Prebuilt $5k Computer Including Monitor for 4k Gaming

AlienC on 19/10/2017 - 09:30
Last edited 19/10/2017 - 09:58 by 1 other user

So this is a weird story.. Friend has offered to buy me a new computer since I did some work for him a few years back for free and gave him some money for his gent and bills pro bono just as a favour.. we are both long time gamers and used to be highschool mates so he offered me this.. since I can't drive and am waiting for a tesla I told him if you want you can buy me a new computer since my old one is a goner and we can play again if you want and he said alright tat sounds good..done.. so he then said just let me know the price and make sure it is prebuilt so I don't have to fyi any work on it or touch it and I'll buy you one.. no budget but don't buy a supercomputer but also make sure it can run decent 4k it's a good time to buy he said

At first I joked with him about getting some $20,000 supercomputer or gagging laptop but then we ended up on something less crazy but still power worthy to be called a 4k gaming pc so I decided on at least a 8700k, 1 x 1080 ti not SLI since SLI isn't that great this generation imho yet and maybe 32-64gb ram. Rest is probably 1tb ssd and at least 10tb of HDD. Stuff for WiFi and all that and definitely a noctua air cooler

I showed him the plans and he said only one 1080ti? Ok it's your funeral.. lol he is a cheeky rich bastard when it comes to gaming hardware.. has never had only one gpu in his rigs.. which pains me as a conservative gamer. But anyways I come here to ask if anybody knows of any good super high end prebuilt computers.. preferably those specs minimum..I am a little rusty on stuff like psu measurements and SSD hardware with the new pcie slots a few years back.. I don't mind paying much since he is paying.. no preferences on case just whatever is cheapest I suppose.. I remember reading up on the HP Omen .. that might be one.. posting here instead of computing to see if any good bargain hunters with pc knowledge come by here.

I know I should be building it but he wants to make it easier and just do it all in one so prebuilt it is I even offered to make it haha lol would be a fun experiment since I haven't touched this new gen products.. so let me know the best offerings preferably below $5000 I I know that sounds crazy but I am including monitor and a few other peripherals like mechanical keyboard and headset and stuff even a few hundred dollar gaming chair but anyways what prebuilt is cheapest for these specs.. cheers thank you Ozbargain sorry for this wall of text.. Just this very odd happening and life experience so yeah haha lol. Bye.

Gaming

Comments

  • Neilzy on 19/10/2017 - 09:40
    +13

    sounds like a bit of show boating here. if you had that much cash to splash, go hit up all the comp parts retailers and see which prebuilt system suits your near-bottomless budget

    • AlienC on 19/10/2017 - 10:50
      +1

      Only reason I am adding here is because atm I am out of mental energies.. guys I think I have hit the stop.

      Who knows if I have no more energy to even play it I may even give it away.. but I think this is just exhausted AlienC now talking.. past few days have been hectic with more problems after problems.. Ozbargain needs a whine forum haha lol me thinks

      Current annoying problem my Netgear Nighthawk router is showing no internet but main modem is so I am guessing it is an Ethernet cable wear and tear problem since it is on two main walkways.. this means my side of the house has no internet grr and that's just one of many new problems haha lol anyways I am going way off topic now so sorry for the I digress I am tired for now bye.. sorry for the shitpost spam food coma time

    • AlienC on 19/10/2017 - 10:55

      Normally I would trust me but I am so burnt out from watching so many pc and cpu and gpu game and etc reviews I thought I'd ask somebody who wasn't.. haven't been restraining pieces and good places to buy and stuff just benchmarks and reviews etc. So somebody may know which retailers are giving the best prices for this kind of system atm..

      Fwiw I can recommend you the best GTX 1060 laptop though no warranty atm but not a 4k gaming pc beast or laptop (well not a laptop because one doesn't really exist for decent 4k gaming atm with a good 4k screen only desktops and monitors or tv's combos afaik correct me if I am wrong)

    • Baysew on 12/11/2017 - 12:25

      sounds like a bit of show boating here

      Just a bit.

