may not cover it. But don't worry, he can jump in another 1000kg+ machine of death and speed through school zones the same day!!! Because everyone deserves more chances.

    And if he annihilates a human being (cuz cars r tuff) he will only "likely" sent to jail where your tax money can fund his murderous existence. Because everyone deserves a second chance.. (and third….and fourth…. except pedestrians cuz they r shit).

    • +2 votes

      Oh, so now if a car driver kills a person with their car they get jail time. Stark contrast to your comments in the cycling thread where for killing people with your car whilst driving only netted the driver a small fine or they got to drive off after the accident and the police are rarely called.

      And for the record, negligence =/= murderous. For murder, you have to prove a premeditated decision that the driver went out with the intent to kill someone. At best it would be negligent driving causing death, manslaughter at worst.

      Ok, we get it, you're anti-car and very anti-Australian, but if there were no cars and only bikes (as in your ideal utopia.) there would still be speed limits and there would still be arseholes on expensive race bikes going past schools at well above the speed limit. So, get off the "I hate car drivers" bus, put down the pro-cyclist coolaide and stop over exaggerating.

      So, I ask, how does your comment even remotely relate to or help with the question that OP has asked?

      • -1 vote

        I have a fan!!!

        I mean… maybe they get jail time… maybe they dont. Even if they do; many years later they will be out murdering again.

        There was the recent case of someone running over someone who stole thier motorbike and walking free. Guess that shithead had it comming, because he wasnt in a car.

        I dont hate cars; or Australia. I love Australia. Just wondering why so many people are tolerant of people obliterating their countrymen. If i was anti Australian; I would be one of these people making threads about how I broke the law while endangering human lives, asking for sympathy or leniency.

        There are many nations on earth where cars are viewed as simply a utility to get from point a to point b; and people will calmly drive around and not try and maim people.

        Maybe you are right though. Maybe us hard workinh cobbas are always just in the wrong place at the wrong time; and need a fair go… a second go… we are not animals…

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4913752/Young-woman-... - (if we show compassion to the agressor here. Give him a "fair go" or a "second chance"…. just some jail time etc .. are we not actually the primitive animals?)

        I mean road rage…. http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/09/24/12/46/western-sy... what a (profanity) embarrasment many car drivers are just because they lack the tiniest bit of patience.

        • +1 vote

          So, maybe they get jail time, sort of depends on what agenda you're tryin to force this week?

          As for the thief, he had it coming to him because he was a shitbag thief, not because he was a bike rider. Just how much of the car-hater cool aide have you been drinking?

          And please don't make me find and post every single anti-car and anti-Australian comment you have made. It will take me hours to compile all of them into one post.

          And I'm not asking to be right, I'm asking for others to be objective. Contribute in a positive fashion and promotes ideas and advances to a solution. Your comments garner more negative votes than positive, so it's obvious that most of your contributions are seen as negative and unhelpful and biased. It seriously borders on trolling.

          Oh, and just so you know, using tabloid newspapers and TV programs for your pro-whatever it is this week stance is laughable at best. It's propaganda and fear mongering for the sake of selling newspapers and advertising.

          So, again, I will ask, what is your solution to OP's speeding car near a child care centre issue?

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          @pegaxs:

          You can compile post lists if you like man. Its fun. Like an obsession with me now ^^

          Idk what the solution is. But tolerance, understanding, acceptance, "a fair go" or "giving out second chances" is definately failing this country at the moment.

    • +1 vote

      Don't worry though… if he annihilates another car by running into it. His insurance may OR may not cover it. But don't worry, he can jump in another 1000kg+ machine of death and speed through school zones the same day!

      Id like to know which common car is able to annihilate another car, while not sustaining any damage/injury, and is still road worthy. Or are you exaggerating again trump?

      Are you suggesting we need to bring the death penalty back? Big jump from licence suspension on first offence.

      • -1 vote

        Lots of times where a car can run into another; writing it off without the passengers sustaining serious injury, modern cars protect the passengers quite well.

        As mentioned above; "should we impose the death penalty"… Well im not sure… But tolerance, understanding, acceptance, "a fair go" or "giving out second chances" is definately failing this country at the moment.

        How would you protect the children in school zones?

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          As mentioned above; "should we impose the death penalty"… Well im not sure

          From all your comments, you seem very sure on what should happen. Fines, points and jail term is apparently not good enough. People without license and don't care still (can) drive. The only way to stop one from getting into a car (while abiding by your zero tolerance idea) is either death penalty or cutting off their limbs. But with technology, they could be the next robo-man and get behind a wheel again, right? What exactly do you want, what is your perfect solution? What is the point of your constant spamming and whinging in all car related threads?

          Just curious, has anyone ever walked into you or stepped on your toe by accident? Did you feel it was attempted murder?

          How would you protect the children in school zones?

          I've already given my advice to OP. One thing I've learnt in life is that, some things in life can't be changed instantly (eg law and enforcement), you can't control or change others, but you can control and change yourself. Having a green light doesn't always mean it's safe.

        • -1 vote

          @Ughhh:

          I felt when I was ran off the road while cycling… that it was indeed attempted murder.

          When someone bumped me on a motorcycle - attempted murder.

          When someone ran a red and totalled my car - attempted murder.

          Any one of these things could have killed or permanently maimed me; the other party broke laws in order to advantage themselves at the price of others.

          Perhaps I am on the wrong track… And people really are just cobbas trying to get their turn….

          Maybe we should just discuss how to gain leniency for our traffic crimes on ozbargain; with the occasional totally empty thread (complete with a few pro speeding posts from @LFO) about someone speeding through a school zone.

