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Pay no Listing / Insertion fees for the Next 500 Items @ eBay Australia

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Pay no Listing / Insertion fees for the Next 500 Items @ eBay Australia
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fluffypancakes on 02/11/2018 - 13:39 sellercentre.ebay.com.au (271 clicks)
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  • The promotion runs from 00:00 (AEDT) on 2 November 2018 to 23:59 (AEDT) on 9 November 2018 (“Promotion Period”).

  • Items must be listed and available for purchase during the Promotion Period in order to qualify for the promotion.

  • Pay no Insertion Fees for the next 500 items you list and make available for purchase in a single category during the Promotion Period. The promotion does not apply to other fees such, as the Final Value Fees, or selling fees, charged on sale of an item, fees for optional features or upgrades or other fees.

Final value fees may still be charged

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  • aja12 on 02/11/2018 - 13:41
    +6

    Thanks for posting OP, but the insertion fees are negligible. It’s the final value fees where eBay has a field day.

    • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 15:17

      Yeah, I've been thinking about the ninja price jacking lately and wondering if the "evil retailers" were the true problem - or whether ebay themselves are more culpable (with final values)

      I mean, when people compare prices and they are the same on ebay as they are on a store's site, the price to fulfill isn't the same. It's worse.

      • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 16:37
        -1

        I don't really understand the point you're trying to make - no one forces the retailers to list and sell on eBay, nor to participate in the the eBay sales. If a retailer is selling on eBay it's because they've done the sums and worked out it's profitable to do so one way or another.

        And what insights do you have into a store's "price to fulfil" on either its own site, or via eBay?

        • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 17:11

          Nah, it's a rubbish thought - I forgot that the retailer was participating of their own free will.

          • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 18:06

            @[Deactivated]: I figured as much - the lack of objective data is a bit of a giveaway.

    • Craze on 02/11/2018 - 16:20
      +1

      Yes I got caught on the final value fees on my first sale a little while back after a long time of not selling. The insertion fees are close to negligible but the final value fee did hurt and almost made the sale not worthwhile.

      • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 16:40
        -2

        So if you've sold on eBay previously, you're aware selling isn't free - there's a fee charged at the end - but you didn't think to check and take this into account in your selling price?

        • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 17:10
          +2

          Quite obviously, he thought the final value fees would be more reasonable than they are.

          • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 17:27
            -2

            @[Deactivated]: Quite obviously, nothing is obvious at all, least of all taking the 20 or 30 seconds required to confirm the fees charged.

            • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 18:00
              -1

              @dm01: Is it really necessary to browbeat people with the most obvious of points that if he'd read the fees, he'd know them?

              Obviously the person expected by the popularity of ebay, that the fees would not be ridiculous.

              Now, they aren't ridiculous - but they are higher than one would expect for something so ubiquitous - at least, that would be the logic to not reading.

              • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 18:20

                @[Deactivated]: Is it really necessary to defend users of a site or service who don't take a moment to check on the basic parameters involved in using said service, then through a third-party forum complain when it doesn't match expectations?

  • FireRunner on 02/11/2018 - 13:46

    Warning to anyone who accepts this:
    The FVF (10.9% on selling price) will still be charged. This just waives the listing fee (which is normally free anyway for 40 listing a month)

    I didn't accept as only one selling offer is used when you list an item and I don't want this to take precedence over a better offer.

    • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 16:41

      Don't forget to account for PayPal's fee, as the vast majority of buyers will pay with PayPal. So you really need to factor in losing around 13.5% in fees.

      • justtoreply on 02/11/2018 - 17:10

        13.5%, plus 30c :)

        The annoying thing is you get charged the latter for mistaken purchases and change of mind. It's not a lot of money to lose but it's SO rude

        • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 17:46

          Don't allow change of mind returns and set a small restocking fee in your T&Cs for "mistaken" purchases.

