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Samsung 42" HD Plasma PS42C451B2D | $588 @ Harvey Norman Chadstone (Melb)

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Samsung 42" HD Plasma PS42C451B2D | $588 @ Harvey Norman Chadstone (Melb)
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Lharbert98 on 19/12/2010 - 15:32 harveynorman.com.au (1171 clicks)

Picked up a 42" Series 4 Samsung HD Plasma today from Harvey Norman Chadstone (Warrigal Rd) in Melbourne for $588. This was sticker price and the salesman said they had plenty in stock.

Good price for a name brand 42" HD (1024x768) plasma, I've been looking around this price range and it seems unlikely you'll get one much cheaper without going to a lesser known brand or with some haggling. Link is to HN website showing price @ $699 so I'm not sure if this is for all stores or just Chadstone.

General Product Type: Plasmas
Brand: Samsung
Features Connectivity: 3 x HDMI
Speakers: Down Firing
TV Features:
600Hz Subfield Motion, Clear Image Panel, Mega Dynamic Contrast
Screen Screen Definition: High Definition
Screen Resolution: 1024 x 768
Screen Size: 42"
Screen Type: Plasma
Audio System Speakers: Down Firing
Number of Speakers Included: 2
Connectivity Connectivity: 3 x HDMI
Power Power Consumption Sleep / Stand By: <0.3W
Dimensions Product Width (cm): 103.1
Product Depth (cm): 28.4
Product Height (cm): 69.4

Electrical & Electronics 42inch Plasma TV Samsung Samsung PS42C451 TV

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  • Talibanana on 19/12/2010 - 15:48

    sweet gonna try pick one up tommrow

  • R00D on 19/12/2010 - 16:07
    -2

    Great price… obviously because it isn't 1080P. Not that you can tell unless you compare bluray directly with a 1080P set, from 1m in front of the screen. Great value… good work!

    • Gnostikos on 21/12/2010 - 04:39

      If you sit beyond 2m from a Plasma/LCD screen (which I think is rather typical) your eyes cannot resolve the difference between 720 and 1080 resolutions…

  • nubzy on 19/12/2010 - 16:13
    +9

    hmm not quite tempting enough for me. if it was full hd I would bite, but standard hd is a bit outdated and once you see 1080p you cant go back.

    • camMMM on 19/12/2010 - 16:16
      +11

      yeah tru, people say you cant tell the diff, guess that makes me special then.
      easy difference between HD and Full HD.

      However, this is a great deal. 600$ for a 42".. is a good deal any which way.

      • StewBalls on 19/12/2010 - 17:09
        +3

        You may see a diff between 1024x768 & 1920x1080 - depending on how big the TV is, how close you sit and how well that particular set handles scaling of the images you watch - but you won't between 720p & 1080p once you're more than 2.5m away from a 42" set…the human eye can't resolve that difference…just google it! I've been tested at 20:15 vision & I can't see a difference! ;)

        Scaling on HDTVs is very individual…some 720p sets look great at 1080i, others look complete rubbish unless you drop them out of interlace mode! FWIW, all of mine look shite @ 1080i, I prefer 720p or even 480p over interlace for that matter! :p

        • R00D on 19/12/2010 - 18:19
          -2

          Spot on there.. thanks for saving me the trouble. ;-)

          • Anything other than bluray will not look better on a 1080P set either(HD TV is 1080i(720p) only), no matter how close you sit or how the JBHIFI salesmen has twisted your mind. The type of panel(LCD/Plasma/LED), contrast, motion speed(hz)and brand are all more relevant to what you see. Resolution not so much.
        • kimmik on 20/12/2010 - 06:29
          +1

          Marto, you got sucked into that Hurtz and LED bullshit neck deep

        • Gnostikos on 21/12/2010 - 04:41

          I've had the 50" inch version of the 4 Series Plasmas (1280x738) and they scale INCREDIBLY well, they actually look a damn sight better than 1080 Vieras, imo… particularly when playing up-scaled DVDs or TV content.

          The in-built tuner in these is fantastic at automatic configuration.

      • R00D on 20/12/2010 - 10:12
        +1

        Well… you're wrong kimmik. I own a Plasma, so Hz and LED don't bother me in the slightest. FAIL

    • fuzor on 19/12/2010 - 16:53

      How can you tell the difference. I've got a 1080i 50" plasma from a few years ago and it looks even better than my 1080p lcd. Don't know about shitty no-name brands but for me the difference is minimal or unnoticeable.

