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Panasonic 27L Flatbed Inverter Stainless Steel Microwave Oven (NN-SF574S) AU $199.20 Delivered @ MYER eBay

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Seems a decent price (as far as I can see on here for a brand new non-refurb) for this popular microwave.

Panasonic 27L Stainless Steel Microwave Oven (NN-SF574S)

27 L Solo Microwave Oven
Flatbed Cavity
Precise Power Control
Clear, Linear Design
LED Oven Light
Specifications

Finish: Stainless Steel
Cavity Volume: 27 L
Microwave Power: 1,000W
Inverter
Outside Dimensions (HxWxD): Approx. 326 x 529 x 422 mm
Oven Cavity Dimensions (HxWxD): Approx. 230 x 354 x 338 mm
Weight: 11.7 kg

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    $192 …. 5 seconds speaking to the Oracle, Google Foo https://www.billyguyatts.com.au/panasonic-27l-inverter-micro...

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      Delivery?

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        First… Lol at Billy Guyatts still being around

        Second, just put in my outer Melbourne suburbs post code and deliver was $7.01, so $199.01 delivered.

        But I could see being able to go back to a Myer store being easier than shipping or getting to a BG outlet for warranty issues, so would spend the extra 19c.

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    Flatbed means no turntable.

    No thanks

    • +6 votes

      Why do you say that? Turntables suck.

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        Sure but you need them to get even heating, that is why they have them.

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          Yep +1 to this. Used to have flatbed but reverted to turntable. The flatbeds run a kind of deflector turntable hidden away to reflect the radio waves in different directions. It just doesn't do a very good job and the food is always unevenly cooked.

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          @PinzVidz: Yep - I've got one, and it's… kind of OK most of the time.
          It works better with flat things than tall things. When it dies, I'll be replacing it with a turntable.

          Panasonic are able to make good flat bed microwaves (eg, like the commercial ones at Subway or Hungry Jacks) but these consumer models are fairly ordinary.

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          @senorclean: I got this one too, does yours make a kind of startup noise, like something rubbing for a second or so?

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          I have the in-built Bosch. It works very well but to be fair it's in a significantly different price bracket.

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          @marchi: Yes, sometimes it sounds like there's a grumpy squirrel in there or something.

          I assume it's whatever deflector mechanism they have spinning up. There's obviously something big and chunky under it.

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        So no good for Vinyl then ;)

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        There are very good reasons nearly all microwaves have a turntable:

        Quote from (https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=141...):

        …the plate spins so the food is heated evenly by the microwaves. The wavelength of the radio frequency energy in the microwave is 12.24 cm. The RF energy is bouncing back and forth inside the oven, which is called a cavity. Inside the cavity, the waves appear (if you could see them) to stand still, and are called standing waves. Each standing wave has anti-nodes spaced 1/2 wavelength apart, and at those points, the food is cooked. The bad news is that there are also nodes spaced 1/2 wavelength (6.12 cm) apart where the food does not cook. The spinning plate allows all parts of the food to receive the RF energy. Some ovens have fans spinning in the top of the oven where the RF enters, to break up the standing waves. This method is less effective than the spinning plate, but allows the entire cavity to be used for holding food.

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      Also interested to know. I would imagine flatbed would be easier to go over with a cloth to clean.

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      flatbread is more healthy

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    The microwave is still at an affordable price, but you could also get a microwave from a leading brand like Smeg for roughly $60 more :)

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      smeg .. is like Beats headphones

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      Lol, funny you say "leading brand". Because if you research which are the leading microwave brands, Smeg is never mentioned.

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        Also they look the same as the Microwaves you see at Target for $79.

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    I will never buy a Panasonic microwave ever again.

    Mine failed after 1.5 years of very mild use, opened it up to see what's wrong and they designed the latch mechanism to have 3 (yes 3) mechanical switches driven by BENDING pieces of PLASTIC - now, I'm not an industrial design engineer, but I'd guess that bending/flexing pieces of plastic every time the door opens and closes is not IMO a good design decision.

