I've had a Breville dual boiler for the past ~2 years and then suddenly it blew up.
I'm after a more durable machine. After some research, I really like the Rocket Mozzafiato. They are currently on sale for ~$2990 which is a saving of ~$260 off RRP. For example
Has anyone purchased a Rocket or similar coffee machine, and managed to secure a better price?
Any tips v welcome!
Currently on sale though, doesn't that count for something?
No, it's still a $2990 loss.
Yes, but at least by getting it on sale he's not losing $3250.
You would think it would come with wifi.
And with a gorgeous barista to make the coffee!
What an incredible 8% discount which amounts to $259.00 cheaper than retail! And it is also a time machine because it dispatches in 1-2 days time and it arrives back in time to May 2017!
Don't forget about the warranty though, added warranty for 5 years is $110ish a year which isn't bad at all.
If you're going to buy a machine that's worth $3k, you should probably get warranty because it's more likely that it'll spring a leak sooner or later.
You'll have to weigh that up with the risk that in 5 years time if it suffers from a gasket leak or wearing of the group head you could be up for an expensive repair.
added warranty for 5 years is $110ish a year which isn't bad at all.
Hahaha.
Another person paying crazy money for useless warranties. Literally useless as in your already covered by ACL.
Yeah sorry good point.
My bad on that one. I've only ever worked as a barista and warranties were generally purchased so we could actually get the repair man on site without a battle with the company.
Exclude my advice about purchasing warranty. After reading JetBlack's warranty page they look to be compliant with the ACL
What is a reasonable time frame for the machine to work without breaking down??
I had an Expobar Minore 3 which cost 3k. Failed after the 3rd year. Warranty was only 1 year. Cost $500 to fix. Failed again at the 6 year mark and another $500 repair. Fixed it and sold it. Went with the Breville Oracle after that.
I don't know the specifics but if I paid $3K for an appliance I would be expecting 10 years out of it
@Quantumcat:
These machines, barring pump replacements (get the pun?), are heirloom quality. You can pass them down to your grandkids.
Alternatively, get a lever press and you halve the number of pump failures. ROCKET makes one too.
You would think so. Once bitten twice shy now. In the first fault it started leaking inside. 2nd fault was the PID. Mind you the Expobar is made in Spain and not Italy. Could be a quality control issue. Thought it was rather ironic that the cheap department store coffee machines offered better warranties than the prosumer counterparts. At least the Oracle has a 2 year warranty as well as the extra year from using my mastercard platinum. Just like cars, only recently have the luxury car brands been extending their warranties to keep up with the cheaper brands and about time too.
Have you ever tried enforcing ACL it retailer or manufacture refuses to help?
At that price i would buy 2 of them
I'm looking at rockets at the moment
Theyre meant to last 25 years with the e61 group head and all metal
Gl
Overseas ones from Italy can be had for about $2300
I've had a Rocket for over 6 years teamed with a Mazzer grinder, and love them both. Used daily, some minor malfunctions which I fixed myself (lots of online instructions) with parts purchased online.
Wouldn't be Italian if it didn't break down every now and again
Hold on a sec. I owned an AlfaRomeo and…
Oh yeah. I see what you mean.
Carry on.
Blowing up and Rockets. Man, jees indeed.
Not the sort of thing you want to read about first thing in the morning.
(Well not without a cup of coffee first)
A true ozbargainer would get an aeropress for under $40 delivered.
Weighs 23 Kilos..? Wow !
You could buy a coffee every day for 2 years for the price of that machine.
you own the machine after 2 yrs
It will break in 2 yrs.
True, but I didn't factor in the cost of the coffee beans, milk, sugar, extended warranty and servicing. Plus the effort of making it yourself and cleaning up each time.
Get a Chemex.
I bought mine in 2009 (it was branded Giotto back then). High-quality stuff. Hasn't skipped a beat and even the metal body hasn't got a rust on it.
Buy it and learn to use it well. You will not regret it.
I bought a Lelit Mara from jetblackespresso about 18 months ago and it's going great guns. Looks fantastic in its chrome and it makes a great cup of coffee. I am very happy with the machine and the Lelit grinder I purchased too, but if I had to purchase again I would probably put a bit more money into the grinder (not that the existing one is bad). But I was driven by a budget and space considerations too and the Lelit Mara fit both of these.
Yes it was expensive machine, but I work from home and have enjoyed learning how to make a good coffee myself. If you can find a local roaster nearby then that really helps as you are best to buy smaller quantities of freshly roasted beans every couple of weeks than a large quantity of stale ones.
I don't drink coffee
Can a $3000 machine really make the coffee that much better than a $300—500 machine?
Or is it more about the longevity?
A $500 machine typically is a single pump that is shared between the group head (coffee grind water passing through part) and the steam wand. It is usually a low quality pump and heating elements too. Over time, the pump loses its power and the pressure drops, and the heating elements deteriorate and the water isn't at the right temp.
So whilst it may make fantastic coffees for the first few months, you'll be left wonderring why the machine isn't as consistent as before.
It's about longevity and consistency.
Also note that you need different temperatures for brewing the coffee and steaming the milk. So on the cheap single boiler machines you need to wait for device to heat up or cool down in between brewing/steaming. This can make it quite tedious if you are making coffee for a number of people.
No no no no.
You don't buy a $3,000 machine to make your mates a cuppa. They get Blend43. If you must, Nespresso.
a true ozbarginer will get it.
it will last you 10 years or more.
$3k machine?! Jees