      • camMMM on 19/12/2010 - 17:01
        -3

        Isnt it sorta like the TV channels.
        Like 7 and 7HD,
        7 is broadcasted in HD whilst 7HD is broadcasted FULL HD.

        When swapping between them during the Grand final. geez, its a wonder why they bother showing it on 7.

        • StewBalls on 19/12/2010 - 17:18
          +3

          FWIW, AFAIK nobody transmits in full HD (1080p), only 1080i max! 1080p would use more bandwidth than the current network can handle IIRC! ;)

        • voter1 on 19/12/2010 - 18:54
          +3

          yes - nobody transmits in "full hd" 1080p - even on the 3 hd channels are copping a lot of flak for not transmitting in 1080i - they are simply upscaled 576.

          A better test would be for blu ray or games or computer playback.

      • [Deactivated] on 19/12/2010 - 18:00
        +2

        Plasma screens look better than LCD especially at a closer distance, they cant be compared.

      • freecandy on 20/12/2010 - 00:21

        are you even watching 1080p lol no offense but i can tell the difference between 1080p and 1600p and 720p etc

        • R00D on 20/12/2010 - 12:17

          You must have extraordinary site then. I've seen many enthusiasts, often industry leaders put in front of panels(720P V 1080P) for blind tests(same/similar specs other than resolution) and many get it wrong. Using 720P/1080i source there is simply no difference. Most take a stab in the dark with regards to 1080P material too. No one is saying the difference between DVD/bluray for example doesn't exist, it's the comparison of the same source on a 720P or 1080P panel that is negligible.

  • Yuri Lowell on 19/12/2010 - 16:16
    +7

    Maybe it's just me but 1024x768 is very noticeable, especially on a big TV like that.

  • GreatWhiteHunter on 19/12/2010 - 16:18
    +9

    My local Harvey Norman guy tells me prices of all current model TVs will be slashed immediately after Christmas.

    Unfortunately the Sony free PS3 promo also ends on Xmas day.

    However the Samsung one continues until early January so looks like I am getting a new Samsung 55" or 60" after Xmas…

    • furythree on 19/12/2010 - 16:39

      how much is the cheapest sony 3dtv? and how much is the ps3 promo worth?

  • slamdunka on 19/12/2010 - 16:19
    -4

    You can get the 50" for $725 pretty easily guys

    • fufufu on 19/12/2010 - 17:38
      +1

      What TV? Where? is it 1080P?

      • slamdunka on 20/12/2010 - 03:27

        The 50" version of this model. Ive got 4 for various family members in the last month from JB and Good Guys.

  • nubzy on 19/12/2010 - 17:05
    +1

    You wont have to wait long for another PS3 promo though, they are always on. I love my 40gb original PS3 that I got with the 40" sony bravia XBR. Damn tv cost $3400 but it looks better than anything on the market currently IMO.

    And yeah there is a big difference between 720p and 1080p thats for sure. only realy see it in blurays and games though. because TV broadcast is not in full hd and probably wont be for a very long time.

  • Jikx on 19/12/2010 - 17:11
    +1

    The difference in resolution is also lessened again by the fact it is a plasma. For the price, I'd say it's not worth getting 1080p at this screen size.

    If HN is already discounting this much - imagine after christmas!!!

    • R00D on 19/12/2010 - 18:24

      …and the technology advantage Plasma has(better contrast, no motion issues/superior for sport, more 'film-like' image will almost always give it the win over LCD, again dismissing the importance of resolution. LED is better, Plasmas are the value King!

      • StewBalls on 19/12/2010 - 18:28
        +5

        …unless you put it in a bright room! :p

      • qazwsx on 19/12/2010 - 22:06

        Plasma would still trump it over LED for most people for the same reason plasma trumps LCDs since LEDs and LCDs are basically the same TVs with a different backlight, so hence suffer from the same problems. There are a handful of exceptions to this, but they are often not the models that people tend to usually discuss.

    • furatallos on 19/12/2010 - 19:46

      I even think they are better for gaming to. To bad I already have a plasma and lcd or then i would be going for this

    • freecandy on 20/12/2010 - 00:23

      mate 1080p isn't enough even for a 42" lol you need atleast 1080p……………… in my opinion once 4000p tvs come out then you'll see……

  • ccrap on 19/12/2010 - 22:09
    +1

    dunno about vivo quality (yes i know it's an lcd and the samsung is a plasma) but for ~$100 more why not get full HD and 5 more inches - after all who couldn't use an extra few inches?