    I was able to fix it with some (now hold back that laughter) hot glue and a quadcopter blade - still working, but sheeeesh, that thing was DESIGNED to fail fast.

    My previous Sharp microwave lasted 15 years and still works (but is ugly now and was the only reason we purchased the new Panasonic).

    Absolutely appalling design.

    • +3 votes

      I have always had Sharp microwaves too in the family and they all lasted a very long time.

      I bought a fancy Panasonic once and the inverter broke in about 3 years.

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        Overall Panasonic is a top brand, a much better brand, but Sharp's trademark is indeed microwaves and they do them well. I can't think of anything else Sharp is good at. They used to make good PDAs and Boomboxes back in the day but everything else is pretty much junk.

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    Tread carefully here! I bought a similar model (NN-SF550W) a few years ago… worst Microwave ever created! Took twice as long to heat anything up and when it did it was uneven and inconsistent. Sometimes it worked, other times it was a nightmare. All very random. Read & re-read the manual as instructed by Panasonic Customer Support because apparently the flatbed models work a bit differently but that was just an absolute cop-out. After trying everything they suggested I decided it had to be sent off for repair however Panasonic came on really strong with the whole 'if we don't find a problem then we'll charge you' stance even after finding SEVEN pages of similar reviews online (https://www.productreview.com.au/p/panasonic-nn-sf550w.html). I decided to cut my $200 loss by replacing it with a far cheaper (just over $100 from memory), standard carousel Sharp Microwave with the same output power and it has worked flawlessly from the day I bought it and it's still not showing any signs of age! Brilliant piece of kit.

    Dropping that 2-month old Panasonic Flatbed off to e-Waste in its original box was was a very strange feeling but one of the most satisfying moments of my life. Never buying another Panasonic product since has been equally as satisfying :) I hope they've rectified the issues in these newer models but please be very careful and research your purchase protection well.

    EDIT: Ah, looks like iDroid & SamR (above) have had similar issues with Panasonic. Sorry, took me a while to type so didn't see those comments until after I posted mine. Be careful people! Buy a Sharp instead!

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    As others have posted, the flatbed design is terrible!

    Passable if cooking largish items, but trying to cook a plate of party pies, for example, leaves you with half mouth burning hot, and half still cold.

    I don't know if it's just Panasonic who can't make these work for home use, but apparently flatbed units are very popular in the commercial sector.

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      Yep. We were on 'LitenEasy' at the time and cooked each frozen meal separately, one after the other. The first got hot but was very uneven so everything had to be mixed in order for the heat to spread so it really wasn't good enough anyway but the kicker was that the second meal didn't even get hot! Took over 20 minutes of cooking just to melt the ice so it was obvious it had issues with the cool-down cycle or something. Unbelievably poor product.

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    I'm with the guys above. I hate this microwave! Slowest EVER. And even when you take your food out it does this stupid cooling cycle thing. Terrible. Avoid.

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      My new Sharp, which replaced this POS has a cool-down cycle as well. Not as long, and never had an issue with multiple cooking runs.

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    OP here. I had actually decided separately to buy the LG 42L NeoChef MS4296 but as part of research found this price. Thought it would be popular with some or at least a useful data point for the future :)

    Re the LG, I can't see any great prices right now so am going to wait a bit.

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    bought a LG MS2336DB for 139 from Good Guys the other week. let's see how long before it breaks downhaha

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    I have had the same model for about a year. It is very easy to clean. Have never had any issues with the heating. I find it more effective than most of the ones I find at workplaces (can't comment on exact details). Dunno why there are different opinions.

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      I got this one too, does yours make a kind of startup noise, like something rubbing for a second or so?

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    I do have this model which is white. The advantage of it is easily clean up.

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    No convection. no deal

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