Second Hand Car from Dealership with Major Issues after Two Days of Purchase. What to Do?

Hi all, first time posting, I'd like to get some advice please.

We bought a second hand car from a dealership 3 days ago, at the dealership just before leaving the place, the car developed a rattle, when asked the manager about it, he called his mechanic who stated that it could be a loose heat shield or an exhaust leak, no big issue according to him and ask us to bring it back for repair a few days later, we left the dealership.

The next day we went shopping and the car started to act weirdly, the battery light, the handbrake light and the Abs light turned on and off several times, the automatic gearbox was not going smoothly as it was the day before, and even getting stuck in one gear, the driver's window go stuck going up having to manually pull it up, and the Aircon stopped working. After all this issues we went driving back to the dealership just to be told that the repairs would not be done there and gave us a number of his mechanic for us to ring and book a repair.

Today we went to turn the car on and it was dead, dead battery. We contact the dealership again, went personally there to be told again to book the mechanic. We got to speak with the mechanic who said he'll arrange a tow truck to pick the car up, which didn't happened and when we call back he said he didn't know when the tow truck would come.

The dealership gave us a three year free warranty, and stated that all cars are "mechanically worshopped" but after all this issues just two days after purchased, what can we do, ask for a refund? If the car is going to be this troublesome, can we trust this three year warranty? Is the alternator, I'm guessing is one of the issues, something they should have checked, as a car with a faulty charging system is not roadworthy? Sorry for the long text, I hope we can get some guidance. Thanks in advance

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  • +7

    a car with a faulty charging system is not roadworthy?

    This is not part of a road worthy check. A faulty alternator would not make a car unroadworthy.

    Some of your symptoms may be because of the failing battery. If the car has sat on the lot of some time and not started often, it can kill the battery.

    It's a shit situation to be in, but let the mechanic have a look at it. Don’t bullshit to them and make stuff up just so it looks worse than it is, just give them the exact details. Give them a chance to at least have a go at fixing the car. Your rights under ACL is that they have the right to offer you a repair, replacement or a refund. You, as the consumer, do not get to pick this in most cases (usually until legal intervention and multiple repair attempts.)

    My advice is, at least get the mechanic to look at it. Keep a log of every time it fails and what it happening. Log it. Write it down. If the issues persist after a few tries, then start going down the "I want a refund" route.

    Another note is that the 3 year warranty isnt worth the paper it is printed on. Do NOT rely on it in the future. It will only cover certain parts and certain values or work "up to" a certain amount. BUT! All is not lost, as there is a statutory warranty that dealers/motor traders have to give you, and it is usually something like 3 months or 5000km (unless the car is over a certain age/km.)

    And don’t forget… "Document Everything". Phone calls, times, what was said and by whom. Any faults and what happens. Any work carried out and what was done and what was said to you.

    • Thanks for you reply, I'll keep a record of phone calls and emails, I just hope it all gets fixed

      • Just be assertive as to when, if it comes to it, that it's time for a refund.

        My brother-in-law bought a brand new tata ute, and it started falling apart as he drive it from car yard (not sure whether literally). They would fix it free of charge, but it was always in the workshop until the dealer either stopped servicing tata's, or went broke (this story is a bit fuzzy). My brother-in-law sold it for less than a tenth what he paid, yet had barely driven it.

        IMO He should have insisted on getting is money back when there were still asues after the first repair.

  • +1

    a car with a faulty charging system is not roadworthy?

    Yeaaaah, hard to say without an MS Paint diagram to look at…

    • +24

      Stand back fam… I got this…

      • +1

        I see the problem. You used an exide battery. Always go for the century.

      • Wow that's actually not bad MS Paint drawing with a mouse……

  • +2
    1. What car is it?

    2. Obviously, you had a mechanical check by an independent mechanic before buying the car right??, So it's something they didn't find.

    As for what to do?

    The dealership gave us a three year free warranty, and stated that all cars are "mechanically worshopped" but after all this issues just two days after purchased, what can we do, ask for a refund?

    The first step is to take it to the dealership give them a chance to make things right even though they seem to be messing you around you need to stick with them for a bit.

    Call the manager of the dealer, ask them to organise you a tow. That way they pay for it.

    If your "3-year warranty" is not in writing then have them send you an email with the details of what is included what isn't.

    As others have said, document everything.

    • Is a Honda oddysey, the car didn't get check by a third-party mechanic, that was our mistake I guess, but wouldn't a car from a dealership have a thorough inspection before been put for sale? I guess is a lesson learned for us. We choose a dealership because of a peace of mind thing over a privately sold car.

      We've got all warranty papers in writing and emailing the manager to find us a solution as we can't afford not having a car cause I'm having a hip replacement in two days. Thanks for your reply

      • I believe dealer in NSW need to provide at least 3 months warranty for all car that they sell.

        So they will need to response for it.

        • Nope.

          Taken from Motor Traders Association of NSW

          For a second hand motor vehicle the Motor Dealers and Repairers Act 2013 provides a statutory warranty of 3 months or 5,000km from the date of sale (whichever occurs first). This applies to second hand vehicles that have traveled less than 160,000 km and are less than 10 years old.

      • +1

        There’s nothing wrong with using a mechanic down the road but they need to get the car there. Either that or go to auto barn, buy a battery booster thing, jump start it and drive it there. Probably what I’d do. Those portable starters are cheap and not a terrible thing to have in the garage.