      Multiple Questions Regarding 750ti and HP 8200 Refurb DIY

      $140 refurb! What happened to the $20k supercomputer?

  • Desailly on 19/10/2017 - 09:43

    https://www.mwave.com.au/

    they'll customise it for you. so in a way it's 'prebuilt' ?

  • Gronk on 19/10/2017 - 09:44
    +6

    This is neither a question nor informative… congrats on the awesome PC but… booooooo…

    • AlienC on 19/10/2017 - 10:51
      +1

      Lol haha I just realised this is kind of shitpost brag I am sorry I guess I just wanted to tell somebody else haha lol I am so lonely haha

  • sien on 19/10/2017 - 10:03

    https://www.scorptec.com.au/systems/scorptec/25/409?gclid=Cj…

    I was just looking for Nvidia titan cards and this came up.

    Surely people can do better though?

    FWIW Nvidia Quadros are running at 7K

    • donga100 on 19/10/2017 - 10:14
      +1

      Would need to add an extra $2k for the monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, wireless, etc.

    • Neilzy on 19/10/2017 - 10:20

      dont forget Cash Rewards

  • spackbace on 19/10/2017 - 10:41
    +4

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/331403

    Posts this, then says is buying a $5k pc…

    Come off it

    • AlienC on 19/10/2017 - 10:51

      For what it's worth the pc is a present I may have to be a dick and sell but trying not to haha lol.

      • spackbace on 19/10/2017 - 11:48
        +3

        So then ask him to buy a $2k PC since you need the cash for other means or something. If your hard on your luck you don't ask friends to buy you a powerful PC instead of taking care of bills etc.

        Not to mention you said you live in a sharehouse. Do you really want a $5k gaming PC sitting there when you go out?

        Whole post lacks commonsense

        • AlienC on 20/10/2017 - 04:37

          very true I might be a bit over my head and not thinking this true..i did say a cheap GTX 1060 is fine but he insisted on offering a desktop.. he is a hardcore pc master race kind of guy.. absolutely hates consoles and laptops or anything handheld or mobile aka stuff that jives or more suits me lol haha

          but ok I know maybe $5k was a bit over exaggerating but something like maybe a $3.5k machine with 4k decent g sync monitor and some other peripherals I could reach near $4.5k so I guess the extra $500 was extra pocket change for whatever extra compensation buffer budget in case I miss or want something else like maybe better webcam or Mic or something. Who knows might end up live twitch streaming and I heard offloading your twitch duties to a second computer is sometimes better on gameplay and etc (but highly unlikely with my current upload speeds).

          A GTX 1080 ti alone being the centre of the beast is already maybe $960 on a good day let's say $1000 with shipping to be safe.

          Add in a new coffee lake 8700k cpu and mobo when they become more available, a case and psu easily another roughly sub $1000 there.

          Then there is 32-64gb of ram. 1tb of SSD storage and maybe another smaller one as a backup or separate boot drive or redundancy etc and 5-10tb of HDD storage minimum (yes space is precious now) so easily over $1000 on main and redundancy storage and ram.

          Add in the tiny extras like network card, optical drive, fans, maybe a game capture card, an aftermarket cooler, some Ozbargain favourite speakers I can't tell the difference usually anyways we'll see.. snd maybe some gaming peripherals like headset, keyboard, mouse pad and mouse.. about a few another hundred there.

          And I haven't even thought about the monitor.. I mean a $500-1000 4k tv "could" do it but my gut is saying not to waste a beast gaming machine with a non optimized for gaming display solution and so 4k monitors with g sync is an option and last I checked they are not cheap easily in the same price range as a tv for a decent specced monitor and size range.