          Then when someone is killed by a car… question the existential reality of that persons existence outside an automobile…

        • +1 vote

          @eggmaster:

          I felt when I was ran off the road while cycling… that it was indeed attempted murder.
          When someone bumped me on a motorcycle - attempted murder.
          When someone ran a red and totalled my car - attempted murder.

          Murder
          Murder—also called homicide—is the wilful killing of a person either intentionally or with reckless indifference to life. However, it does not include dangerous driving causing death—the unlawful killing of a person as a result of dangerous or negligent driving without intent to kill.

          Did those people intentionally ran you off or hit you with their car?

          I find it hard to take you seriously when you exgerate like this (I believe the cops have told you something similar). It does no good to your credibility.

        • +1 vote

          @Ughhh:

          Don't bother replying. Just have a look at eggmaster's comment history, it mainly contains negative voted comments the exude traits of trolling. They take the extreme opposite view just to wind people up.

          They are extremely anti-car and anti-Australian. I'm guessing that the only reason they continue to live in this country and not one of the other "safer" countries they keep mentioning is better than Australia is that the welfare they receive here isn't offered elsewhere.

          They never stick to the topic and deviate and deflect and take extreme views and contradict what they say and change the goal posts without adding anything useful to the conversation or answering OP's question.

          It's simple that their "jail them all and bring back the death sentence for car drivers" isn't having any effect.

        • -1 vote

          @pegaxs:

          I forgot all aussies were born in a car ;)

          Still don't see anything anti Australian… i pay tax, i follow the laws (holy shit i even drive UNDER the speed limit). I am a citizen and even vote.

          I have lived in 4 different countries now. I go where work takes me bro.

        • +2 votes

          @eggmaster:

          you can try and fit it in the proportion of whatever fairytale you may be living in.

          The fairytale where everyone at least is able to comprehend the meaning of "attempted murder" and not alter the meaning to suit their own agenda and (lack of) understanding of basic English. Nice try troll, there's a reason why the cops are ignoring you so much.

  •  

    You could report him but doubt anything will be done as this world exist only to evidence periodically.

  • +2 votes

    Should have smashed his car with a tire iron.

  •  

    Cops won't do shit. He'll deny it and they'll have no evidence to pursue it.

    Even if by some miracle there was evidence, if he can afford a Sports car he might be able to afford a good lawyer who will tell the court some irrelevant sob story or tell the court taking his license and car away would be too disruptive to his life so he'll walk away with nothing more than a finger waggle from the judge.

    Maybe talk with other parents about it and try to explain to your kids at every opportunity how to be safe when crossing roads.

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    Post the pictures on social media with an explanation of what occurred,
    that's the rough justice of today's age

  •  

    Was it a local road or an arterial? Go to council or RMS accordingly and let them know you've seen it. They probably won't do anything, but other people may have seen similar things and might take it further. If it's a council road, they should at least put a tube counter down to get a weeks worth of speed and volume data and might use this to get traffic calming treatments including a school zone. Alternatively, organise your own tube count. A week should only cost a few hundred dollars.

  •  

    Next time have your phone recording video before you even arrive. No fumbling to start it, or else he'd be gone by the time recording starts.

    Also a dashcam. If not yours, that of another concerned parent.

    Police (or anyone) can accurately determine speed by marking the car at certain points and timing A to B. Digital video makes this easier than ever.

  • +2 votes

    You reported it, great. Now everyone, keep reporting them. The numbers will eventually persuade someone to take notice, and then something stronger may get done. Every reported incident is a statistical record that there are traffic related issues with an area/street etc. But it all starts with the one, the first report.

    Just be accurate and don't take the Law into your own hands.

  •  

    Buy a slingshot ,attack with 100km/hr rock or
    the best thing would be a couple of those big robots off RoboCop.
    'YOU HAVE EXCEEDED THE SPEED LIMIT IN A SCHOOL ZONE ,
    EXIT THE CAR WITH YOU'RE ARMS UP ,
    YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS TO COMPLY'

  • +2 votes

    Talk to the school principal about your concerns. The school would probably have more power on the authorities than a regular Joe.

  • -2 votes

    A "busy parent's" vehicle, carelessly reversing and/or going forward, and harming or potentially harming a child or a pedestrian seem more of a concern to me.

    Speed per se does not kill, hitting an body may.

    • +1 vote

      I disagree, speed is a concern due to the time to react and the distance needed to stop the car.

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      The chances of stopping from a slow reversing rolling speed is infinitely better than the guy doing 100km/h. It almost sounds like you were trying to say, "speed doesn't kill, it's the sudden stop at the end."

      What speed has the effect of is reducing reaction times, reducing margin for error and increasing the distance covered for any evasive manoeuvre, ie: braking.

      You can not possibly convince a forum full of people that the person OP refers too speeding down the street is safer than the woman reversing/going forward at less than walking pace. For instance, a child steps out in front of A: speed racer guy, B: pulling out of her parking spot mum. In what situation is the child most likely to be hit and killed and what situation could easily cause damage to other vehicles and potentially kill other bystanders?

    • +1 vote

      Yeah. I'd want to see the stats before I see anything firm, but it sure feels like parents are the most dangerous drivers on the road.

  •  

    Do you have a video of him speeding? If not, the police will just treat it as hearsay.

    I mean anyone can take photo of you and your car at the shops and report you for speeding too.

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    You have exactly zero proof of the speed they were doing, and simply have a still picture of the car and driver. What would you expect the police to do with this information exactly?