  • justtoreply on 02/11/2018 - 13:51

    The offer varies. For me it was 10 with no listing or FVF fee

    • FireRunner on 02/11/2018 - 13:53
      +1

      That would a different offer, also targeted.

    • thefinalproblems on 02/11/2018 - 14:21

      Mine was 5 with no listing or FVF fee.

  • Black Hole on 02/11/2018 - 14:20
    +2

    I have stop listing in eBay for many years now. The last one was my mobile phone with tracking. The Auspost unfortunately did not do their job and did not get the buyer to sign for the parcel. He claims to have not received it. Paypal penalised me. I disagreed with their verdict and they have closed my account. Paypal has been using third party to chase the $23 that they claim I have owe them. It was such a pain that I have not listed anything in eBay that involved Paypal.

    I know $23 is not much and I should just paid up. However, I will stick with my principle. I am still getting call from their third party. They are in my blacklist.

    I mainly use gumtree but if this is too much of a hassle, I donate my items to op-shop.

    • ash2000 on 02/11/2018 - 16:11

      The Auspost unfortunately did not do their job and did not get the buyer to sign for the parcel. He claims to have not received it.

      Did the tracking show it was delivered?

      • Black Hole on 02/11/2018 - 17:21

        It was a week before Christmas. I have sent off 3 parcels, all with tracking and option for signature. I track these items online closely. The first item has signature taken. The second did not have the signature taken but upon enquiry with the buyer he was honest and told me that he had received the product. The 3rd person I did the same. I was stupid to contact him to enquire whether he had received the item. He claims that he has not. The tracking status indicates the item is on board for delivery for many days as with the second purchaser.

        I did contact AusPost and all they can said is they have done their best. They claims the item is lost in transit and I have no insurance. I don't know about you guys but I have received parcel from AusPost in the past and the delivery man did not ask for my signature. They have improved on this recently.

        • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 17:50

          If they admitted they'd lost it then you're still entitled to some compensation and a refund on the postage service you paid for.

          • ash2000 on 02/11/2018 - 18:30
            -1

            @dm01:

            If they admitted they'd lost it then you're still entitled to some compensation

            Not from Australia Post. No INSURANCE = you'll get SWEET FA.

            • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 18:54
              +1

              @ash2000:

              Not from Australia Post. No INSURANCE = you'll get SWEET FA.

              Incorrect.

              Have a read of When compensation may be payable.

              • Black Hole on 02/11/2018 - 19:36
                -1

                @dm01: This was few years ago. Their legal department contacted me. They could only compensate for the extra service - signature on receipt - that I have bought. I chuck that in the bin when it arrived as it is worthless to me. A warning to all of you is don't bother buying that extra service. It worth nothing if the delivery man forgot or too busy to ask the recipient to sign.

        • ash2000 on 02/11/2018 - 18:27

          This unfortunate thing is, if the tracking showed it was delivered, even if there was no signature taken, you would have been protected with eBay's seller protection even if the buyer claims he didn't receive it.

          I was stupid to contact him to enquire whether he had received the item

          Yeah not recommended.

          • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 19:00

            @ash2000:

            This unfortunate thing is, if the tracking showed it was delivered, even if there was no signature taken, you would have been protected with eBay's seller protection even if the buyer claims he didn't receive it.

            Depends how the buyer claimed it. Tracking showing it as "Delivered" works fine for eBay, but in a PayPal claim you'll also need to show proof of lodgement along with the exact address posted to. So unless you've got a registered post receipt OR a photo of the addressed parcel + tracking number + lodgement receipt, you're still unlikely to win a dispute.

            • ash2000 on 02/11/2018 - 19:08

              @dm01: Indeed, you'll need a lodgement receipt with the correct postcode.

              That said, I always use the ebay shipping labels which covers all bases. I still request a lodgement receipt to be doubly sure.