          So looking at it all up it is reaching anywhere from $4000 to $5000 in conservative budget estimates.. I mean if I tone everything down a bit I can easily reach sub $3k but this is near the best of the best haha lol

          In ten years this pc will be worth probably less than $100 but oh well at $500 max a year that's not too bad for top range performance. Happy to pay extra for more performance in a gaming computer so no stress or worries and later and anyways this is all mostly on the house from somebody minus a few maybe personal extras.

          Remember this is just a general guideline I don't want to say something smaller and then people start recommending only GTX 1060 builds because that is what the price is at.. no this is a 1080ti 4k build and maybe and then some so the right budget for the right parts need to be set.

          I have been way out of the game for a long time not even half decent gaming maybe only light cod and dota on a busted cheap now dead laptop lol and that was a few years ago definitely.. There is so much out now and stuff just keeps getting better and better almost sometimes as if exponentially or logarithmically which means more demanding hardware needed and etc for future gaming and etc.

          We are living during some seriously crazy times shit is crazy yo..

        • spackbace on 20/10/2017 - 15:28

          @AlienC:

          We are living during some seriously crazy times shit is crazy yo..

          There's always been top of the range PC's, pushing what we think is possible. Now is no different to 5 years or 10 years ago.

        • AlienC on 20/10/2017 - 21:53

          @Spackbace: I know but for me they have started to be within reach and perspective is everything. Lol

    • Calmago on 19/10/2017 - 12:16
      +3

      To be fair, he did say he is waiting on a Tesla. If i dropped big $$$ on a car I couldn't afford. I'd be looking for cheap accommodation too. /sarcasm

  • garetz on 19/10/2017 - 13:57

    Build a virtual computer on https://au.pcpartpicker.com/ , then have a pc store actually build it.

  • Axelstrife on 19/10/2017 - 14:31

    https://www.pccasegear.com/category/1411/systems

    While they don't have coffee lake PC's yet im sure they will once there is actually stock for coffee lake CPU's
    there's Ryzen and kaby lake and a thread ripper atm.

    • AlienC on 20/10/2017 - 04:39

      Yeah still early days yet but just getting ready as with November around the corner with black friday and everything and then Christmas.. I gotta do my research like a good boy beforehand haha lol.

  • Oz8argain on 19/10/2017 - 15:18

    'a few hundred dollar gaming chair' This guy is trolling us..

    • Axelstrife on 19/10/2017 - 19:20
      +1

      My pc chair cost 450 best money I've spent on something for my pc.

      • AlienC on 20/10/2017 - 04:09

        Nice I was looking at the Kogan one and it got me thinking about them.. personally I want to use a comfy recliner or armchair of some sort but now I want try a gaming chair.. heard good reviews on some high end ones.

  • dylanando on 19/10/2017 - 18:44

    What tesla you getting

    • AlienC on 20/10/2017 - 04:44
      -1

      No idea yet.. just watching the Americans and other international communities share their knowledge on their experiences and everything.. I would probably be getting the one with full autonomy however or the highest when they become more mainstream in Australia.. I'll have a look at my offerings especially with some light competition coming from all directions it's always good to look back and just go back to the drawing board.

      Here's to hoping within five years but that's pretty hopeful but anything can happen lol.. but realistically at this rate more like ten or twenty lol.

      But don't wanna jinx it lol.

      How about yourself you thinking of importing or buying a tesla or any other automated vehicle anytime in the future?

      • dylanando on 20/10/2017 - 14:04
        -1

        I see where your coming from and they certainly peak my interests. The autonomous driving will be a massive spin out haha. The model 3 seems rather intriguing.

        • AlienC on 20/10/2017 - 21:54
          +1

          Definitely it'll be a huge change almost overnight. Like when everybody switched from dial-up to broadband

  • Ahbal on 29/10/2017 - 13:40

    You dont need to spend that much mate….I could build 2 4k gaming rigs with the money you are spending.

    Why are you on Ozbargain to begin with?

