Buying Toilet with Good Flushing Function

Gday. We're shopping for toilets now so hope and believe this knowledgeable community can share your thoughts.

Our upstairs toilet is the old 9-litre, whereas downstairs has a 2-year old 4-litre. The downstairs one seems to require more frequent cleaning although they both get the same use. Also the downstairs one sometimes needs 2 flushes esp for Number 2..,,

Have been reading Buying Guide from various retailers HN, Caroma… Just wonder anyone have one or two to recommend? Trying to spend as little as we can… Many thanks.

P/s Spellchecker didn't like "litre" Brrrr


  • +1

    Best toilet I ever used was at Fraser Suites in Kuala Lumpur as far as shape, depth, height of seat and flushing action goes - a true throne.
    And the little isolating tap beside the toilet also had a small trigger spray hose connected, just incase you weren't satisfied with the flushing action completing the task fully - if you know what I mean.
    Can't recall the brand - but you could send the GM an email enquiry.

    • +10

      And the little isolating tap beside the toilet also had a small trigger spray hose connected, just incase you weren't satisfied with the flushing action completing the task fully - if you know what I mean.

      That hose isn't for cleaning the toilet….


      • Haha funniest thing I heard today!
        Poor MITM, but thanks for sharing. Just a little too far for me……

      • So what would you use it for - your bum ?

        • Not sure if you're taking the piss or not….but I'll bite. Yes?

        • @Kenb0: I shit you not.

          We'll I'd have more use for it to clean the toilet and do away with the toilet brush.
          In fact, can't say I've ever had the need to wash my bum over the toilet. You ?

          Here's a photo if you scroll down.

          Seems everything in the bathroom has a hose attached, in case you need to wash your bum in the bath or the shower too.

        • @MITM: Well, now that you asked, yes I do get my bum washed over the toilet after every No2, but I have a proper bidet toilet with built in washer, etc. Results in a much cleaner result

          The main purpose of the hose next to toilet is exactly for that, washing your bum. Having lived in a few Asian countries over the years, it's quite common

        • +1


          Here's a photo if you scroll down.

          That's not a water hose, it's an intercom.

        • @Kenb0: Thanks for sharing Ken.

        • @Scab: Ahh,.. for ordering room service.

        • @MITM: Glad to. I have no filter, we all do it. What's our next taboo topic of conversation?

        • @MITM: looks like a Cotto one piece toilet.

        • @Stewardo: aha… you have lifted the lid to my all time favourite toilet. I recommend OP should look into it.

        • @MITM: Hi MITM, now you've been to Malaysia, I'd suggest you go to Japan next. Many people got hooked with their bidet.~smiles ~

        • @Pumpkin_rrr: Hi P, glad to have given you a laugh previously.

          Japan's not on my bucket list just yet, particularly to see a bidet.
          I've done without one all my life so far, can't see myself changing my bathroom routine anytime soon. But yes it's funny when people return from Japan, their most memorable experience is the automatic toilet systems they encounter with heat, air, etc.

          Anyway, good luck with the reno, you've garnered a few tips here. Some good ones including locating the cistern in the ceiling for extra gravity assisted water pressure, and my suggestion to have a trigger hose installed utilising the stop valve tap to aid cleaning the toilet and bathroom floor.

          I'm still not convinced the hose in the KL hotel bathroom was for personal hygiene purposes or it would have been built in IMHO - but if others want to use it for that, so be it.

  • +4

    Keep your toilets and buy a $1 bucket. Use it to collect the cold shower water before it warms up. Then use the collected water as required. :)

  • +1

    I always wondered about those old school cisterns that were mounted high up eg. Above head level, with a chain out the side. Gravity assisted pressure cleaning right there

    • They use that a lot in South East Asia, mainly for squat type toilets.
      Now you mention it, yes, seems like a no brainer.
      Why dont we have our cistern high up to use up gravity? Hmmmm

      • Exactly. I was thinking of reno'ing my bathroom and have the cistern in the roof and with a bowl that there fore didn't need to stick way out in to the bath room (or even corner mounted)

        • You can get the cisterns that you put inside the wall, it doesn't help with gravity but it does hide it away if you're worried about looks/space.

