News Item this past week... Turns out she keyed the car(s) as got tired of them being parked across footpaths...

I did wonder when the news reported that a woman was caught & charged after camera evidence was provided when she was seen 'keying' a car. I must say there have been a number of times I've gone for an evening walk and had to walk around said parked vehicles across the footpath. This may apply more in the outer suburban areas in my example. Most often it can be seen that the owner could surely have parked very nearby to their residence (home) but they somehow seem to have no issue whatsoever in parking directly over top of a footpath.

I couldn't help but notice that certain residences would do this regularly so is not even just a more forgivable 'one off' event. Seems terrible bloody minded and selfish IMO. Not saying keying cars is the right thing to do, but it is disheartening to see that some are so oblivious and unconcerned about others.

Wondering what other think on the matter. Thanks in advance for keeping it civil!

Comments

  • Isn't that just what she claims though? Has it been confirmed that the car owner was actually obstructing the footpath? I'm just going off based on the article I read this morning, where it seems more like a he said, she said kinda thing.

    In any case, if a vehicle is obstructing a footpath, probably best report it to the council. They would probably send someone out to issue a fine. They would love the extra revenue after all.

    • +1

      Councils won't send someone out just based off a one off call. Well at least none of the councils I've called have. They'll only do it if it's a frequent issue that many people have complained about, usually they'll need months of complaints about the same vehicle before they'll bother.

      Most councils don't give a shit as long as the vehicle isn't obstructing any road way. Pedestrians are not respected at all.

      • Brisbane council has vehicles that take photos and then they issue fines. Worker doesn't even leave the vehicle they just need to drive by.

  • +6

    It’s unfortunate, but it seems more and more people are acting in their best interests with no regard for others. I see it daily, car parks, reckless driving, rudeness at stores etc. parking over a footpath is another example. These sort of behaviours are just saying “my needs are more imprortant than yours” without understanding how these behaviours can impact on others. I just hope people can find the ability to be a bit more considerate of others.

    • +1

      I tend to agree (thank you for staying on topic as well).

    • +7

      people are acting in their best interests with no regard for others.

      These sort of behaviours are just saying “my needs are more imprortant than yours”

      I can't say that this is a surprise… the majority of people don't care about others as long as their "rights" or "needs" have been met. I generally don't like it when people are always asking "what about me?". Everything is "me!, me!, me!".

      Everyone needs to look around and realise there's other people living in this world and be a little more considerate.

  • With all the shit going on in the world right now, I'm surprised this made the news.

    • +2

      It's just click bait

    • manners and social conscience are a non- issue?

  • +1

    Heard today on ABC Radio National news: a man was caught inside a house by the resident and claimed he was escaping a cassowary.

    Clearly these are both very important stories and we would be so much worse off not knowing these important events!

    • +2

      Lets just hope the man and the Cassowary are doing well.

  • https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/04/12/18/42/vaucluse-…
    It was absolutely parked legally,

    hmm. is there a difference to where a driver may park and block access to a driveway?

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/the-express/man-…
    “Parking across a driveway, even if it is your own driveway, is a safety issue as it stops emergency services from having easy access to the property and it can ­obstruct the line of sight for other drivers entering and exiting other nearby properties,”

    • +4

      My understanding is that you cannot park on the driveway unless you are wholly within the property boundary. Ie that Parking across the Nature strip is not within the law. The same as parking with wheels up on the kerb (parallel to the road) is also illegal.

  • +2

    On the dash cam video it seemed there was plenty of room for pedestrians.

    • +1

      But the law is don't obstruct the footpath, so even if 99% of the footpath was available, it's still obstruction and is against the law. (Totally not condoning what she did at all)

      Also, I haven't seen the footage so I am genuinely asking, was there enough space for someone in a wheelchair, or an elderly person in a mobility scooter (usually massive in size and can take up the whole footpath)?

      • Thing that goes through my mind as well - I'd be willing to bet that historically the vehicle(s) in question more typically was parked across the footpath.