    • AlienC on 30/10/2017 - 05:17

      Ok then build me an Ozbargain worthy budget 4k gaming rig either with your own notes in comments or using pcpartpicker with Australian prices (however sometimes they miss great sales and prices).

      It needs to do 4k 60 fps for all games minimum including ashes of the singularity and a couple of other 2016/2017 titles not just the highly optimized ones.

      No need to account for other uses like video editing or rendering just pure gaming so an Intel build most likely with a GTX 1080 minimum unless you know something I don't know.

      Have at it.. list me all the prices parts etc in a nice format and let's compare notes and prices. I really want to build this computer by the next steam sale if possible if not the one next shortly after.

      Remember 4k 60 fps minimum for anything I can throw at it for at least say 3 years not 5 let's be reasonable.

      Output to a single large monitor for now with possibility of 3 x TV's in future since large 4k gaming monitors are super expensive as fudge iirc please correct me if I am wrong.

      Remember $5k on a solid gaming pc is not bad if spent correctly and not splashed on useless parts absurdly just gotta pick the right parts nicely otherwise then you run the risk of over blowing out your budget.

      Good luck my man.

      Do you accept this challenge? Yes? No? Hotel? Trivago?

      • Ahbal on 30/10/2017 - 09:16
        +1

        Yep no problem. 4k 60fps for next 3 years I think will only be possible if you put proper settings (even with 1080ti I think). For example, AA shouldnt need to be maxed out. So yes, Ill stick with 1080, even with 1070ti coming out.

        CPU: i5 7600k $299 https://www.umart.com.au/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-Quad-Core-LGA-1…

        CPU cooler: Hyper 212x $42(overclocking) https://www.umart.com.au/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212X-CPU-Cooler…

        MOBO: Asrock Z270 $159 https://www.umart.com.au/ASRock-Z270-PRO4-LGA-1151-Motherboa…

        RAM (crazy expensive…) Corsair 16GB $249 https://www.umart.com.au/Corsair-Vengeance-LPX-16GB--1x16GB-… Pirces may drop or increase.

        GPU: MSI GTX 1080 Armor $699 https://www.umart.com.au/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1080-Armor-OC-Gamin…

        SSD: Samsung 250GB $125 https://www.umart.com.au/Samsung-250GB-SSD-850-EVO_30295G.ht…
        HDD: WD 2TB $89 https://www.umart.com.au/Western-Digital-WD20EZRZ-Blue-2TB-S…

        PSU: Corsair CS750M $128 https://www.umart.com.au/Corsair-CMPSU-750CXM-750W-ATX-Power…

        Case: Coolermaster Mastercase Pro3 $89 https://www.umart.com.au/Cooler-Master-MasterCase-Pro-3-Mid-…

        Grand total: $1790. Let me know if I missed anything.

        Since you said no need for video editing, I put the i5 in there. Its overclockable and will have no problem in gaming for 3 years (i5 2500k's still go strong).

        This price leaves room for you to add or improve anything. E.g add $70 for AIO watercooling, or add $100 for a better case. Or maybe a bigger ssd? However what i put is enough for gaming, as I have pretty much the exact same build except mine is a core i56500 (built it last year, 6600k's were out of stock at the time). I have hardly even used 20% of total storage space, and I mod so many of my games with high res textures and shaders. So imo no need for more space than that unless you download movies or whatever. In which case add more storage as the price still leaves plenty of room until $2000, meaning even if you go water cooling-or a 1080ti perhaps-you can still build 2 of these with the price you were willing to pay. I didnt include a monitor as it sounds like you already have one?

        Further, you can 4k game on cheaper budget cards like RX 580's or GTX 1060's. Just not on ultra settings. It is a genuine option, as you can buy a budget card now but get Volta's new mid range/top end card (example 1070 is better than last gens top tier 980ti). So its all up to you. PC gaming builds are more than just throwing money at what people say will run "4k".

