I noticed that the Coles catalogue states that free plastic bags will end by 1 July and that you can now buy the 80% recycled ones for 15 cents. Will you be stockpiling the free plastic bags before 1 July?
Supermarket Plastic Bags
Lcapslock on 16/03/2018 - 13:22
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Geez a bunch of first world problem people in this forum. Adelaide got rid of plastic bag ages ago and they're doing fine.
People adapt, change and get on with life. Buy a fabric bag and take it with you. It's not that hard, thousands of people are doing it in Sydney.
People just want to be spoon fed these days. It's crazy how high the bar is that people think they're entitled. Here's a news flash, NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO ANYTHING.
It’s not about being entitled. This ban on bags and the cds from last year is increasing the living costs for nsw residents. Sydney is the largest and most expensive city in Australia. This policy will add more financial stress to people that are already struggling with day to day expenses.
So you're saying, you don't wan't to buy, lets say 5 x fabric bags for $1 each? That's $5. You're going to get financial stress because a once off $5 transaction is going to affect your life so dramatically that you need to refinance your whole life?
If people cannot afford fabric bags, why they be shopping at coles or woolies then? They are overpriced anyways, we all know that. Go to Aldi or something.
fabric bags
what type of material are you referring to when you say fabric bags?
coles and woolworths have been providing free plastic shopping bags for decades. they'll stop doing that in a few months not because of environmental reasons. they're doing it so that they can sell bin liners and tote bags. any consumers that thinks otherwise is confused.
Frabic bags: Could be anywhere from cotton to linen bags as you like to call them: tote bags.
If it's a money making scheme then how come Adelaide did it years and years ago? It goes both ways, both the environment and profit. Of course a company would change their outlook if there's some type of profit involved.
Though that's your theory. Another theory if they're not making profit then they will jack up prices in their products to make up the loss.
It's common business practice to shift sales cost to another section of the business to make up loss, if business practices changes.
Just because they have been giving free plastic bags for decades, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Its just the norm and they finally woken up about plastics and the environment.
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cotton to linen bags as you like to call them: tote bags.
Cotton tote or canvas linen bags are not environmentally friendly. Purchasing five of these for shopping would be worse for the environment than 600 hdpe shopping bags.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/tote…
But tote bags have a high carbon footprint, too. In fact, reusing a single plastic bag three times has the same environmental impact as using a cotton tote bag 393 times.
Stop pretending that plastic bags have been banned just because thicker plastic bags are being sold. Sure people adapt. They'll adapt to paying 15c a bag, and then the price will be brought up and up until the Supermarket adapts to a nice fat profit.
Just like the crappy 10c/container recycling tax. You can't crush them, so a falcon wagon boot loaded up one layer high with boxes of empty coke can gets you $35. 1st hand experience. So almost no one bothers. But everyone pays 10c more per container and just chalks it up to a cost of living increase if they can afford it.
If 1 in 10 people working for these environmental schemes actually gave a rats ass about the environment, we'd have much less of a problem.
But everyone pays 10c more per container
It’s more than the 10c.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/08/coca-…
Coca Cola-Amatil has increased prices by 13.6c per container, excluding GST, or more than $3.20 for a 24-drink carton of soft drink or water,Good point.
plus local councils taking their pound of flesh for wastes services.
I'm not sure how this scheme is supposed to stop litter. Before this silly scheme, I was anti-litter - always put my rubbish in the bin.
Now that I'm paying 10c (or more?) extra to the government/council to recycle my empty drink containers, i'm happy to leave them behind in parks etc. I'd rather that some kid gets to earn some pocket money by collecting them or that the council does some work to earn the 10c I'm now being charged so that they clean up after me.
You want to reduce waste? Supermarkets should be offering the boxes that the products come in to the customer for free to take them home in. Instead they cut them up and "recycle" them. Though you use to be able to request them for packing your belongings if moving house. Is that still happening?
I don't think there will be enough boxes to go around.
I think recycling rates will also start to drop as more people reuse newspaper and cardboard boxes. Sometimes I eat some pistachios and then wrap the scraps with the woolworths catalogue.
I know my recycling rate for those items has dropped quite a lot.
Aldi is usually good at giving away boxes.
The unintended consequences are going to be lower recycling rates for junk mail and newspapers.
Good Grief, to be honest, I don't know when the last time was I recycled any junk mail.
All my junk mail goes straight from the letter box into the recycling bin. I wish I could opt out.
Or they could go back to using brown paper bags like they did years ago, you know the ones that biodegrade!
I used to use the grocery bags as bin bags, now i have to buy bin liners. Exact same plastic - i just have to pay for it and not re-use it.
Yeah great idea, the bloody idiots.It is. For them. They get more money.
You're not looking at the bigger picture. Sure the plastic bags you buy from the shelf for bin liners are there for purchase, but not everyone will buy them. Either they will use existing bags, no bags etc.
Your statement is assuming that everyone that buys from the supermarket uses the bags for bin liners. I know people that just throw their rubbish in boxes or just straight in the bin then wash their bin. There's nothing wrong with that.
Bin liners is a tool to make rubbish easier to carry and consolidate.
