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  Doey21 on 04/04/2011 - 17:36

  hey baybeans, I'm the only coffee drinker at home…Would you notice a difference from say victtoria coffee if it was drunk over a long period of time (as 2kgs for 1 person would be)

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    stumo on 04/04/2011 - 17:38

    I was a vittoria bean drinker. Not anymore. BayBeans come in resealable ziplock bag, so just make sure you evacuate all the air, before selaing. Or even better, once the big bag is opened, put it all into smaller sealed bags. That way you aren't repeatedly exposing it to air.

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      Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 17:42

      Stumo has nailed it.
      http://www.baybeans.com.au/how-to.html#freshness

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        barefoot on 05/04/2011 - 06:42

        And yet, just yesterday, you were ranting about the staleness of beans bought at a supermarket. They're packed in a sealed airtight bag.
        If I buy beans in a sealed bag, re-pack in smaller sealed bags or tins, grind them fresh through a quality burr grinder… is that not almost the same whether I start with old supermarket beans or I spend months savouring my way through 2kg of yours?
        Neither are going to be "freshly roasted" by the time I get to them.
        That's really the only thing that's stopped me from trying your beans. Postage on small quantities makes them very expensive, and purchasing in bulk brings the postage proportion down but defeats the purpose of buying fresh.
        Not negging, because I appreciate the bargain offers you make, but curious about your seemingly inconsistent stance on freshness.

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        camelgrass on 05/04/2011 - 07:06

        Yeah, I don't see the point of buying so many beans unless you go through them really fast. The normal rule of thumb if you want maximum freshness/flavour from your beans is to buy only enough to last you 2 weeks.

        James hasn't stated how freshly roasted his beans are. For instance, Merlo (merlo.com.au) usually dispatch their beans to the customer well within 24 hrs of roasting. If you buy in one of their torrefaziones or other outlets you are pretty much guaranteed the beans have been roasted only a few hours before.

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 05/04/2011 - 07:11

        @camelgrass. to answer your question directly from the website, second paragraph;
        You can expect to receive a personal confirmation of your order within two hours. You deal directly with James, so you know your custom is valued. Your beans are then hand-roasted and packaged within 24 hours - all Bay Beans orders are roasted fresh to ensure maximum freshness and quality.

        @barefoot. since supermarket coffee is much older than 24hrs when you buy it, your starting with stale beans. no amount of handling on your part can improve that situation.

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        camelgrass on 05/04/2011 - 07:32

        Thanks James.

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        cmdwedge on 05/04/2011 - 12:08

        Must say that I picked up 2kg of whole roasted beans from James in a previous deal, and was very happy with the result. Far superior to the stale shite that I had in the cupboard before then.

        Still working through another batch so I'll give this deal a miss, but Bay Beans is certainly my drug-dealer of choice from now on.

        Ignore the dicks on OzB, James. They're just baiting.

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 05/04/2011 - 16:51

        @cmdwedge - thanks. took me longer than the average bear to realise I was being strung along and baited.

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      salem on 04/04/2011 - 17:43

      another tip: get a burr grinder, and buy whole beans. taking 3 months to drink 2kgs if you're grinding from beans fresh each day is still going to taste 10x better than vittoria, even by the end.

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  stumo on 04/04/2011 - 17:36

  +1

  4KG headed my way :)

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    Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 17:43

    +1

    now thats one happy coffee drinker right there!

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  salem on 04/04/2011 - 17:46

  postage is $9.90 for me after initial click. About to follow through with purchase. Only saving me $12.10 over my normal place for 2kg, thanks to their being local and free delivery. But still, that's a saving, and the Panama blend sounds good to me.

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  bargainy on 04/04/2011 - 17:48

  +2

  Description of the beans is direct plagiarism of Sweet Marias web site http://www.sweetmarias.com/coffee.central.panama.php

  Given this is now selling for ~$20 a kilo roasted I assume it is one of the lesser varieties such as Panama Boquete which sells as green beans for around $12.50 a kilo, so it was never worth $48 a kilo roasted.

