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IRONWOLF 8TB NAS (ST8000VN0022)
IRONWOLF 8TB NAS 3.5IN 7200RPM 6Gb/S SATA 256MB AU $297.60 free postage
Seagate IronWolf 8TB NAS (ST8000VN0022) $297.60 Delivered @ Futu_Online on eBay
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ben1103 on 22/05/2018 - 13:47 ebay.com.au (1665 clicks)
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ooo 8TB under $300, I'm temping to pull the trigger on this one!
Why is this a good deal apart from being 20% off?
Isn't 20% enough?
Well, realistically it's more like 5% considering futu_online jack up their prices before every eBay sale.
That is true, although can't the same be said for most items included in the sale?
It's a good drive
I think you missed my point, what's stopped me from posting a deal for every good item available at 20% off?
@Lorindor: Why don't you do that then instead of complaining about it here? See how many upvotes you can get? Or, if you can find this particular product cheaper elsewhere, please link it here.
It helped me. I bought one and I am grateful it was posted.
If the item is the cheapest available anywhere (not just eBay), then yep, I would very grateful.
Thanks OP. Bought an 8TB drive.
I think you completely skimmed over my question and just bragged about your purchase instead.
Be right back while I submit a deal for every item in the eBay sale, simply because they're 5-10% cheaper than retail.
@Lorindor:
I think you completely missed the part where the whole point of OzBargain is to post deals where the product is the cheapest currently available. This is the case with this hard drive. If it is the case with other items on eBay, discount or not, they should be posted to OzBargain.If you find this hard drive cheaper, please post it, just like you did with these items (from eBay sales or using eBay vouchers):
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/355613
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/339516
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/301107
etcI look forward to seeing your posts of items in the eBay sale that are the cheapest available anywhere at this time. I might even buy some of those items, just to brag about it of course.
I think you completely missed the part where the whole point of OzBargain is to post deals where the product is the cheapest currently available.
Going by that sound logic, every item that is part of these 20% off eBay sales deserve their own individual post here, as they are all currently the cheapest available.
Would you like me to start posting all of those deals now or should I skip this sale and start fresh with the next?
If you find this hard drive cheaper, please post it, just like you did with these items (from eBay sales or using eBay vouchers):
Please don't compare the deals I submit with this, as I only post when I know they are actually a good price, and not just part of a weekly sale.
I look forward to seeing your posts of items in the eBay sale that are the cheapest available anywhere at this time. I might even buy some of those items, just to brag about it of course.
I look forward to you actually reading my comment properly, and not just automatically replying.
Going by that sound logic, every item that is part of these 20% off eBay sales deserve their own individual post here, as they are all currently the cheapest available.
Wrong, and you know it.
Would you like me to start posting all of those deals now or should I skip this sale and start fresh with the next?
Just the ones that are actually currently the cheapest available.
Please don't compare the deals I submit with this, as I only post when I know they are actually a good price, and not just part of a weekly sale.
Read my lips. This hard drive deal is the cheapest currently available. It doesn't matter that it's part of an eBay deal or if it fell from the hard drive sky gods. This hard drive is a good price (the best, in fact), so by your own admission, it should be posted to OzBargain, just like the last time it was at its lowest price during an eBay sale: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/371570
I look forward to you actually reading my comment properly, and not just automatically replying.
Pot, meet kettle.
Wrong, and you know it.
You wish. And I'd humour you with a list, but I don't really care nor have the time.
Just the ones that are actually currently the cheapest available.
Look at everything that futu sells, guaranteed most will be the cheapest.
Read my lips.
You do realise we're on the internet, right?
Read my original comment again, then a third time.
Actually I'll do you a solid and break it down - if we start allowing every item that's part of an eBay sale to be posted here as a deal, then sooner or later the site will be cluttered with everything available on futu_online's store, that in reality aren't really that much cheaper than retail.
@Lorindor: you’d check staticice and msy and ebay to see if it is the cheapest as that is for many a starting point before posting pc related items ….
You wish. And I'd humour you with a list, but I don't really care nor have the time.