        As for your hip replacement, you won’t be driving for 6 weeks.

    • +3
      1. What car is it?

      https://goo.gl/Lz9vbS

      • Captiva?

  • How olds the car?

  • I have a hunch your alternator is faulty resulting in the power loss. All those lights lighting up is quite likely the alternator.

    • +1

      I think the alternator is the problem, the thing that's really annoying is the poor form of the dealership, going there twice to just get turn away with a hand written note of the mechanic's name and mobile number, from a business that prise himself of being family owned trading for more than 30 years.

  • I hope it's not a flood damaged repairable write off!

  • What the age and mileage on the car? After 10 years of 160,000km, statutory warranty does not apply.

    The dealership gave us a three year free warranty…

    What are they warranting against?

    stated that all cars are "mechanically worshopped"

    Mechanical worshipping is usually a standard inclusion

    • Car is older than 10 years but it has less than 160k, they work with a third-party warranty company

      • 10 years or 160,000km, whichever comes first.

        The only recourse you have is the warranty you mentioned. As statutory warranty is not applicable, your warranty is entirely a special condition and as such no one can tell you what's included in said warranty.

        they work with a third-party warranty company

        Not sure what you're trying to say.

  • They should be using an in-house mechanic, not some outside mob.

    This sounds like it's been bought from a wholesaler, which can kinda be caveat emptor.

    A major dealership would care about reputation and care about the service, a wholesaler not so much.

  • +5

    " but wouldn't a car from a dealership have a thorough inspection before been put for sale?"

    No.

    This is what happens..
    Dirt cheap labourer gives the car a quick wash.
    It is driven through the workshop and past a mechanic at about 80kph. The mechanic saw the car go past.
    It is placed out the front with coloured flags, some signs that say "big sale" and they attach a price tag about 30% over what it is worth.
    They then wait for a fish.
    Fish comes in, falls in love with how shiny the paint is and gets swooned by how friendly and obliging the salesman is. When the salesman mentions the lifetime guarantee that will protect the buyer until the world ends the deal is signed with much excitement. He got a new second hand car with no problems. Not so, quite the opposite.

    Right then the salesman and dealership want your money and then to get your ass and the thing you bought off the lot asap and hope to never hear from you again. You oblige because you want to hit the road in your perfect purchase.
    It is about this time that you think should I have got the car inspected, was I had, is this the car I set out to "buy" or was I "sold"? You start to notice some rattles and other weird behaviour that you would have noticed if you had bothered to take it for a test drive. Reality sets in.

    It sets in even more when you repeatedly get the fob off every time you try to get something fixed. The friendly salesman does everything to avoid you.
    You then start combing the internet forums and looking up consumer protection assistance departments to find it is frustrating and usually pointless.
    You then relent and pay a mechanic to try and fix it as persuing other means is like hitting your head against a brick wall.
    Ahhh… the fun of buying a used car.

    • +1

      You forgot to mention that the buyer needs a new hip.

  • Modern cars… When the alternator goes there's rarely any notice it's about to go and sounds like you got more notice than I did. It's a pain when it goes and if not under warranty can cost a fortune to replace. I had two Nissan Maximas spit their alternators within two weeks of each other with Nissan charging (pun not intended) $1000+ for each for something that costs $250 and only one hour to pull out the dead and put in the new. Just need to know how to do it.

    • Just need to know how to do it.

      Just YouTube it…

      Thank me later…

      As for the parts, Ebay that…

      Thank me later…

      • to add to this. you can always pick up a second hand alternator from a wreckers too.
        plus i like the practice of taking it apart on their car first before i do it in my car

      • Youtube is great. Many years ago (before YouTube) I had an alternator on my Nissan Pathfinder fail… But we kept it going by hitting it with a hammer every time the battery light came on which kept it going for a month. Meanwhile I rang around… Nissan wanted $600 for a new alternator plus fitting, a reco one from a wrecker would be about $400. My brother-in-law who worked for Mitsubishi scoffed saying this wouldn't happen with a Mitsubishi one. So we pulled the alternator out (it was a Mitsubishi one!) Went to the local auto parts store and bought carbon brushes for a commodore ($4) and shaved them down with a Dremel tool to make them fit. Was so easy! Used same technique when my motorbike ones went and they wanted $120 per brush.

    • I bought my wife a holden convertible for Xmas. The alternator wasn't working, and the battery died on her first ride.

      I was the best hubby ever for about 10 minutes, then in the dog box. Thanks holden.

      • Lucky the roof didn't die… (known issue)

        • yeah? That's always been a concern - especially if it jammed half way up/ down.

          Ours has been fine for 14 years now - the alternator was the only issue with this car other than the glue started giving way on the interior lining within a few days/ weeks/ months?? But that alternator issue on Xmas day still makes it feel like a lemon.

  • Hi there is always ""A CONSUMER WARRANTY"" I purchased a car from a NSW car sales,the sales person deliberately lowered the price by $50 to take it below the $3000 price so they did not have to give me no warranty or guarantee on the vehicle,when I took it for a registered transfer there was over $900 repairs required to pass roadworthy he told me it was up to me to get a condition report,I contact dept Fair Trading and was told to ask him about the Consumer Warranty and I had $600 put into my bank account the next day,try it and others reading this keep and remember this

  • +2

    Sounds like a comedy sketch, did you buy it from Matilda's father by any chance?

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