eBay Spoofing

I've been waiting for Milwaukee to release these for sale in Australia last month. USA product launch date was March 1St 2018 so how can someone sell something that hadn't been made or released.

5 already sold look at the dates. RRP skin is $253 AUD I know it's fraud but how did they do it?

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Milwaukee-12V-Li-ion-Cordless-Po…

User ID Price Quantity Date of Purchase
ra ( 2 ) AU $105.00 1 30-Jan-18 14:37:33 AEDST
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o ( 17Feedback score is 10 to 49) AU $98.00 1 29-Jan-18 21:44:57 AEDST
zy ( 17Feedback score is 10 to 49) AU $119.00 1 13-Nov-17 13:53:28 AEDST
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l ( 81Feedback score is 50 to 99) AU $119.00 1 06-Nov-17 11:32:12 AEDST
m***e ( 12Feedback score is 10 to 49) AU $98.75 1 28-Sep-17 16:38:52 AEST

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/News/Press-Releases/Cordless/R…

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  • +2

    By editing the listing in their shop for old items they are no longer selling, and updating them with new items.
    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDeta…

  • Seller has probably reused a listing that was for a different product.
    Have a look at the revision history.

  • +7

    I will never understand how people with the technological ability of an emu can accuse people to be frauds, scammers and anything inbetween when you have absolutely zero facts and are completely naive. This seller has 2,415 feedback with no comments about being fraudsters, yet you know its fraud?

    5 already sold look at the dates. RRP skin is $253 AUD I know it's fraud but how did they do it?

    There is no evidence to suggest that this listing, is what it was in 2017. Sellers usually reuse listings that have a 'Sold' history as it ranks those listings higher in the search engine.

    There is a useful tool called 'View Revisions' and it is clear the seller has made changes to the images, title, prices, and description before the release date.

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDeta…

    The current price seems to be aligned with a normal retail incl. Fees, postage and profit, if you know this is a fraud, why isn't the price still $99.00, and hasn't sold hundreds of them?

    You have been completely and utterly naive during this though process and I hope in the future you can refrain from using the word fraud towards people you know absolutely nothing about, and ignore every factual information that is clearly infront of you such as the sellers feedback.

    • +3

      Editing a listing to make it look like you have sold something that you haven't sounds like fraud to me.

      • +1

        Its deceitful, potentially unethical for those who use the SOLD number as an indicator, not illegal though, the reader draws their own conclusion, the seller didn't explicitly say "hurry, selling quick!"

        • +1

          fraud
          frɔːd/Submit
          noun
          wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

          What he's doing is basically dictionary definition fraud..

  • +4

    The seller is based is Spain and yet says the item is located in Australia. Delivery claims to be by Couriers Please, but delivery date is up to 3 weeks away.
    May not be "fraud" but based on the above, and the sellers pretty ordinary EBay FB I would not be too confident on buying anything from the seller.

    • This isn't necessary fraud either. Chinese sellers now have a strategy of keeping heavy items in Australia in a warehouse, but the rest of the stuff is in China. Spain happens to be where this fulfilment office of the seller's many around the globe is located. Fulfilment office is probably just somebody sitting at a computer dispatching orders to the appropriate warehouse.

      I recently ordered a soldering iron at a discounted price and discounted postage of 1 AUD. It arrived within a few days by e-Parcel so it was sent locally and they were losing money on the postage. But it was a clearance item.

      • A lot of the cheap stuff from China these days will actually arrive with an AusPost EPost address label. That is just part of the postage routing and does not signify the item was originally mailed in Australia.

        • AFAIK you cannot mail an e-Parcel from outside Australia to a parcel locker, with a return address of Regents Park 2143, and have it arrive in a couple of days. So your theory fails.

          But suit yourself what you want to believe. I would have bought it anyway even if it had come from overseas. The facts that it was discounted, the postage was cheap and it arrived quickly were bonuses.

        • @greenpossum:

          Incorrect. We receive plenty of direct entry articles from nz to bne with eparcel labels and return addresses in aus. And of course you can have it sent to a parcel locker

        • @Slinky0111: I seriously doubt if my seller gains anything from sending from NZ, it wasn't a NZ product, but in any case there is nothing gained from claiming Aus origin for these as far as I'm concerned.

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