            • justtoreply on 02/11/2018 - 19:49

              @dm01: Dunno if it's better or worse, but I refuse to lodge over the counter unless it's too big to put into a postbox. I use my phone to take a video the addresses, putting it in the postbox, demonstrating it went down the chute, and the postbox number. I do it as one continuous video so there's no possibility they could say I tampered with anything.

              In particular though, I use this because most my sales are games where people only want to pay $2.55 for letter post.

              • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 20:41

                @justtoreply: I'm yet to read about someone winning a dispute that relies on a video of a parcel being posted, as evidence, whereas as a lodgement receipt or registered post receipt is officially recognised.

                Not saying it won't work, but I wouldn't rely on it. It's probably more useful as something to upload for a buyer to view as proof you sent it and might prevent them lodging a dispute for a late or non-delivered item.

    • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 16:43
      -3

      I disagreed with their verdict and they have closed my account.

      I reckon there must be a few more details in the middle here that you've left out.

      • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 20:31

        To the neggers, PayPal doesn't just close your account because you "disagree" with their decision - PayPal would much rather have you stay as a customer, and keep skimming 2% or more off all the transactions you run through them.

        If PayPal have closed the account, it means seibmoZ niagraB has said or done something that violates PayPal terms of service, or that indicates the user is a potential liability going forward, and they don't want to take the risk.

        • Black Hole on 03/11/2018 - 07:20

          PayPal refunded the buyer $23. I disagree with their decision and refuse to repaid PayPal out of principle.

          • dm01 on 03/11/2018 - 08:36

            @Black Hole: Then you've indeed violated their T&Cs, which is why your account was closed.

            So according to your post here:

            They could only compensate for the extra service - signature on receipt - that I have bought. I chuck that in the bin when it arrived as it is worthless to me.

            a $2 or $3 Australia Post refund is "worthless" to you and worthy only of being chucked in the bin, yet you were will to go to war with PayPal, sacrifice your account, and get referred to a collection agency, over a $23 refund PayPay made to your buyer after you tipped off your buyer that you didn't know if they'd received it? Classic.

            • Black Hole on 03/11/2018 - 11:54

              @dm01: Yes, I've avoid using Paypal whenever it is possible. It is a loss/loss situation because of their inflexibility. Paypal no doubt felt it is not worth chasing but handed to the 3rd party but they have no legal right to do so because I have no business or agreement with them.

              • dm01 on 03/11/2018 - 14:02

                @Black Hole: I feel we're living in different realities.

  • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 17:22
    +2

    eBay Selling Tips

    1. For casual selling, eBay charge a final-value fee of 10.9% and PayPal will take 2.6% + 30 cents from the payment. So that's 13.5% + 30c. Work out what you want to make for your item, multiply it by 1.135 (and add 30 cents if you care enough), and that's the minimum you want to sell for.

    2. Your item needs to get to your buyer - you'll probably want to post it, and that costs money. Work out how much it'll weight once packed up safely, and also if it'll fit into one of Australia Post's parcel post satchels (500g/1kg/3kg/5kg sizes). These will often work out cheaper to use than having Aus Post calculate postage based on size and weight, often significantly so. If your item will fit into a satchel, great - take the cost of the satchel, multiply it by 1.135, and add it to the minimum sell price you calculated above. If your item is fragile or valuable, plan to insure it at a cost of $2 per $100 of value - add this to the cost of the satchel before multiplying by 1.135

    3. List your item with free shipping, because you've accounted for it in your sell price. Free shipping makes it simpler for a buyer to understand what they'll pay, and will place your listing more favourably in search results. Don't be afraid to mention this awesome free shipping you're offering in your title and/or description. If you're going to insure the item, mention that too - buyers love security! Tell them shipping is free, it's insured, and will have a tracking number.

    4. List it as "buy-it-now" only - auctions are a waste of time unless you know exactly what you are doing and understand what day and time you need your item to be finishing at to get maximum bids and exposure. Buyers are fickle and want stuff as soon as possible - making them wait for an auction to end (and them to pay more than anyone else bidding on it) is stupid - you want their money, they want your item - why delay proceedings?