        On the day of the video capture - funny enough the owner had the car parked correctly. I doubt she would have developed the desire to scratch any vehicles if they had never been parked on/across the footpath. Too bad she hadn't taken pictures of the cars parked illegally over recents months, may have given her some credibility. I think many (most of us?) could get a little pissy' having to weave around parked cars if especially rushing to get to trains/buses every morning. Lets not even mention stepping into unseen divots and dog sh*t left in the grass by other unconscious dog owners while walking their dogs… (alas another forum issue).

        • Totally right, the vehicle is probably more often than not, parked further forward.

          She should have been taking photo evidence of every occasion. That's the logical thing to do if it irks you. Send that to council and bam there's your proof for a fine right there.

          Somewhat related, I saw a video of a pedestrian crossing at signals where a car had blocked the pedestrian crossing. He just jumped into the back seat, swore at the driver, and hopped out the other side. (This was in Russia). So no damage to property, but an interesting lesson for the driver.

    • -1

      What about months before. I'd be willing to bet the owner of the car very often parks directly over the footpath.
      Let's face it, he recorded the evidence while and when it could be seen there was room for pedestrians on the footpath.

  • -3

    Seems terrible bloody minded and selfish IMO

    Its crazy having to walk around a car. I cant believe society has allowed things like this to eventuate… Actually having to walk off a straight line and around a car.

    • Seriously? If pedestrians were just walking all over the road you'd probably chuck a spaz. If we allocate space for different road users, let's all be considerate and stick to that space.

      • Have you driven through any metropolitan hub at any time ever? Let me think of an example. Melbourne. Sydney. Hmmmmm. What else.

        • You've literally just proven my point, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. We all need to be considerate of space allocated to other road users.

        • @jjjaar:

          If pedestrians were just walking all over the road you'd probably chuck a spaz

          You

          Have you driven through any metropolitan hub at any time ever?

          Me

          You've literally just proven my point, and I wholeheartedly agree with you.

          You

          Me: WHAT?!?! (-_-)

        • @TheBilly: You stated that peds walk on the road, showing your dislike for them doing this, though you think it's ok for cars to park over the footpath. You can't be ok with one and not the other. That's very hypocritical.

          I agree peds shouldn't be walking on the road. But I also don't think cars should park on the footpath.

        • @jjjaar:

          I still fail to see how you got that. I didnt say anything you are claiming. You've just created this whole thing in your mind and its playing out between you and you.

        • @TheBilly: then why bother bringing up when peds use the roadway?

        • @jjjaar:

          The only point I sarcastically made was, the way she reacted to having a car being parked in her path of travel was way over the top. Causing damage to somebody over an avoidable inconvenience is not the correct thing to do. Her keying motor vehicles for being in her way are the equivalent of a driver just throwing their hands up and saying if somebody comes in my way I will run them over, I will not try to avoid the collision or put on my brakes. Both are completely over the top reactions. But the topic we are discussing is not a car running people over, we are discussing a woman actually keying motor vehicles.

          This was my sarcastic comment, implying that the lady whilst being inconvenienced could have just ignored or done something else about this perceived issue in her life. It's like a taxi driver on a Saturday night in the city, they are constantly looking out for drunken idiots running onto or across the road. If their solution was to just run the people over, this would be completely inappropriate and inexcusable no matter how drunk the person is. Likewise no matter how often or how annoying a car over a driveway is, the keying of said motor vehicle is in excusable. She could've just walked round the car and followed through with a legal solution to her problem.

          Its crazy having to walk around a car. I cant believe society has allowed things like this to eventuate… Actually having to walk off a straight line and around a car.

  • -1

    Nothing wrong with parking on the driveway as long as it doesn't block the footpath. The car in the dashcam video was perfectly placed considering it's a giant Audi SUV. If the government wants a massive population in our cities, this will eventually happen. Finding street parking is a chore these days.