  I call shenanigans!

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    Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 18:02

    -3

    thats not playing nice. You neg the deal because of your (incorrect) assumption. oh well.

    The description is uniquely mine. You are refering to The description of 'Panama the region', which certainly is referencing Sweet Marias dictionary - a trusted source (http://www.sweetmarias.com/dictionary.php?category=origin), but how is there anything wrong with that? I even pay credit on the website to the source.

    like I said earlier, Oh well. Maybe your in a negative mood?

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      bargainy on 04/04/2011 - 18:11

      +8

      Good thing I figured that if you were dishonest about the beans you'd be dishonest about the attribution. Here's the same page 10 minutes ago before you quickly added the credit after reading my response http://tinypic.com/r/333y9ds/7

      You don't reference Sweet Maria's, you lifted the whole first paragraph:

      Panama coffee was historically under-rated and overlooked. That perception has been corrected in recent years with the outstanding Best of Panama competition held each year, attracting global competition for the best lots, and spectacular prices. The Gesha cultivar produced in some of the small coffee estates has also garnered heaps of attention for it's unique floral cup character.

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 18:17

        -5

        mate, you are in a negative mood. The text block you are referring to is talking about Panama the region - nothing to do with the bean description, which I referenced from an online dictionary (I credit that on my website with a link now, which happens to be different to your link).

        Do you have anything else to say? I dont.

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        bargainy on 04/04/2011 - 18:20

        +5

        I should note that $20 a kilo for roasted beans is a good deal (depending on what bean this really is) but you are preying on the ignorant by making them think this is a much better deal than it really is; for that you get a neg.

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        quickling on 04/04/2011 - 18:20

        +4

        @baybeans perhaps the issue is that you posthumously appended your reference after garglebutt pointed out that you lifted the description of the panama region from a different source.

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 18:28

        @Quickling - fair enough, I pay that with the caveat -> the addition of the source link (after @garlebut's comment) on the website it to clarify that it is not as @garglebut suggests.

        the text about Panama the region is from the origin dictionary (which talks about regions)
        http://www.sweetmarias.com/dictionary.php?category=origin)

        not the link provided by @garglebut (which talks about a bean 'Panama Las Flores de Boquete')
        http://www.sweetmarias.com/coffee.central.panama.php

        bailing out of this one now. I think its clearer.

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      scampy on 04/04/2011 - 18:19

      +2

      Damn, accidentally + voted this comment.

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  bargaino on 04/04/2011 - 18:27

  +3

  This offer says more about the sellers markup than anything else.

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    Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 18:30

    -3

    you are a tough crowd OzBargain ;-)
    Note to self - Monday = stress day.

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      bargainy on 04/04/2011 - 18:40

      +10

      I buy and roast my own beans after a number of years of being suckered by hyperbole from boutique roasters.

      In this case you quote Sweet Maria's description of some of the truly excellent Panamanian coffees in what I consider a misleading manner because it leads the uninformed purchaser to think the $47.90/kg Panama beans you are selling are related to exceptional beans such as Panama Esmeralda, which they clearly aren't.

      As I said, $20 for roasted beans is a good price. Offer an honest deal without being misleading and you should see enthusiastic support for your deals.

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        bargainy on 04/04/2011 - 19:25

        +5

        I kind of figured this would become long winded. :)

        "Premium Reserve" are weasel words and mean nothing. Post a pic of the bag the beans came in or detail the estate they were sourced from so discerning coffee drinkers can see independent comments on the quality and value of the beans rather than a vague description. Both Toby's and Campos provide a lot of information about their beans.

        $35 a kilo truly limited release/select beans: http://beanbay.coffeesnobs.com.au/ViewCategory.aspx/RoastedC… (you need to create an account to see the prices)

        You're doing much better than all of them on price but not openness and honesty.

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        Telios on 04/04/2011 - 22:25

        Good to see some knowledge on offer garglebutt and a welcome break from sales spin.