        EDIT: Should add that the money you are spending is by now means "normal". You can build a full custom water loop with twin 1080tis and an i78700k with that money. I dont know what people have been telling you but it seems you have the wrong idea mate. The money you have will get you an 8K gaming system!! (twin 1080tis can run 8k).

        • AlienC on 30/10/2017 - 22:49

          Haha damn that is a very nice build can't find any fault there. But with the cpu would it be wise to maybe try and opt for a i5-8400 coffee lake over the i5-7600k? I am just guessing as I don't really know but maybe the coffee lake option might do better overall even in gaming and productivity what do you think?

          Also how does the noctua dh 15 or whatever compare to this hyper 212x?

          I guess I would maybe try to bump each setting up a notch so a 1080ti over the 1080. The noctua over the hyper. Adjust the psu maybe a little bit.

          Only 8-16gb ram for now until prices become more normal again.

          And yeah I think that is pretty much it should be around $2200 roughly I am not sure could you do some more adjustments and new parts pricing.

          I haven't decided on a monitor yet.. I have none but was looking at a large tv as an option will most likely be playing it like a console and both a desktop with table interchanging as needed I have the space for both.

          Honestly initially I wanted to buy a cheaper Ryzen 5 1600 and GTX 1060/70 build as it felt more bang for buck but after comparing prices with performance I thought to myself 4k wasn't that much more expensive.. the price scaling with performance seems pretty reasonable do you also think this?

          Like for what you pay for I think the price / performance scaling is equal up to maybe a 8600k but a 1080ti seems to be fair for pricing about 3x a 1060.

          I probably won't touch water cooling at all until I am more familiar and comfortable with it. I will probably lug this desktop around also between places so less prone to damage via constant moving the better. Definitely will not touch AIO cooling as I already did some research on it and it is pricier and less effective in many tests.

          Linus Tech Tips already showed air coolers are the best alternatives to stock coolers as long as you have the space. Space isn't an issue for me I don't mind having a large case just not too monstrous but I can accommodate a medium to large build.

          Resummarizing I am aiming for a single 1080 ti, cpu in the 300-400 AUD range or whatever doesn't bottleneck the gpu at the lowest or second to lowest price. For now 8-16gb ram because crazy prices can always add more later or if people think it will drop at a certain date can even wait until then. Don't need much fancy motherboard I guess just ability to scale to 32gb max in future, integrated WiFi would be great but will most likely go wired of course but the option is great. Really leaning towards noctua unless you believe the cooling effectiveness dip on a hyper212x is worth it.. personally on a machine like this if I can save a few more degrees on the machine for a few extra dollars I will do it. PSU I actually don't know too much about it.. have read many notes on how you should aim for 50-60% of max load or whatever or aim for certain amount of efficiency to utilise the most out of the psu as it is not 100% effective and also running it at max is not good for the psu's lifetime. Running a single 1080 or 1080ti I don't even know if I will be needing extra case fans or whatever not sure how to measure this or calculate for this kind of air flow. Storage is fine I guess I can micromanage what I have installed on it or whatever. Will maybe download some movies and stuff later but it is honestly not much of a priority I just want to develop a bit and game both 3d and coding maybe.

          Lastly I guess with the monitor I keep leaning towards a tv I don't know why. 4k monitors are expensive and I can't imagine dumping as much on a monitor as I would on a gpu it is just crazy and getting a non 4k monitor at this point would be useless hmm I don't know. I wanted to buy a decent 120-144hz 4k HDR pc gaming monitor but haven't found one in good prices also haven't researched much about them.

          Whereas I know now I can either get a simple 4k 60 fps but no HDR tv for around $500-600 AUD for a 55" Kogan or a $1000-1200 AUD 55"-65" 4k 60 fps HDR Hisense or JVC. Decisions decisions. Comparable monitors might be in the 40" range but have more features like g sync and 144hz and lower input lag so it is tricky.

