Thinking about installing one as it seems quite…cool.
Would love to hear your thoughts and experiences.
Which brands are good, Pros and cons etc..
Do Any of You Guys Use a Finger Print Door Lock?
drose1 on 16/12/2017 - 23:09
Last edited 17/12/2017 - 09:02 by 1 other user
Last edited 17/12/2017 - 09:02 by 1 other user
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Yep you can put it on mute.
It drove me nuts too, specifically at night when others were sleeping
"I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."
Fingerprint door locks are good if you remember to wipe it after each use. Otherwise, you can apply a piece of tape onto it, press firmly then lift off and stick it to itself to get a copy of the last used fingerprint
That's another reason i dont use the fingerprint ones. The only fingerprint one i ever used was a slide type. Similar to what is on the top of some laptops. Looks like a horizontal gold strip that you slide your finger across.
If you are going to place the lock in a place where there's a lot of direct sun light and heat, the acrylic touch screen might start to develop micro fractures.
like the images in the review section below,
https://www.amazon.com/Kwikset-SmartCode-Touchscreen-Electro…We get a lot of west facing sun and we haven't seen any issues with Samsung one, we've had it a few years now. However, I would keep it out of the rain.
One of the places we were staying a while back had NFC locks fitted & stopped working when the afternoon sun was on it for a while.
interesting, we mainly use the PIN Numbers, rather than cards, but never had an issue even with full afternoon sun.
I wonder what percentage of burglars get in via the front door - I thought Windows were substantially more common?
Burglars look for whatever is the easiest, and most secluded, access. People think they are being really secure by putting in high fences but this means the burglar has a degree of privacy to break into your house. Our external windows are all glass brick and our internal courtyard windows are laminated.
It's best to think of fingerprints and other biometrics are usernames and identifiers, not passwords (keys). It's not hard for someone to know your username, and it's not hard for someone to copy your fingerprint.
I would never use biometrics to secure anything valuable.
I am not convinced that copying anyone’s fingerprint is going to be that easy. Most burglars target houses at random or after a short observation window. I doubt that the average criminal has the time or the covert skills to pull your finger print of something, make a copy and use it to enter your house. Far easier to brick a window.
I would sooner trust a biometric lock over a house key. You can lose your keys or have it copied quite easily. Bit hard to lose your fingers, and if you did, you have bigger issues to worry about than if your house is going to get unlocked with those missing fingers…
Sometimes I go out and leave the door unlocked hoping someone will come and steal away all my ozbargain clutter, but they never do =(
Then I hope for my house to burn down with Xiaomi powerboards, but that hasn't worked either.
You could say I fit into an unusual demographic for household insurance requirements.
Huh, reminds me of a time I also used to do that; had absolutely nothing of value in the house, just some shitty old computers that's running on ancient hardware are probably the most expensive/valuable looking items in the house, no jewelry or hidden cash anywhere, nothhing nadda didn't even have anything of sentimental value to me in the house as well! So I was perfectly find if someone came in and stole something…..but no one ever did came to break in and at least attempted to show signs that they were searching the place and maybe run off with one or two or all the ancient computers…….lol…
Does anyone know of a smart lock that is fire rated for apartments in NSW?
Still haven't managed to find one.
I bought a samsung shs-2320 about 4 years ago for my place. One of the best things I've ever bought.
We've got a massive glass panel on the side of the door, if anyone's going to kick down our door, they can save themselves and just break the glass. Or any of the other 15 windows around the house.
People spend a lot of money protecting the front door, but there are plenty of other vulnerable points of entry in more hidden areas than the front.
As for comments on security..
If someone wants to get in. They'll find a way.