        The coffee spin is no different from the vast majority of alcohol/organic foods type spin.

        Try things for yourselves and don't run around accepting words like "Premium", "Organic" and buying things because someone told you a different colour is better (yes you Johnny Walker you blended whiskey skank) or because apparently things grown organically always taste superior (YouTube Penn and Teller Organic food for a laugh).

        Edit: I should note that I am not directly commenting on BayBeans, more in general reference to marketing of "Premium" goods.

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        Natt on 04/04/2011 - 22:32

        +1

        and thats the kicker "Offer an honest deal without being misleading and you should see enthusiastic support for your deals"

        and I would be one of the first inline with support

        sadface :(

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      bargaino on 04/04/2011 - 19:03

      +2

      same here. Not tough on the offer, just the hyperbole, like "save 59%".
      Good luck if you can get it, but do not pretend $47/kg is a fair price for mail-order.

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 19:08

        maybe we have forgotten what great coffee costs?

        Campos $46/kg
        https://www.camposcoffee.com/store/product.php?productid=161…

        Tobys $46.50
        http://www.tobysestate.com.au/index.php/woolloomooloo-blend-…

        Thats for regular coffee blends, not premium reserve.

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        camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 21:52

        +1

        Great coffee doesn't have to cost that much. Merlo, $31.50/kg. Plus it's guaranteed roasted fresh 24 hrs or less. Can you guarantee that?

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 05/04/2011 - 07:13

        @camelgrass - merlo coffee, again? the coffee on offer here is $19.50 vs your comparison of $31.

        is Bay Beans coffee fresh? yes. You can expect to receive a personal confirmation of your order within two hours. You deal directly with James, so you know your custom is valued. Your beans are then hand-roasted and packaged within 24 hours - all Bay Beans orders are roasted fresh to ensure maximum freshness and quality.

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        camelgrass on 05/04/2011 - 11:38

        I'm quite aware of that. But they sell for that price every day of the year and without your kind of advertising spin—eg Value $95.80 You Save 59%. Your deal is only for another 2 days or so. After that your price is greater than 50% more expensive.

        Once again, what is so special about your Panamanian beans that you can "claim" such a normal value? I suspect it's so you can offer such a discount for marketing purposes.

        the coffee on offer here is $19.50 vs your comparison of $31.

        The offer here is $39 for 2 kgs. I cannot buy 1 kg from you for $19.50.

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  mshanann on 04/04/2011 - 19:45

  +2

  We pay between $8 and $10 for 250grams of fresh roasted beans every few weeks from my local (Veneziano Caffe) in Brisbane. The wife and I drink one coffee each per day and this lasts us about 2 weeks. Even by the end of the two weeks, I think we can tell the difference in the flavour of the coffee. Nothing beats drinking coffee from beans roasted within a day or so.

  Check this article out…
  http://www.coffee-makers-cafe.com/coffee-bean-storage-keep-f…

  Anyway, in my opinion, unless you plan to get through your 2kg of beans in 2 to 3 weeks max, your better off paying a few dollars extra and getting it fresh.

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    bargainy on 04/04/2011 - 20:08

    +2

    Yep I roast weekly for that reason.

    I used to be very snobby about coffee but these days I think of it more as a journey and people are on different roads and choose to go at different speeds. Drinking real coffee rather than instant is the first and most important step.

    The next one is not buying incredibly stale Vittoria style beans. If the bag doesn't have a one way valve then it is already stale because fresh coffee releases gasses steadily over the first few days (that's why freshly roasted coffee smells better the day after its roasted). Ground coffee degrades in flavour within hours as it oxidises through exposure to air so imagine how stale those vacuum packed bricks must be!

    Third would be to buy in small batches and use a burr grinder (rather than the chopper/food processor type) so you can get a good grind on demand. Starts to be some real expense here so not for everyone although you can get excellent results with a french press (coffee plunger) without having to resort to a full blown espresso machine.