Food for thought article, which supports your argument.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/specials/curious-canberra/2017-08…
A majority of people aren't going to go out and buy bin liners. I know I am not.
Then they'll just wash detergents down the drain cleaning the bins. Actually reducing your impact instead of just getting a warm and fuzzy feeling isn't so easy.
Have they been tracking the whole impact. Bin liners, the new "reusable" bags (how often are these reused), the "green", "sturdy" reusable bags (that rip very easily). Working out the impact isn't so easy.
Actually there is something wrong with that - it's not allowed where i live, and i'm sure lots of other places have the same rules.
All rubbish must be placed in a bag or bin liner before placing in the shared bins.My statement isn't assuming anything nor is it talking about anyone except myself - also your argument is extremely flawed, as those same people who aren't buying bin liners could of also not taken the plastic bags from the shop in the first place and instead "just throw their shopping in boxes or just straight in the car" as many people already did.
The old Woolies bags would break up in no time at all, especially if affected by UV. Do the bin liners fall apart as quickly?
it takes the same amount of energy to make one reusable bag (aldi bags) as it does to make 130 plastic bags…
so if you dont use your reusable bags 130 times before throwing it out. than its more environmentally friendly to use plastic bags.i think we only ever use our reusable bags about…25 times or less…. before they break
….soooooo if we are JUST talking about animals choking to death, then yeah, go reusable…excuse me what is plastic bag? sorry Adelaideans new to this.
Don't worry, Sydney people are special people that doesn't like change and when changes happen, they freak out and create theories that are illogical.
Sucks to be you, but welcome to the club. Watch out for crushed bread. Living in SA I've noticed the checkout staff try to cram everything into one or 2 bags (in an attempt to save the planet). I also have literally hundreds of 15c plastic bags in the cupboard as I forget to take them back.
So what happens when I rock up to the till with $300 worth of shopping and no bags. I refuse to buy the 'recyclable' bags on sale and instead insist on making 40 armload trips to and from my car with the items thereby holding up the checkout.
Just use the fruit bags, they will be free even in Aldi.
Lol I've bought a single piece of fruit in Aldi so I'd have a bag to put my other stuff in. Wasn't sure about just taking a free bag :)
They'll Jack up the price of the bin liners .
Where can you buy bulk of these bags that woolies and coles get ??????
This seems like the best solution, bulk buy rolls of the existing plastic bags and leave the roll in the car door. Scalable solution that can do double duty as shopping bags and bin liners.
No thanks. They don't go on the bag holder easily once you've pulled them off.
You can grab the whole roll from Coles self checkout. They are free so wouldn't be classified as shoplifting? Time is running up.
$1 plastic bag tax for pickup orders at Woolies now, lol.
Why cant Woolies come around to my house and pickup my reusable bags, take them back to the warehouse and use them. That's what they expect me to do if I want to shop in their store!
Why can't they just use the boxes the products came in to ship them out to customers instead of crushing them?
I'll tell you why: Greed. This is not about the environment. That is an excuse to make people pay for plastic.
Sir, there is a $3.50 charge. Thanks for helping our
environmentrevenue.
Coles have back flipped, bags now free indefinitely
Is this confirmed? Coles email received this week advertised free bags but those email flyers aren't always accurate.
It was a story in the daily telegraph
I don't understand if the majors are so serious why there isn't some scheme where you can return the plastic bags (subject to them being in good condition - handles in tact, no holes etc. etc.) and get at least a store credit onto your Woolworths/Coles card. I have about 30 of these bags and wouldn't mind an extra $5 or thereabouts in my pocket on my next spend. As someone who does not take a car to work and doesn't work in one fixed location I don't want to carry a bag the whole day just so I can use it at the end of the day to buy groceries. I've tried to only do one big shop each week but even still it's a hassle (I don't have anyone to help my carry bulk groceries around, I can only imagine how it is for seniors who live alone and find it difficult to even walk) and I'm bad at guessing how many bags I need to store multiple litre drinks etc. I really don't understand why there isn't some low-level recycling scheme. As is I'm now using my excess in the same way I used my old ones… being used as garbage bags and thrown in the rubbish (and definitely NOT reused as per the apparent goal of this environmental campaign).
I also feel like a Coles/Aldi/Woolies rep every time I carry all these bags around. I loved the plastic grey ones. Yes, some thought it was a marker for being 'povo' (and it is still being used by the Salvos? for family Christmas appeals) but I liked them because a) they were light and b) I didn't feel like I was broadcasting where I shop to all and sundry. They also seem to degrade more than these heavily sheeted plastic ones, which are cumbersome. These don't tie up securely and are usually too large for my shop or if I'm doing a big shop insufficient (I find myself needing 4-5 of these silly things to pack my cordials, soft drink, milk, laundry powder etc. etc.)
Bring back the grey, or maybe make them yellow so the turtles see them etc.
What i like is that Coles and Woolies are doing this for environmental reasons not profit LOL
cost of grey bags = 1.5 cents sold for 0 cents
cost of reuseable = 3.5 cents sell for 15 cents
Total additional profit per bag 13 cents
but they are doing it for the environment
In SA you can still collect plastic bags by having Woolies deliver your groceries.