Police State Australia: Metadata Database Open to Anyone with A Court Order

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  HighAndDry on 15/11/2018 - 11:15

  +2

  No affiliation but figured these might be relevant:

  https://nordvpn.com/servers/australia/

  https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/

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    Gandalf the Thrifty on 15/11/2018 - 16:41

    VPN providers can also be required to turn on logging by court orders.

    Or they could be logging anyway… who checks that they aren't?

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      HighAndDry on 15/11/2018 - 16:55

      +1

      They could be, but since neither of these are based in Australia (or the US?), they're fairly immune to Australian court orders, and there is no benefit to them in logging any activity if they are not required to (they certainly can't sell it, so there is no upside to them at all).

      At the end of the day, is this an 100% guarantee? No, absolutely not. Is this pretty much the most you can do, without living completely without access to internet? Pretty much.

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        Strahany on 15/11/2018 - 19:02

        +1

        I switched to PIA for this reason; was using TunnelBear but since they were bought out by MacAfee (a US company) then there was no guarantee of privacy.

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  vinni9284 on 15/11/2018 - 11:44

  However later on it amended the act to allow any entity with a court order to access the database.

  I wonder what terms & conditions are required to get that court order to access …. if at all can be acquired by you or me!

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  pegaxs on 15/11/2018 - 11:48

  +1

  If I had have guessed at councils accessing this database, Fairfield and Bankstown would have been two guesses at the top of my list.

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    Scrooge McDuck on 15/11/2018 - 12:14

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    Hectic!

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  try2bhelpful on 15/11/2018 - 12:05

  +4

  Compulsory voting is the best thing we have going for us. It stops the extremists having too great an influence because Australians, generally, tend to vote either side of centrist. There are a couple of "OMG what" politicians out there but they tend to be restricted to outliner electorates and are, often, restricted to the senate. Given some of the Governments that are elected in non compulsory voting countries - I will stick with our current system thanks. If people don't want to vote they can always draw the traditional "cock and balls" on the ballot. (Thank Deity, we don't have a write in candidate system or "cock and balls" might get in one day.)

  Dude, if you want to be taken seriously I would roll back the abusive hyperbole. You have a valid point to make here but it is caged in such aggressive language most people are going to dismiss it out of hand as another 'rant". Lay out, logically, what "reasons" these guys put forward when this was legislated and detail why it would be considered a bad idea. I'm sure that list of who has access could be linked to save space in your post .

  Personally I'm uneasy about the use of Metadata and I'm not on the Governments "hit list" of who is likely to be targetted. There are issues of what the data will be used for, how likely someone is to be swept into the net when a family member or acquaintance goes "rogue, who has access, the cost, and the, ever present, risk of the data being hacked.

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  [Deactivated] on 15/11/2018 - 12:09

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  OP reminds me of this guy:

  https://youtu.be/3rRzjbtoBSU

  (Incase that doesn't entice you to click, it is about a flat earther issuing a $100k challenge. Another user, Wolfie, posted a rebutal that unequivocally completed his challenge. Of course, flatearthers don't see it as completed.)

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    Scrooge McDuck on 15/11/2018 - 12:15

    Drop the ball!

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    Nugs on 15/11/2018 - 12:22

    wow, just wow
    .

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  Wystri Warrick on 15/11/2018 - 16:51

  Can we use this to get our politicians metadata?

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  whooah1979 on 15/11/2018 - 19:23

  the amendment to the tia act was covered by mainstream media before, during and after the vote. everyone that needed to know about it did.

  it's been 4 years and we're still happy calling, texting and surfing without any major inconveniences.

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  [Deactivated] on 15/11/2018 - 23:01

  It will be interesting in the not too distant future when cops pumping all this metadata into AI that decides what people are worthy of police attention.

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  Speckled Jim on 21/11/2018 - 14:01

  It's a high-stakes Jenga game.
  The pretexts to justify new security laws of the past 20 years were BS with varying degrees of State complicity. They will ultimately be repealed.

  Despite himself admitting last week that the lone-wolf bit of street theatre couldn't be predicted, in the next sentence Dutton expressed the urgent need for encryption-breaking legislation.
  Then we (very conveniently) have some arrests…very noisy and splashed all over the news.

  What's delicious is that most of these arrests are meaningless and fruitless. Courts usually throw the cases out for lack of evidence.
  You can bet that will be presented in a very subdued manner.

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  non-core promise on 27/11/2018 - 14:41

  Would switching to Cloudflare's DNS make any difference against this?