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LiFePO4 12V 270A Car/Bike Jump Starter with LCD $99 (Was $169) @ Jaycar

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LiFePO4 12V 270A Car/Bike Jump Starter with LCD $99 (Was $169) @ Jaycar
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iratepirate on 11/01/2018 - 11:58 jaycar.com.au (299 clicks)
Last edited 11/01/2018 - 12:09 by 1 other user

What an actual bargain from Jaycar?!?

• LiFePO4 battery 270 cold cranking amps (400A peak)
• USB ports x 2 provides up to 2.4A total current
• Reverse polarity and short circuit protection
• Battery and alternator tester
• LED working light
• Dimensions: 185(L) x 100(D) x 50(H)mm
• Battery capacity: 45Ah

Also available on their Ebay with Paypal protection + $7.50 delivery

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-LiFePo4-12V-270A-Jump-Starte…

I've found these to be good to jump start a 4 cylinder turbo diesel and they are great for bikes.

Automotive Battery Jump Starter LiFePO4 Lithium Battery Rechargeable Battery

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  • doweyy on 11/01/2018 - 12:10
    +10

    Jaycar has left a very sour taste in my mouth after seeing this.. They still haven't fixed the issue and the rep was non-existent after posting the deal.

    • DoctorDubb on 11/01/2018 - 12:19
      +4

      Nothing to do with the bargain mentioned - but do not deal with Jaycar dodgy dealings until they resolve the blatant rip-off of an Australian innovator.

      • h4zey on 11/01/2018 - 12:20
        +3

        get it from somewhere else if you can!

    • iratepirate on 11/01/2018 - 12:22
      +2

      Yep I rarely shop there now. I order all my electronic components online and agree their are some ethical problems.
      My other issue is most of the time they are too expensive for the quality they offer.

      • doweyy on 11/01/2018 - 12:24
        +2

        Don't mean to drag your deal down at all, I just hate seeing unethical issues like that and try to keep the awareness up. Thanks for posting however!

      • SteveAndBelle on 11/01/2018 - 12:35
        +2

        Yep agreed. I only use them for those absolute Emergencies when you can't wait the 3-4 weeks for stuff to arrive from China. Use to nearly LIVE in my local Jaycar store but that was going back 25 years and when they used to only sell electronics, speakers and kits, not all the plastic crap they do now.

    • cryptos on 11/01/2018 - 12:35
      +1

      Wow what an Arse..e the owner is, glad I saw this, will boycott this store in future

  • futaris on 11/01/2018 - 12:17

    ~160Wh battery for $100 isn't too bad.

  • RickoWest on 11/01/2018 - 12:34

    I was actually going to buy this today - http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Product/Calibre-12-Volt-Min…

    I have a 3.0L V6 and a motorbike, so dependent on one or the other each sees no love for weeks at a time so something like this would be handy - which is the better deal?

    • iratepirate on 11/01/2018 - 12:42
      +1

      This deal is for lithium iron phosphate batteries, the calibre is Li-ion

      Safety, cycle life, and robustness are the reasons why I like LiFePO4. They last longer and keep better charge when sitting on the shelf.

    • bargainparker on 11/01/2018 - 12:44
      +2

      If you ever become an inventor and start dealing with Jaycar you will know (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/347558#comment-5379161)

      Dodgy as. I'd actually ban posting their deals. other shops have been so don't see the reason why not this one, until they make it right with this guy and apologise.

    • virtual81 on 11/01/2018 - 13:10
      +1

      Neither, and i'm not trying to be difficult.
      You'd be way better of buying a maintainer charger to connect to whichever vehicle is likely to see no love.
      If parked outdoors with some sun a solar panel can even be sufficient.
      If your likely to need a 'jump' device then it means you're prematurely killing your car batteries.
      Additionally, devices like these usually abuse the low internal resistance advantage lithium has to offer, these devices usually die after a few uses.

    • SteveAndBelle on 11/01/2018 - 13:42
      +1

      Hi Ricky. As per Virtual81s comment above, you'd be better to get a nice little solar panel to keep the battery in the unused vehicle topped up while you're using the other one. I bought a 10W panel from SuperCheap many years ago for this exact reason and it does a fantastic job! Jump Starter devices are great for 'emergencies' but shouldn't be used as an ongoing solution.

      • RickoWest on 11/01/2018 - 14:43

        Cheers all, much more to look at then what I was. I'll have a look at the solar option as both are possible with these vehicles. Thanks for offering much more to my query!

        • SteveAndBelle on 11/01/2018 - 14:50

          Sorry, the one I bought was a 20W… exactly the same as this: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Product/SCA-Regulated-Solar… I didn't trust the simple diode regulation so I have it running through a cheap $5-10 regulator bought direct from China.

          There's also a 10W version for a little less money (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Product/Ridge-Ryder-Solar-P…) however as you can see the 20W offers better bang for buck. Keep an eye out for a SuperCheap sale and grab one then! I saw their 150W panels for as little as $100 late last year during a 20% off sale… and that's a crazy low price!!! Big panel just for 'maintenance charging' a battery though :)

  • upsidedownlemon on 11/01/2018 - 13:00

    Use eBay 5% off coupon if buying from eBay

  • virtual81 on 11/01/2018 - 13:11
    +1

    Physics says NO to a 45Ah LiFE battery fitting inside those dimensions.
    Common sense says it won't fit in that price range.
    This is clearly and over speced and over rated device.
    No deal here.