    47" Full HD Vivo with free delivery $698: http://dicksmith.com.au/product/GE6164/vivo-119cm-47-quot-fu…

    • Jikx on 19/12/2010 - 22:20
      +1

      Vivo.. I don't think so.

      • ccrap on 20/12/2010 - 01:16

        yeah as i said, dunno about vivo quality (anyone here got one?), just putting it out there for those keen on size vs price. Personally Im a fan of panasonic for plasmas and sony for lcds.

        edit: just saw the negs on the other comment hahaha obviously from the well endowed lolz

        • GreatWhiteHunter on 20/12/2010 - 07:17

          Vivo blows - get an extended warranty, you'll need it.

        • StewBalls on 20/12/2010 - 09:43

          I grabbed a 40" Vivo in the $499 special recently and it's a cracker of a set, no light bleeding on that, beautiful colours, fast channel changes…put it next to the BIL's 100Hz 42" Sammy for ref purposes & frankly, the MC made no difference…it stacked up quite well at under half Samsung price!

          I checked out the 47" in a DSE last week, looked just as good to me…hard to tell how it would go in darker environments thought coz trickie's was kinda bright! Kinda hard to tell anything at DSE though…they had a new 100Hz 40" Sammy set up so poorly it was juddering like hell!!! However, I completely agree…the 47" is outstanding value at $698! :)

          Frequently those who carry on over brands without a specific rationale about a known flaw are just ill-informed pseudo-elitist wannabe brand snobs! :p

        • camMMM on 20/12/2010 - 09:51

          my mate who works at DSE, says that they are just panasonic panels.

  • ugoagogo on 20/12/2010 - 01:13
    +1

    the difference between the vivo and the samsung 451 is probably minimal , dont forget the 451 is the absolute budget of their range..
    although the light bleeding through the vivo and the lack of blacks could be a problem

    • StewBalls on 20/12/2010 - 09:45

      No more light bleeding on mine than any other LCD set I've seen!

      Here's a tip for LCD owners…try out your sets 'Dynamic Backlight' option (if it has one)…the implementation on some is better than others of course, but it will also help you save power if you saved money over an LED back/edge lit job! ;)

  • kimmik on 20/12/2010 - 06:20
    +4

    From someone who had a 1024-720 plasma for 4 yrs….. DONT DO IT!!!!

    The resolution is crap! And it was obvious on the 40". If you get this you better be ok with SD and DVD, that's all the q you're going to get.

    If your eyes are younger than 50 you will no doubt see the problem even on day one.

    Also youll have aspect ratio problems sooner or later. E.g. Attaching computers, some DVDs etc.

    1366-768 min for any tv, then fullhd for 55" or larger.

    On such low res plasma, you'll also notice dithering patterns… Plasma achieve mid tones by temporal and spatial dithering, both of which are not required by lcd. A typical LCD will display any tone from 0-255 on every pixel at any time, where as plasma has to flicker and either to achieve them. Not obvious on a 1080p plasma, but will be on this.

  • hesokay on 20/12/2010 - 08:39

    As with other posts I don't understand all the hype over FULL HD, there is a difference sure but IMO it's not that noticeable unless you're playing BR or playing a PS3 or Xbox360 in which case you'd be better off with a smaller 32" LCD or LED anyway). Also I agree that Plasma is superior for TV and Movies to LCD mainly for contrast (which is IMO more noticeable than the resolution).

    I picked up this LG 42" TV at JBHIFI the other day for $600 (can post copy of receipt if needed).
    http://www.jbhifi.com.au/tv-lcd-led-plasma/lg/42-inch-high-d…

    Decent unit because of USB HDD movie playback (mostly watch avi's which are around 576p they look and sound great).

  • [Deactivated] on 20/12/2010 - 10:06
    +1

    I got one of these about 6 weeks ago @ JB (for $600), great TV.
    Has all the USB play back stuff.

    Picture so clear you could see the tears welling up in the pom's eyes when Harris was going through them like week old curry.

  • iNeedMoreMoney on 20/12/2010 - 12:24

    damn, not in qld

  • madturbo123 on 21/12/2010 - 07:43

    Felixco I'm sure u can ask a local HN to match it easy. I've done it before

  • Marty131 on 21/12/2010 - 23:30

    Just to clear up some technical information (not trying to troll or join any sides)
    The TV advertised is 1024x768 (0.79MP), 720P = 1280x720 (0.92MP) and 1080P = 1920x1080 (2.1MP).

    So when comparing it's resolution, in terms of pixel number, it is actually slightly lower than a 720P TV. Note: most non 1080P TVs are actually 1366x768 (1.05MP).

    Hope that helps!

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