        • @onetwothree: yeah, I looked at wall cisterns and they aren't cheap. The roof cistern with a chain would be relatively inexpensive ( I'd be retiling the walls so running a pipe is no drama.)

  • The toilets in Japan get good feedback, maybe buy a Toto washlet?

    • I wish…. I need three and sadly haven't got the budget….

  • +1

    Is it just me or are toilet bowls just a tad too small? Like you go for a dump and have to position yourself just right not to crap on the ring and not rub against the front with other parts, which is quite ick at work for example. I'm not a big guy but I just find it weird how that's supposed to work.

    • @decr; Didn't you know?

      These days we are supposed to stand on the ring and aim.

      Some stand on one leg as they fire. When u get really good it goes clean around the s-bend and you don't even have to flush. This is helpful as it can form part of an effective water $aving strategy.

      Some find this too risky, so use the 'hover' method; Hovering above using avoids seat communicable diseases also, and you can lift a little to prevent the risk of splashback too.

      Ground level cisterns are easier to service. Built ins and ceiling mount are a PITA, but if you have variable or low water pressure, can be very helpful.

      • I'm not liking the idea of doing a spray paint from afar. Good comment otherwise!

  • Just get a long-drop. Problem solved :)

  • When I was living in Canada and working in construction, they had these American standard brand power flow toilets. They sounded like a airplane toilets flush, was something to do with air pressure, I’ve never seen one In oz.

  • Thanks everyone for posting. I think some of you are having a good fun :-))

  • +1

    We’ve done some Reno’s and mainly got the cheaper bunnings Estilo toilets - it seems their waste holes are a bit smaller than the Caromas. So I can definitely relate to the multiple flushes.

    I recommend something like a cheaper Caroma - they just seem to be designed for larger waste masses compared to the others :p

  • +1

    I took a gamble with a cheap Chinese-made suite from Bunnings. The $149 Estilo one.

    Actually wanted this Shaw & Mason unit as it was half the price. Yes, it's not on the AU site but they had a wall of the cheapies in-store. To my delight, expecting to pay 150+ and seeing that for $72 or whatever. Mrs preferred the look and soft-close of the former.

    The Estilo was a doddle to fit and hasn't misbehaved at all. Minor gripes?
    The fill valve has a sudden shut-off, you need to be creative to clean between seat and lid properly and it's best to position yourself well back, or else you'll have to brush the forward slope ;)

  • Never heard anyone complain about toilet flushing. This is a real gurgler. If you are looking for a cheap cistern just go and buy one. Bunnings is the best place. If there is something wrong with it they will gladly replace it for another one. And usually the best prices too.

  • I have just fitted a couple of Caromas during renos. They seem to work really well.
    I like that the seat is quite high so my todger doesn't dangle in the water.

    • Poking the cold porcelain can have unexpected results.

      Draping over the lip can do the same, and requires extraordinary control to avoid forward output exiting horizontally before and after the rear output dropping vertically.

      On some toilets dealing with these approaches becomes unavoidable, for example when the installer fitted the seat too far forward, or the designer just made the bowl too shallow or short. Beware Japanese toilets ;-)

      Mostly they fit them too far back, (or the cistern too far forward) which means the seat won't stay up. In that case, you just have to sit and face taking the temperature of the porcelain. Not nice at all.

  • +1

    Water saving toilets rarely save water as you need to flush them multiple times. A grey water system and a non water saving toilet would be smarter.

    • Exactly, they use half the water to do half the job. I hate ours and wish we had never replaced our old water guzzlers.

  • Just went to Bunnings, on display price range for $94 to $1255. If this is too cheap, they have Special Order for a few thousand dollars.

    I asked about flushing and didn't quite get a straight answer but got a good chat about toilets and looking inside the rims… yuck!

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