    The only caveat is that once you start drinking good quality fresh coffee you really can't go back! ;)

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      Doey21 on 04/04/2011 - 21:17

      So garglebutt would you say that buying 2kgs of baybean coffees would be significantly better tasting then 2kg of vittoria beans which is half the price (with the one way valve). I have a burr grinder but i dont want to pay 50bucks for coffee that is going to taste the same after a month or so.

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        bargainy on 05/04/2011 - 07:45

        Absolutely no doubt that this coffee will be head and shoulders above Vittoria. The only comment I'll make is that it really makes a difference yo buy smaller quantities more frequently if you can, but anything is better than Vittoria. :)

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  Natt on 04/04/2011 - 20:10

  +1

  well I'm the type of person to neg a seller who claims they pay credit to a description after the event

  and lies about it

  its not the description - after all you are in the business of coffee not marketing

  its that you concealed it

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    stumo on 04/04/2011 - 20:21

    +4

    I don't really get what all the fuss is about…

    Firstly, plagiarism isn't a neggable offence.
    Secondly, updating your own website when someone has a go at you isn't neggable either.

    As for the supposed dishonesty did you actually read what James wrote in his initial defence?

    (I credit that on my website with a link now…

    (emphasis on the "now")

    How on earth is that concealment/lies?

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      Natt on 04/04/2011 - 20:29

      +2

      I see dishonesty because the OP tells a negger to back off as he acknowledged the source of his website content

      however this acknowledgement was done after the post

      what he should have said was, you are right mate have taken up your suggestion - cheers

      pretty straightforward imho

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 20:34

        +1

        http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

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      sund00bie on 04/04/2011 - 21:04

      +1

      Though he did state "I even pay credit on the website to the source." before the "now" comment. Quite deceptive :0

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    Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 20:25

    I really don't get it. I am sorry.
    I know there is a lot of text in this thread, but the point is all explained above. I didn't use any reference for the bean. I DID use a dictionary for the description of the region of Panama. The link was provided (after the original comment) to clarify exactly that. So it's very important to note that the text was used as art of a description for another coffee bean, but was not the source of my info ( I used the region dictionary, not the coffee bean)

    So there are no lies. I clarified the point and the very important difference between general info on a region and bean specific characteristics as was suggested incorrectly.

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      lazed on 04/04/2011 - 20:37

      +1

      Some of your aggressive & emotional comments in previous listings and not following the site rules maybe playing a part in peoples low tolerance level…that's all I can think of to explain their unreasonableness.

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 20:43

        I am all for robust discussion, but I am never aggressive. Have been a supporter of OzB for a while.

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  birnie on 04/04/2011 - 20:38

  +4

  Considering Vittoria/Harris or whatever from supermarkets is over $25/kg, this works out the same for great tasting fresh coffee.
  My last BBeans stock has just come to an end so this is perfect timing.

  Load me up James!

  (PS, what a load of whinging over nothing. James is an honest operator who has done his best to answer your quibbles and the whing still continues….Boooo!!)

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    Doey21 on 04/04/2011 - 21:18

    not comparing the quality, but usually woolies or harris have buy one get one free sales

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  Natt on 04/04/2011 - 20:44

  +1

  okay baybeans

  I will spell it out

  1. you posted your deal

  2. an ozbargainer noted your content on the page incorporated information from another site

  3. you tell the ozbargainer that you acknowledge the source, so its okay

  4. ozbargainer points out that you amended the page following their post

  quoting of wikipedia is just pedestrian.. how about you stop being defensive and just suck it up

  I am sure your coffee is fine, your passion cannot be disputed

  your "ethics" well, at the end of the day this is small stuff

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    stumo on 04/04/2011 - 20:48

    +3

    1. you tell the ozbargainer that you NOW acknowledge the source, so its okay

    Try reading before spelling.

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      Natt on 04/04/2011 - 20:51

      +1

      " but how is there anything wrong with that? I even pay credit on the website to the source"

      are you missing this post?

      this preceeds what you are quoting

      I bow out - I am not getting into she said, he said.. don't have the energy

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        stumo on 04/04/2011 - 21:04

        +1

        Ahhh that comment may have been negged out from my view, so I apologise.