    ::edit::

    Just thought i'd measure my 16Ah LiFE battery

    170 x 150 x 50mm
    Twice the size, less than half the power.
    And this is battery only, no enclosure, no circuitry, no USB, no battery management.
    I'd like to think the 45Ah is a typo for 4.5Ah, but i really think they are trying to pass these off as 45Ah.

    If anyone can get a sample to me in outer SE Vic (20mins east of Jaycar Hallam) i'd be happy to measure the real capacity for you.

    • worthy1 on 11/01/2018 - 13:28

      Yeh I tried it on my bike and it didn't work. Had to peddle it to get it going like always.

      • Steptoe on 11/01/2018 - 13:58
        +2

        peddle

        Did you find a buyer?

    • BenMHarvey on 11/01/2018 - 15:08

      No way in hell this be 45AH, even 4.5AH is ambitious. Probably not even a LiFePO cell I guess someone should buy it just to debunk it and then remove the torn apart remains

      • virtual81 on 11/01/2018 - 15:11

        I'm tempted!
        I have the equipment to debunk it, but not the cash to buy it.
        If we could find 10 Oz B'ers to chip in $10 ea i'll make it happen!

        :edit: If anyone does get one and is inclined to open it, if it has 4 cells it probably is LiFe, if it has 3 cells it will be Li-Ion

        • BenMHarvey on 13/01/2018 - 11:40

          So I popped into a JayCar and inspected it. The packaging makes no mention of the 45AH claim

  • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2018 - 13:21

    No actual bargain comes from any thief

  • redcreek200 on 11/01/2018 - 13:43
    +1

    I wonder how many are genuine in their anger versus simply joining the pack.

  • nanoxz on 11/01/2018 - 13:50

    It's interesting to see a product with chemical formula. As a battery chemist, I am confident to tell you iron phosphate is durable, high-power and safe.

    • SteveAndBelle on 11/01/2018 - 14:46

      Interesting though, I assumed LiFEPO4 batteries were capable of handling a lot more heat exposure then LiPO and Li-ion but after doing a bit of research it seems they have a maximum 'safe' temp of 60C. I would like a JumpStarter device as a backup to leave in a car that doesn't get much use but sits outdoors in a remote location but of course temps inside a car can easily exceed 60C on a hot & sunny day so it seems even LiFEPO4 can't handle the heat either. Any comment on that Nanoxz?

      • virtual81 on 11/01/2018 - 15:10

        Solar panel on the dash board will do the job.
        You'll need to wire it into a circuit that is live when the ignition is off though.
        If you're lucky the cig lighter is some vehicles stays live with ign off.

        • SteveAndBelle on 11/01/2018 - 15:16

          Yes… which is exactly what I've done and works a treat however I have been caught out when returning to the car to find the solar panels had failed at some stage and the battery didn't quite have enough to successfully turn the engine over. Lucky for me I had my trusty SLA based all-in-one Jump Starter bought during a Dick Smith sale/OzBargain deal many years ago and it saved the day… but I'd like a Lithium based version of that however I don't want to leave a Lithium battery in the car with the potential of it reaching 80C or more. Pretty sure the high temps were what killed the previous Solar Panel as it was one of the flexible aluminium backed panels. The new panel is just a basic, framed glass type and has been working OK… but I'd still like to cover all bases if possible and not get stuck.

        • iratepirate on 11/01/2018 - 16:21

          @SteveAndBelle: You are right these are for emergency starting - my 4WD is automatic so won't clutch start and my dirt bike doesn't even have a kick starter so this sits in the truck.

        • nanoxz on 11/01/2018 - 23:19

          @iratepirate: Working in a hot condition over 50 degree will definitely accelerate the degradation of any lithium ion cathode materials because of the side reactions with electrolytes. But LFP still performs better than cobalt cathode in your cell phones. This problem may be solved when solid state batteries succeed

        • BenMHarvey on 12/01/2018 - 10:59

          @iratepirate:

          You should upgrade from the DRZ to something mroe capable!

        • iratepirate on 12/01/2018 - 12:24

          @BenMHarvey: Good guess but it's a 05 Yamaha XT250 setup for rock hopping/road/trail and chauffeuring a kelpie around to chase cattle. Got an XR600 for pure fun :)

        • BenMHarvey on 12/01/2018 - 14:04

          @iratepirate: Nice mate I began my love of dirt bikes on an XR400R if I could have found a 600 I would have got that but I went and joined the Orange Team in the end.

  • iratepirate on 11/01/2018 - 16:30
    +1

    I'm enjoying the negative votes for this deal - people should base their spending choices on their moral values.

  • FloatingPoint on 11/01/2018 - 17:53

    Costco sells similar stuff with 80Ah for $90.

    • virtual81 on 12/01/2018 - 21:08

      Probably 8Ah… if that!

  • useruser on 12/01/2018 - 23:59
    -1

    So is this thing actually any good or not? Politics aside I actually do need something like this for the car and bike in case of emergency when camping and whatnot. So is this a bargain or are there better products for similar prices out there?

    • iratepirate on 13/01/2018 - 07:02
      +1

      It's a good price, and I can vouch that it lasts longer and keeps charge better than the three others I've had that were Li-Ion batteries.

      If you are trying to jump start a V8 70 series land cruiser you would need a higher amp though.

  • mrwoo on 28/01/2018 - 09:22

    Unethical company that steals from Australian inventors and designers.

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