    The people in Vaucluse provide jobs to people. Let them park across an effing driveway

    • +2

      http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/park…

      It is illegal to park on your driveway outside you property boundary.

      I don’t condone her actions though.

      • Sorry, but in my area of Sydney it's common. We have no where else to park and the council understands this.

        • +2

          Doesn’t make it legal, and if someone complains about not being able to see out of their driveway or does park across the footpath, or even worse a kid gets hit by a car that will change.

        • +2

          Some councils in nsw now have online reporting. See a vehicle that you don’t like and perhaps parked illegally? Snap it with your phone and report it.

        • -1

          @Euphemistic:

          Been doing it for years. I shall continue to do it.

        • @smuggler: even if you could move a little forward/backward and not be overtop of the footpath?

        • +1

          @whooah1979: For those wondering, many in Vic have this too, including City of Melb.

        • @smuggler: it doesn’t really matter if you continue to do it, just as long as you are aware you could be fined, although he chances are slim.

          Every now and then you hear a news story about people complaining they have been fined despite ‘always’ doing it and ‘never’ being fined for it. All it takes is a change of policy, a new ranger or a complaint.

  • You can't condone this woman's actions from any angle. Fact is a nice Audi is properly parked & she's is walking, jealousy kicks in & she takes out her frustrations by keying the bonnet multiple times.
    I say the fine is too small should be double that & made to pay for damages.

    • +2
      • -2

        In that area, it's okay. Police and council don't mind.

        • +1

          Police and council don't mind.

          They don’t mind because of its affluence.

        • @whooah1979:

          It's the same in the inner-west and inner city too. People don't necessarily have enough space on their property to park their multiple cars.

        • @whooah1979: or did you mean effluence? Rich people think their sh.. doesn't stink.

        • @Euphemistic:

          effluence

          lol.

      • That was interesting - thanks for adding.

  • I live in the inner suburbs. On a number of occasions I've had cars parked on the road directly in front of my driveway, blocking me in.

    I call the council, they can't do anything, expect maybe send a parking ranger to issue a fine. I call the police, they can't do anything. As someone who is blocked in, I don't seem to have any recourse to have a car moved out of the way (for example by calling a tow truck).

    • Doesn't seem right to me. I can only imagine the frustration when such a thing happens.

  • I don't think we should condone putting up with those who regularly park across footpaths, be it their own driveway or otherwise.

    This is far more the point IMO. Certainly in my example, being in the outer suburbs. 98% of the time the owner could have either moved forward a little or parked the road within say a 2-6 car parking distance.

    Someone else ridiculed by saying 'Its crazy having to walk around a car. I cant believe society has allowed things like this to eventuate… Actually having to walk off a straight line and around a car.'

    Couldn't that be equally (or more) contended with… 'Its crazy that the owner of a car couldn't move forward 1 meter, or park within 6 spaces on the front road and have to take 1 minute longer to get to the front door'.

    Far more the issue IMO is that some are so self-absorbed that even if they could just move ahead a little or park a very short distance away - they opt not to, yet inconvenience so many more.

    Strange to me to some will take the 'bloody minded' option when often little effort is required to do… how do we say… 'do the right thing'.

  • -1

    People parking on footpaths is annoying but hardly worth getting upset over. It's one of those everyday things that is small and you just walk on by and carry on with your life.

    As a Q5 driver, I hope she loses her employment and is subsequently cleaned out by the Insurance Company.

    • +1

      Seems a somewhat self righteous and self absorbed attitude.

      Even if I myself had a prestigious car I could not think this way.

    • Now we have tribes based on skin colour, religion, place of birth and choice of vehicle?

  • +1

    Keying the car was a bridge too far.

    That said, cars parked across the footpath is a pet peeve of mine. Not for my own sake, I can usually walk around them. But when you're pushing a pram and suddenly have nowhere to go except the road? Or a kid on a bike is completely blocked? That's seriously unsafe. I always report to my council.

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