        The whole thing being kicked off about plagiarism etc is giving me University flashbacks, and I don't like it.

        EDIT: I see the comment now, it seems to be making a bit of a comeback after taking a dive initially, I've +ve voted it now to help revive it lol.

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    camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 21:09

    +4

    Yeah, what ethics? This guy hijacks other coffee deal threads (be it a cafe that just reopened after recovering from the Brisbane floods) with his spam—not cool!
    http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/40241#comment-398473

    There seems to be a pattern with the negging.

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      Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 21:15

      -2

      That's a cafe, that was flood affected, that I +ve voted and supported. A coffee supplier supporting a fellow coffee merchant. I see your point.

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        lazed on 04/04/2011 - 21:17

        +1

        http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/42192#comment-427894

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        camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 21:17

        +3

        I hope you can learn some netiquette from now on then, we will see.

        You got negged pretty bad for that as well. Seems to be a pattern developing.

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        camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 21:19

        +1

        http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/42192#comment-427894

        LOL, James, stop highjacking coffee threads for your own benefit. Netiquette, again, where?

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 21:26

        @Camelgrass there isn't one negative comment on that thread. You have to admit I am pretty active on OzB so any search will turn up a lot of activity. it's been fun.

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        camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 21:33

        +1

        Click on "votes", you will see there was 3 negs evened out by 3 postives on your first comment. So, yes, there were multiple negs. And I just added another!

        The other comment I linked to you were negged 12 times for your spam. Jeez, take some responsibility for once.

        It's fair enough if you make a mistake, everyone does now and then, but you need to at least acknowledge that you made a mistake. Plagiarism and spam is not cool.

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 21:36

        @camel.

        Ok.

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      Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 05/04/2011 - 07:15

      @camelgrass - you have been very busy commenting on this thread - sorry for my late replies to your comments. So, ethics, okay - jump on over to baybeans.com.au and you will see my photo on page one, with my contact details all over the place, with regular updates on the website and I am a regular contributor of OzB. You can judge me as you see me and by what I say. Who are you?

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        camelgrass on 05/04/2011 - 10:59

        So, ethics, okay - jump on over to baybeans.com.au and you will see my photo on page one, with my contact details all over the place, with regular updates on the website and I am a regular contributor of OzB.

        What's that got to do with ethics?

        You can judge me as you see me and by what I say.

        That's exactly what I'm doing.

        Who are you?

        What's that got to do with anything? If it makes you happy, PM me and I will give you my name, email address and phone number. Need a friend? ;)

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  neil on 04/04/2011 - 20:52

  +6

  Seems like a…
  {lowers sunglasses)
  storm in a coffee cup.

  YEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!

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    Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 20:54

    +2

    Let me buy that guy a…. Coffee

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      Natt on 04/04/2011 - 20:57

      +2

      hmm is that an offer of a freebie :P ??

      been a while since ozbargain had a good one - ipod screen covers don't cut the mustard

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  Natt on 04/04/2011 - 21:15

  +1

  stumo

  thanks for the comments.. I thought I was going nuts!

  appreciate you caring enough to check up :)

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  [Deactivated] on 04/04/2011 - 21:37

  +3

  Sounds like everyone needs to get the sand out of their manginas and relax with a nice cup of coffee. It's getting so a bloke can't advertise his wares without getting chewed out for every move he makes!

  Ahem….I reckon the mods could police the waffle comments a bit better too…. I didn't sign up to hear clowns waffle on about plagiarism and who-hijacked-whos-thread (how posting your site address in a comment is a hijack I'll never know)!

  It's either cheap coffee or it's not, peeps!

  Keep the comments to the subject - the price of BayBeans vs others coffee!

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    camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 21:40

    +1

    Well, it's amongst the "waffle" where we find the truth! People here on OzB are particularly discerning and like to know that who they are buying from have at at least some ethical business practices.

