Got this in the email. $65 Feel Good blend plus free shipping.
That's about $8.125 per 250g
Pretty decent for good beans.
St Ali Feel Good Coffee Beans $65 for 2kg + Free Shipping
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Great input. Care to explain why?
never buying St Ali again
We're going to need more information than that.
Are they a scam, are the beans poisonous? are they infested with Russian bots?
We need to know!
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/343807 bought from this deal, very weak coffee. Brought it into work thought maybe the guys would finish it, got thrown out
very weak coffee
Will avoid then, thanks for the heads-up!
Bring beans into work ….what run grinder in office while people work ….
very weak coffee
Can you elaborate on that? "Weak" is more typically reserved for describing the preparation of the coffee, not the coffee itself. How were you preparing the coffee? What did you try to make the coffee stronger and more to your taste?
@Mentok: What could I possibly do to make the taste stronger ? Drink it black? I add frothed milk to my coffee. I use one of these at home:
http://www.delonghi.com/en-au/products/coffee/coffee-makers/…I'm not sure your interpretation of the bean strength makes this any less of a valid deal/worth negging for.
I personally have no issues with the strength of St Ali coffee via any method of brewing and think this is a pretty good price for beans in general. (V60, espresso, cold brew)Maybe this is a different blend hey?
@PAOK11: It's all in the grind. Grind too fine and over extract leaving bitter flavours, too coarse and the coffee is weak and lacks flavour.
@Hypnotoad: I'm not going to claim to be a pro & I don't have a smart grinder but when I grind the beans from the local cafe it's fine. I don't have time to make sure I grind the beans to perfection, it takes me 15 mins to make a coffee. I don't need extra steps.
@PAOK11:
Thanks for clarifying. As Hypnotoad says above, a finer grind will give you a "stronger" cup but I'm going to guess that don't have a grinder and that you ordered pre-ground?You could possibly ask St Ali to grind finer than usual, or keep your eyes open for the next Myer deal on the Breville smart, the latter would be a much, much better option.
Or you could just stick to what you know and buy from places you know suit your tastes. Probably doesn't warrant a neg though when the issue is really with the process, not the product.
@PAOK11: So you just admitted to not making time to grind the beans properly? And you blame this company's beans when it is probably your laziness. And how long do you have machine running for? And do you apply 30 pounds of pressure to it before extracting?
@Mentok: I grind my own beans with a cheapie from DJ, I don't understand why you are wholeheartedly defending the product when you haven't even tried it ? Maybe buy the product then let me know. ALso this is not completely directed at you Mentok but also the zelda guy
@PAOK11:
Honestly just trying to understand why you were so unhappy with the beans that it warranted a neg. I've bought their beans in the past and been quite happy with them, they have a very good reputation and I doubt they would knowingly put out a low quality product.Describing a coffee bean as generically flawed using words like "weak" or "burnt" is typically a problem with brew method, or there is a significant divergence between the taste the roaster/cafe is trying to produce and the taste the consumer expects. Bad beans are ultimately pretty uncommon, particularly from good roasters, hence why I asked how you prepared the coffee.
Coffee is highly subjective though - you do you, drink what you like, how you like it and don't waste time doing it.
I bought from the previous deal. Had no problems with it - though I run a dual boiler setup with a conical grinder. Maybe different to whatever 'cheapie' grinder you have.
@Hypnotoad: I was wondering that too, perhaps under-extracted though you'd think with hit/miss there'd be a few good cups in 2kg worth of extractions? I'm looking for coffee atm, after finishing Manna beans off.
Would really luv a good P & R deal right now! mhmmmmmm
@PAOK11: that's bs. I've had really bad coffee from some of the best establishments with the best equipment in the industry. This concept applies on a home and commercial level. Having good equipment doesn't make good coffee. Having good coffee beans doesn't make good coffee. That being said, having bad coffee beans, or bad/dirty equipment makes it very difficult / impossible to make good coffee.
Making good coffee requires a combination of good/clean equipment, and it helps to start with good coffee. It takes further knowledge and care to prepare a good coffee that transparently communicates the hard work that traverses the entire supply chain.That being said, you can make perfectly reasonable coffee with really simple equipment, provided you have the requisite knowledge. "Simple equipment + requisite knowledge" means things like, having a burr grinder, not a blade. Not pre-grinding more than 24 hours before making your coffee. Having clean equipment, good water, and knowing how to change your variables to adjust the taste. (e.g. over-extracted / bitter = one of decrease temp, increase grind size, brew for shorter period of time, etc. etc. under-extracted / sour = the opposite. Most importantly, need an even extraction = consistent grind size, well distributed grounds).
gotta keep an eye out for those Russian bots in my beans, what if they sway my vote at the next election??????
Exactly! Hillary has already been Shirtfronted, who's next?
What if 7/11 hire cambridge analtytica. To promte their coffee on facebook…..forget russian trolls
Just don't google it!
I bought from the last deal too. St Ali beans are Ok but they lose freshness very quickly compared to a few others I use regularly. Probably better to buy in smaller quantities if you're not going to use it quickly.
I bought one of their deals too - and I was pretty disappointed. Had to work very hard to get a decent amount of flavour out of them. Beans that I've had from Sweet Yarra, Manna Beans and CoffeeSnobs have been much more generous on the flavour front - not sure quite why. It may have been freshness, but it is the old story - one bad experience (even with an attractive 'special') and I'm loath to go back and risk confirming my opinion.
A pity. They do (did?) have a decent reputation in Melbourne. :-(
Coffeesnobs is a great choice for beans. Though, a true ozbargainer would buy the green beans and roaster from coffeesnobs and roast themselves! It's actually pretty easy and is probably the #1 thing you can do to improve your coffee.
Oh, and it drops the cost per cup a lot. I paid off the roaster in a year vs buying retail beans.
Do you have any links handy? ;)
https://coffeesnobs.com.au/ General coffee enthusiast site. They run "Beanbay" (http://beanbay.coffeesnobs.com.au/) where oyu can buy green beans and a roaster. Great service; stuff ships same day (or next) it seems and prices are good. They do roasted and green beans.
The best thing about green beans is that they keep (some say forever, there's a cafe in Tokyo where you can drink 40 year old beans) at least ~2 years without issue, so I just find ones I like, stock up, then roast as I need to. I think the sweet spot is drinking 2-3 weeks after roasting, so I always just roast what I need when I need it so that it's ready at the optimal time.
It's stupidly easy IMO vs the mystique of what you think it might entail. With a Behmor roaster, I can start to finish roast 350gm of coffee in ~ 30 mins total time, with maybe 6-7 mins of actual work. It's far cheaper and it's better. I got my roaster in early 2015 and it paid for itself by the end of the year.
And home roasted coffee is a great gift for anyone who drinks coffee.
These 'hipster' roasters in Melbourne tend to be lighter than your traditional espresso roast and usually need 'semi-commercial' equipment to get decent results from them. Just a 'heads' 'up'
A lighter roast will give you different characteristics - you won't need a commercial setup but you might need to consider the roast profile when you choose style e.g. pourover/v60 vs cold brew vs espresso vs turkish
I didnt have much problems with their bean..
Don't Worry about Paok, he's the kind of prison to neg because 'the beans made my machine not work' when he just hasn't pressed the on button
lol
A bit unfair. I think that I know a reasonable bit about coffee beans. And machines. And grinders. And I was pretty underwhelmed by the same St.Ali offer as was PAOK11.
These beans turned out to be delicious
I ended up not receiving mine and am currently awaiting the PayPal dispute to be settled. Sigh
never buying St Ali again