    5. Click the option that requires immediate payment - serious buyers will pay immediately - none of this chasing up buyers for payment after they commit to the purchase - that's a waste of your time.

    6. Take a few moments to provide at least a few sentences describing the condition of your item, any damage, signs of wear etc. "Used in good condition" is useless. Also take some photos of it from different angles under adequate lighting to show it clearly. If your item is cracked/torn/has some other fault, mention it and show a pic - don't hope your buyer doesn't notice, cause they will and then you're up shit creek.

    7. When you send your item, take a photo of it all nicely packed up with the buyer's address clearly shown. Post it over the counter at Aus Post, and get a lodgement receipt - don't just pop it into the post box outside. That receipt from inside is protection for you.

    8. Send a friendly message to your buyer thanking them for their purchase, and letting them know you've posted their item, and tracking number is #XXXXXXXX. Also add this tracking number into the appropriate field in the listing, so eBay can send your buyer helpful updates.

    If you do all this, you're be ahead of most casual eBay sellers you're competing against, should find it easy to sell at the upper-end of a product's selling price range, and should be well protected against most issues that might arise.

    If taking these sorts of steps seems too hard or time consuming, that's great - just ignore everything I've written and please list anyway. Crappy sellers make us good sellers look even better by comparison, so keep it up!

    • justtoreply on 02/11/2018 - 19:56

      To add:
      $1.10 weekend promo or free FVF is common. Failing that, 75% off. Consider waiting for a promo. In 11 months I've had two weeks that weren't covered by free FVF or $1.10.

      Don't seem digital items. Physically post them, signed for or registered post. Or 95% of digital sales will be give-aways as youre not covered by seller protection for digital items and the bstrds lodge a PayPal claim and automatically win. Or if they did it through their credit card company saying they didn't buy it in the first place, PayPal also slugs you an extra $15 for the pleasure of being fkd

  • bg on 02/11/2018 - 18:07
    +1

    Bugger! Received the email with subject “What eBay Mystery Deal did you Land?” foolishly hit reveal code and got the useless list 500 items for free. Made sure I did not select accept offer, just gone back into ebay and see that it automatically accepted by clicking “reveal code” and I was hoping for a $1 mega weekend!

    • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 18:24
      +1

      You just got me wondering if there is a way to opt out again, so I jumped onto eBay CS chat and…no, can't be done apparently. Once you're in, you're in, unfortunately.

    • blah-blah on 02/11/2018 - 20:25

      I made the same mistake. You'd think there would be a warning rather than forced accept. I was annoyed, because no insertion and final fees starts at midnight from the other post (targeted) and I am not sure which promo the listings will assign to. However, if it assigns the listing to this 500 items thing, then I will list 500 listings and end them straight away to wipe out the promo (only useful if you have enough listings already setup to end in bulk and relist until exceed 500, otherwise will be time consuming). Will wait for midnight to see if I need to go to the trouble :)

      • dm01 on 02/11/2018 - 20:49
        +1

        Yeah this 500 thing is a bit of a BS promo. I have vague recollections of past concurrent promos where it defaulted to listing under the "better" deal (i.e. the one that cost the seller the least) so hopefully that's still the case and the no-FVF promo take precedence here, but the way eBay has been lately it wouldn't surprise me if this 500 deal wipes out the FVF one, to the detriment of all those who activated both and can't quickly and easily churn out 500 listings to kill the promo.

        Fingers crossed that's not the case.

        Please report back once you've checked and figured it out!

        • blah-blah on 03/11/2018 - 00:07
          +1

          Cool, you were right. Listed an item and it has been assigned to targeted promo "$0 Insertion & Final Value Fees" without need to list 500 to get rid of "List 500 Items for Free!" promo :)

          • dm01 on 03/11/2018 - 02:37
            +1

            @blah-blah: Good to know - thank you for confirming :)

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