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  Natt on 04/04/2011 - 21:47

  +1

  ok lets talk bargain then

  not good at using google cache, but on the 29 March this coffee was not listed on the baybeans website

  no sign of it searching google history

  hardly 59% off regular price if its just been added

  that good enough?

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    stumo on 04/04/2011 - 21:53

    Just to be pedantic, it says "Value $95.80". I take that to mean other "premium" offerings from comparable sellers are selling for around $95. But it seems they are selling their standard range for around $95.

    So maybe $95 value is understating it? I'd never know since there is no way in hell I'm paying $45/kg for beans.

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      Natt on 04/04/2011 - 21:59

      +1

      no. :(

      the seller is saying their normal price is $47.90 a kilo, hence the super special deal with this "bargain"

      issue is that this product is very new on their website

      I think its fair to ask if is valid to claim that an item is heavily discounted, when its difficult to establish its actually been offered before

      lol.. the request was to talk "bargain" so I am

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    Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 22:00

    +1

    C'mon. Your being childish now. do a proper search, you will see it goes back years.
    May 2010 http://www.baybeans.com.au/1/archives/05-2010/1.html

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      Natt on 04/04/2011 - 22:07

      +1

      http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JkjBbK9…

      okay james .. so when did you add this product?

      answer that, and I will happily apoligise

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 22:10

        Or you could read my reply directly before yours which refers to premium reserve. What's you point? I am happy there is lots of discussion here but your not making any point?

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  andy19363 on 04/04/2011 - 22:03

  +2

  It's threads like this that make me despair about this site…..
  I'm sure it won't be long before the mob attacks for using improper grammar, or posting on a Wednesday……..

  ok lets talk bargain then

  http://www.baybeans.com.au/premium-reserve-coffee-beans.html

  without ozbargain link…… $47.90 a kilo

  https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_b…

  ozbargain link…. $20 a kilo

  even our resident coffee expert above, (whilst negging the deal), notes

  As I said, $20 for roasted beans is a good price.

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    Ashlea on 05/04/2011 - 02:35

    -3

    Well, not to be pedantic, but there is a lot of misuse of your/you're going on here…

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  camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 22:08

  +1

  How the hell does this have a value of $95.80 in the first place?

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    Natt on 04/04/2011 - 22:09

    +1

    because the OP says it does!

    no way my hubbies coffee, roasted freash at the shop and ground to his request costs that

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      camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 22:11

      +1

      Yeah, 59% off sounds great doesn't it. That's nearly 60% discount! Wow!

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      stumo on 04/04/2011 - 22:15

      +1

      Well I for one can attest that the sellers usual range of beans is around $40/kg, with a couple of lesser blends usually selling for around $24/kg.

      I know this because I've checked the prices several times over the past year.

      So offering "premium" beans for $45/kg normal price is not very much of a stretch over the non-premium beans.

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        Natt on 04/04/2011 - 22:19

        +1

        and how do you know this is not a "lesser blend"?

        because the seller tells you so

        argh I give up!

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        camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 22:20

        +1

        Merlo has Nicaraguan, Costa Rican and Colombian beans 3kg for $93 and that is normal price and roasted fresh 24 hours or less. Panama is right in the middle of these countries.

        So $95.80 for 2kg? What is so special about the Panama beans?

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        stumo on 04/04/2011 - 22:23

        +1

        Tell you what, when it arrives I will report back here.

        I've been on the sellers "Forte" variety for the past couple of months straight, that is now around $30/kg normal price. So I have something to compare it to, and I have a pretty good nose for what passes as good/bad coffee.

        I haven't tried the lesser blends yet, was going to but then this deal came up just at the right time.

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        camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 22:30

        +1

        Thanks stumo.

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        Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 05/04/2011 - 07:17

        @camelgrass - to remind you, this deal is $19.50/kg and roasted fresh, like it says on the website at baybeans.