Use an alarm system, hide your shit and get a bolted down safe.We have 2 x the lockwood one a PP linked from Bunnings. It has a key lock from the inside, so it can be deadlocked. We have small kids and some of the Samsung ones we looked at only needed a button pressed to open the deadlock - so a kid could easily escape.
https://www.lockweb.com.au/en/site/lockweb/lockwood-products…
I've been using a samsung ezon digital door lock shs-1320 for about 5 years. I also had to get mine from overseas (but via ebay from memory). It was not too expensive, around $120 or so, and I love it.
It is easy to program the NFC cards, it just works and is great quality, easy to install. I think this model is long superseded now but go the newer ezon lock that meets your needs. The one I have doesn't have a handle on it as I had that separate already but you can get the same thing with a handle.
Cons - someone could chop off your finger to gain access.
Does anyone know of a smart lock that works with mortise lock types?
How good are they in identifying fake prints, eg If your print was lifted up somewhere and then used to attempt to gain access
Bought one and it worked pretty well for a month or so, then it stopped working regularly. So we had to carry a key anyway. Took it back and replaced it with a press button combination lock (each person has their number) and it’s been brilliant. (This one is a Lockwood).
I chose the Samsung pin/NFC one. I didn't trust the Bluetooth ones that open when you're phone is near, and I didn't see much benefit to the finger print ones and also worried they might randomly not work if dirty or something.
I love my Lock, I use the pin most of the time but if I couldn't use the pin for whatever reason I also have NFC and key.
The best thing is being able to leave the house without even thinking about bringing your key. So many times when I go to put a bin out or put out the washing etc I'm so glad I can just do it without thinking and get back In no issue (all my doors autolock).
I do wish the locking mechanism was quicker and felt stronger. My Lockwood deadlocks feel satisfyingly solid when closing and lock immediately.
Can you still get in if the power goes out?
Dont bother locking.
The bigger the lock, the bigger the thiefI prefer not to use fingerprint-based authentication mechanisms. It's like having a password that you automatically write down on everything you touch. And you can't change it (easily), so there's no way to revoke a compromised token (ie: fingerprint).
Every manufacturer claims to solve this problem, and eventually every manufacturer's latest security device ends up being defeated.
This is a really interesting thread - i don't have an alternate technology lock and haven't researched them but i gotta say a house is as strong as its weakest link - it's not like a robber has to go through the front door, so while it's great people are shoring up their front door security, there are a lot of windows (particularly secluded backyard ones) that will just take a well-lobbed brick to gain entry and it's game over
It really is an interesting thread. When I created it, I wasn't expecting this much discussion.
Security is definitely a major concern, but it's not the only thing; convenience is also a priority. Actually, in this case, the main reason I'd consider changing to a PIN/NFC lock is because of convenience; because like you said, no matter how safe your front door is, if someone really wanted to break in, they could.
The problem with security and convenience is they are typically opposed along the same axis. Any attempt to increase security will usually decrease convenience, and vice versa…
To an extent, yes. However, for a general household like mine and many others in this thread, there would be a level of security which is sufficient, and anything above that just becomes inefficient and an overkill. Many of the locks recommended in this thread, I'm sure, are just as, maybe more, maybe less, secure than your general household lock. However, I believe most of the ones recommended here are more convenient than the general lock.
I guess there just needs to be a fine balance between security and convenience.
I think you're probably right. As long as people are generally aware the connected locks specifically and electronics locks in general can actually make an intruder's "job" easier, then there's a chance they'll can do enough research to make an informed choice. Having said that, I would generally expect that the Lockwood and Samsung devices listed here to include sensible security features. (And having said that, if I were installing such a device for myself, I'd still want to do more research before making a purchasing decision… ;-) )
My concern is that with network-connected devices, adding such a device to your door actually weakens security. Witness the various IoT hacks in the news, and the various IoT-based botnets, made possible by poorly-designed and/or poorly-implemented (or complete lack of) security in IoT devices.
Remember, the "S" in "IoT" stands for "Security". ;-)
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That is the one I've been looking at. I assume you can turn off the voice, it would drive me nuts. I want it so I can over ride with the key in the case of total failure of the lock.