I know you're super busy, so I'll just leave these two links here for you:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/302357839945
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/332008086310To save you the time and effort of clicking, the Futu item (with 20% off) is more expensive than the other seller (with no discount). How does that sit with your assertion that "every item that is part of these 20% off eBay sales deserve their own individual post here, as they are all currently the cheapest available"?
Look at everything that futu sells, guaranteed most will be the cheapest.
Wow - what a bargain! If only there was some place we could post said bargains to alert other people to the bargain…
You do realise we're on the internet, right?
You do realise normal humans can detect idioms, even on the internet, right?
Read my original comment again, then a third time.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Actually I'll do you a solid and break it down - if we start allowing every item that's part of an eBay sale to be posted here as a deal, then sooner or later the site will be cluttered with everything available on futu_online's store, that in reality aren't really that much cheaper than retail.
Thanks for the solid, bro. If they are the cheapest available, they can be posted. Don't like it? Report the posts and see what happens.
For a person who doesn't have time to see if a single item in the eBay sale is actually the cheapest or not before claiming that all items in the eBay sale are the cheapest, you sure seem to have plenty of time to be triggered by a post that 100% abides by the OzBargain rules and intent.
I'll leave you to it. Have a nice evening.
Cheers
I just receive my 3x6tb WD Reds from Futu a minute ago from last weeks 20%
Looks like the 6tb ones have come down $24 from last week.I saw shuckable WD 8TBs for $136 US with a particular deal recently, but hard to get to Aus. Totally heartbreaking :(
Also slower, half the cache and without warranty.
The last thing I want in my NAS is 7200rpm disks, nor do I care, at ALL about cache.
You…don't want faster disks in your NAS? Why?
For ~$250AUD you can get the WD My Passport 8TB from Amazon and then extract the WD Red hard drive from within (an arguably superior hard drive than seagate)
What are pros of purchasing this instead of going with that method (besides some effort extracting)? Curious!For one thing, you get a warranty :)
true! however Amazon warranty is quite good as well, from my experience
Please provide evidence that WD reds are better than Seagate Ironwolves? Full disclosure my current array is Red but my backup is Seagate NAS drives (the generation before they rebranded everything).
seagate has had a bad rap on 3TB barracudas desktop drives but these are different manufacturing process and there's not been any widespread reports of disc failure.
Also, good luck getting amazon to rma a shucked drive.@potplanty: thanks everybody! reading back on my comment it does seem I was flat out stating the WD Red was superior; actually very new to the NAS level hard drive game so was just genuinely curious! 'arguably superior' comment honestly just comes from my quick Google searches and people saying in forums that it's more reliable.
I am much more inclined to trust in the opinion of my Ozbargain community, so I will be purchasing the Seagate :)
Apologies if I caused any anger in anybody@Geoff897: Sorry, my previous comment mentioned 3TB but they were infact 4TB drives. Still, those are previous generation Barracudas as not current Ironwolves. Also not 8TB drives, which fared well (but haven't stood the rigors of Backblaze's use for long). They likely share some common technology but since Ironwolves are not included in Backblaze's data centres it's impossible to extrapolate from it. It's like saying that 2016 VW Polo's are bad, ergo don't buy a 2018 VW Golf. Maybe? Maybe not?
Anyway in the same table the 8TB barracudas have had low failure rates but were only added 12 months prior to that data set. So less clear how that info casts shade on these drives.@potplanty: slow speed is to save power … i don’t have issues with slow spin ….. do,like bigger cache though.
i have reds and iron wolf …. no issues with either …..
Are 'mybook' handled differently to 'My passport' drives? If so then I see your point, if not then MyBook drives can be removed as during RMA process you..wait for it… remove the drive then send it back.
I'm assuming my passport' drives are not user accessible?