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        camelgrass on 05/04/2011 - 11:46

        No it's not, the deal here is $39 for 2 kgs. I cannot buy 1 kg for $19.50.

        Your deal is only for another 2 days or so. After that your inflated price is greater than 50% more expensive. The price I was referring to is available any day of the year and you don't need to buy 2 kgs to get that price.

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    Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 22:14

    Just a few people that are makin this less fun by the minute, but i will stick it out….

    The price is the price. $19.50/kg is the deal for my premium reserve. You don't have to buy it.

    For everyone else, I might change to making offers to subscribers of baybeans VIP members in future before ozbargain. If your interested;
    http://www.baybeans.com.au/vip-club.html

    Thanks

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      camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 22:27

      +1

      What makes the beans "premium" or is that just marketing?

      Also, how often do you roast? How fresh do you guarantee the beans to be?

      As far as I'm concerned the Merlo beans from C/N America are premium as well but they don't engage in marketing spin as you do. They just roast great coffee.

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    infinite on 05/04/2011 - 03:23

    Have to agree.

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  Natt on 04/04/2011 - 22:14

  +3

  James its a simple question, your deal says it $95.80 value

  but thats really only true if its a product line you normally sell at that price

  so I am asking when you started selling it, to judge if your deal is valid

  I read your link, it mentioned nothing about price

  and refusing to answer a pretty striaghtforward question?

  perhaps you might like to link something from wikipedia now, instead of just answering it?

  and while you are at it , have a look at "was-now" pricing guidelines

  http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/815334?pag…

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    Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 04/04/2011 - 22:18

    +1

    I'm on an iPhone. Belting out replies to your funny questions. The link is there, google is your friend. Have fun. It's at least 12 months, probably a lot longer.

    Edit: just noticed your trickery with editing your previous posts. Not playing anymore.

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      Natt on 04/04/2011 - 22:27

      +2

      and yet no answer?

      ho hum

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        camelgrass on 04/04/2011 - 22:39

        +1

        Yeah, no straight answers from James as of yet.

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        andy19363 on 04/04/2011 - 23:01

        +3

        I doubt he'll be back…. clearly a scoundrel….
        thank god you exposed him….. now we can all see that he copied a block of text from another webpage…. prison's not good enough I say…..

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    Ughhh on 04/04/2011 - 23:09

    +2

    Haha, has Natts account been hacked by jv ?! :P

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      Ashlea on 05/04/2011 - 02:33

      +1

      Haven't seen enough bold.

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    Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 05/04/2011 - 07:19

    @nate - appreciate you adding text to your comment after the initial post. Doesnt really give me a fair chance to respond. Thanks for the reference to ACCC, have always been aware of that, and really its just common sense, isnt it?

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  Natt on 04/04/2011 - 23:03

  +2

  maybe hes busy playing minecraft, horribly addictive game

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  nubzy on 04/04/2011 - 23:06

  can you send me a free sample of your coffee just like to make 2 cups in an espresso machine? I want to try before I order.

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  fijiwater on 04/04/2011 - 23:42

  +5

  Dont think its fair to be ganging up on James. He's offering a product at a price. I think the true coffee lovers will determine the price perception of this deal and those satisfied that its a deal, will buy. Isn't that the basis of all deals?

  Pop into a gloria jeans store and their beans retail at around $50-60kg. In recent times, bean prices have also shot up significantly. Whether the beans are premium or not is like asking whether all wines from france are fantastic? There's people who value Cat Poo coffee as the best sh!t they've ever tasted at $50/cup.

  So i say buy if you wish, or go have a nescafe blend 43!

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    Natt on 05/04/2011 - 01:19

    +2

    I think thats a good point

    in hindsight - the indepth posts (mine) really don't seem to achieve much

    too much fur flying around for my liking, which was not what I intended :(

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      StewBalls on 05/04/2011 - 01:59

      Thank goodness cooler heads are starting to prevail…poor Neil might be able to take a sip out of his coffee cup now without lightning scorching his lips! ;)

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