        • Ahbal on 30/10/2017 - 23:02

          @AlienC:

          I picked the 7600k because you can overclock it, you cant overclock coffelake i5 8400. Noctua cooler is better, yes, however the 212x is enough. PSU is fine, no need to spend much more there as wattage is fine and quality is excellent. 8600k costs a lot more than a 7600k-need to factor in motherboard costs for that too (Z370).

          Personally, with your budget, I would got with this exact build, and spend the rest on a monitor (I would personally go 1440p 144hz ultrawide ips over 4k, as 4k monitors are crazy expensive and I value fps over res). No point having a kickass gaming PC if you don't have a matching monitor. If you already have a solid 4k TV, then by all means do whatever you like in terms of GPU. However, keep in mind most TV's have a way higher latency than monitors. This is most noticable in racing games and First person shooters-especially the twitch based ones.

          Everything else I think is fine in terms of pure gaming performance and value. You also could swap out for Ryzen if you like, however as you said you dont really care about video editing I stuck with intel. Another thing you may want to upgrade could be the mobo if you want more features outside of raw performance/gaming. However my build was to demonstrate you could build 2 very capable 4k machines for the one price you originally wanted to pay for one system. As long as you now see all you need is around 2k for a 4k system that will last at least 3 years, then my goal here is accomplished.

          Or you could go baller with 1080ti's in sli with an 8700k and hardline tubing for 5k. If you really want to spend every cent!

        • AlienC on 30/10/2017 - 23:08

          @Ahbal: out of curiosity what extra stuff do you get on the more expensive motherboards? I have always wondered this.

          I am staying away from SLI until a YouTuber or trusted review site can verify that it's gains are well worth it and not highly compromised and only in a handful of games.

          Maybe on my second build hopefully when more progress is done on it but for now I am staying safely within single card behemoths.

        • Ahbal on 30/10/2017 - 23:20

          @AlienC:
          M.2 support for M.2 ssds, better on board audio (7.1 support over 5.1) better on board programs-such as overclocking utilities, fan control utilities etc etc. However, Z170 boards have most of thes efeatures to begin with so its all good.

          Here is a copy paste from the mobo i used for your example build:

          7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec), ELNA Audio Caps
          6 SATA3, 2 Ultra M.2 (PCIe Gen3 x4 & SATA3)
          8 USB 3.0 (1 Type-C, 2 Front, 5 Rear)

          Standouts are USB type C, 2 m.2 slots, and 7.1 channel audio-which is so much better than 5.1 provided you have good speakers/headset that can use it.

        • AlienC on 31/10/2017 - 00:07

          @Ahbal: I will be coming from an android tablet so tbh I don't need to super kit out my gear straight away although if I did I probably would go crazy in a heartbeat its hard to resist.

          Personally just looking forward to revisiting my old steam collection and maybe indulging in a few ones.

          Honestly don't mind 5.1 although 7.1 sounds enticing now that you've mentioned it.

          The improved SSD's speeds is probably what I would be looking forward to the most.

          Having a dedicated drive to fast loading times and fast boots would be awesome.

          As for the speakers I will honestly not spend too much on them $100-150 at most maybe even less as long as I can somewhat hear them.. most of the budget will be towards pure cpu gpu performance I have dabbled with sounds and found that even the budget ranges fits my needs quite comfortably something like a Logitech g430 will be more than enough. Actually for speakers I might even go lower since I don't want to much sound to disturb my neighbors since I game mainly at night so probably even lesser lie $50 - 100 speakers if any at all probably will only go with the Logitech G430 7.1 headset and some cheap speakers lying around or off gumtree or eBay.. sound is a non issue for me we hit maximum sound performance for me personally way back in the 90s maybe even 80s only difference now is it is digitised and of course newer standards and setups popping up.

        • AlienC on 31/10/2017 - 01:13

          @Ahbal: I think I am going with i5-8400 after watching this https://youtu.be/EzVrm5FmeSM

          It just makes sense more performance for same price.

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