Arguably superior
Alright, I'll bite. Present your arguments. Because from where I'm sitting the Seagate with 256MB cache and 7200RPM speeds vs your WD80EFZX with its 128MB cache and 5400RPM speed is
arguablysuperior.arguably! have no personal experience, just the whispers of internet forums of people swearing WD Reds are more reliable etc, and then comparing the 7200RPM of Seagate vs 5400RPM of WD Red and using that as reasoning why the WD Red is more reliable; hence why I'm asking because so far I've only used the WD Red from a shucked My Passport
Lower RPM drives are preferable due to less heat and noise in a JBOD, so that just leaves the cache which I don't think is even relevant when it comes to a NAS environment, but I could be wrong.
There's more to hardware than just raw number specs.
The only number that matters for a NAS drive (aside from price, this is OzB afterall) is failure rate. Barracudas of a specific size (4TB) and generation (~2013-2015?) had a terrible failure rate when used in Backblaze's data centres. People now hating on Seagate. Fine hate on Seagate, but realise your evidence base is as firm as a as a coke drinker hating on pepsi.
I drink water.
Is there a way to check if this is a shingle drive?
A shingle drive?
Don't question Sean Connery.
This one doesn't use SMR. Generally, a HDD for NAS means it is not SMR. 7200rpm drives generally won't use SMR since SMR is cost saving and 7200rpm is normally for performance.
I haven't tested it yet, but I read that SMR HDD's are particularly slow when they have to overwrite data. If you are just going to archive a collection and not make significant changes to it over time, they are fine, but avoid for drives that are going to be frequently updated.
The Seagate Iron drives are really good BTW, much better than previous generation Seagate drives. They are almost as fast as Western Digital Blacks, and don't have any behavioural quirls like an older Seagate 6TB drive I owned. For a desktop computer I would recommend a 10 or 12 'Terrorbite' helium filled drive though, since they use less power, weigh less, and presumably generate less heat as well.
Yep netsurfer is correct, these are not SMR drives. SMR performs quite poorly in RAID configurations which these drives are built for.
Not bad. I paid $297.53 at the last eBay sale (PUMP20 code). I'm going to wait for the 12TBs to drop in price now though.
If only the desktop drives are this price.
you can use these on a desktop …..
Tempting but my NAS is only half full, would be an extravagance.
Think of it as half empty then.
You're right!
Oh wait, the sums come out the same. :(
At least it's now a necessity rather than luxury.
Can recommend - I've got the 10TB version and, admittedly after one RMA, for a drive that broke early on (a few weeks in) no issues at all.
Is this about as cheap as they get?
I’ll need another one but it’s not urgent, so not sure whether I should just get it now or hold out.out of stock
Yep out of stock. I managed to pay $294.80 per drive around 2 months ago using a 10% off sitewide code. I bought 8 of them. Excellent drives so far in my home server, been really happy with them.
back in stock as of now!
Confirmed - just grabbed one.
Thanks OPdo you think I should wait a month or two so the price goes down even further?
Hasn't been a lot of movement on the prices from 8 to 12tb.
You might be waiting for Seagate to release the 14 and 16tb drives before you see much of a price drop.Just buy now, they have not moved in price in the past couple of months and it is unlikely they will in the next couple of months
Can these NAS drives be used to archive media?
Sure
any recommendations on a box to but them in?
something with RAID and remote access functions?Google FreeNAS and HP Microserver. It's the best bang-for-buck NAS. Requires some technical work: installation from USB stick. I've been using it for many years on HP NL36 & NL40 Microserver.
Thanks just decided to order one - will compare to a WD Red 8TB I have
Here is more information on the Seagate IronWolf 8TB for NAS It comes with 5 years warranty and Heath Management
Mate that is the Pro, this comes with 3 years warranty. Are you even associated with Seagate because you are giving out false information. The health management is only available on selected Synology NAS devices
of 4 of these I bought from FUTU 2 died, one was DOA. Futu do not package these drives appropriately, its a wonder any of them work on arrival. Also had to fight to get a new drive, not a reconditioned one. I saved myslef $400 buying these drives over say hitachis, but it's a false economy IMHO
ah crap you posted this too late. Fingers crossed mine is ok
Also I just saw that MSY have it for$318 so real saving is $20
6 movies sessions total across 4 states to choose from. Could be crowded!
Good price, Futu will jack price as soon as they realise