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2KG of Premium Reserve coffee $39 +postage (free post for 8KG+)

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Store Repbaybeans on 04/04/2011 - 17:25 baybeans.com.au (297 clicks)
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2kg of Premium Reserve coffee beans
You pay $39 +post (or Free post when you order 8kg+)

You MUST use this link or you will be charged full price - Exclusive to OzBargain;
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_b…

here is the regular product, if you want to pay full price.
http://www.baybeans.com.au/premium-reserve-coffee-beans.html

A Premium coffee bean created for our regular customers, or those seeking a little adventure. Each month we select a single exotic coffee bean variety, roast it fresh and offer it for sale through our PREMIUM RESERVE listing. The Premium Reserve bean is updated each month with the variety on offer and a description of the beans characteristics. The Premium Reserve bean costs a little more, and is available only until stocks last, but well worth the experience.

Thanks
James

EDIT: 7th April- three OzB members have voted this deal down due to the fact I copied text from an online dictionary as extra information relating to the region of Panama - sorry, I am not an encyclopedia. While I dont think there is a problem with that, I accept the votes good or bad. thanks for your continued support. James.

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      • Tal_Shiar on 05/04/2011 - 03:56

        right or wrong, atleast you made your points, I was following someone through live action on a negging spree, 4 negs in 20 minutes…smh

    • camelgrass on 05/04/2011 - 07:24
      +1

      Fair enough point, but who buys their beans form Gloria Jeans, lol? Merlo had cat poo coffee for $10 a cup in December, $65 for 125 grams.

      Good deals are not just about price perception, clearly for many OzB'ers it's also about transparency and behaviour patterns of the vendor (re behaviour I have already explained that well in my previous comments).

      I mean, for real, lines like:

      2KG of Premium Reserve coffee. Value $95.80. You pay $39 +postage. You save 59%

      That is a typical dubious group-buy site headline.

      • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 05/04/2011 - 07:29
        -1

        @camelgrass - I geddit now, your offended by the way the title is structured. truth is, it has all the details in a concise sentence. If they are doing it successfully, it must work is my line of thinking.

        • camelgrass on 05/04/2011 - 07:41

          Well, if you want to operate your business in a similar fashion to group-buy sites then that is up to you. Have a look in the deal threads and forums to see how much OzB'ers love group-buy sites. ;)

          The reality is you don't need to delve into the same dubious business and marketing strategies. I mean, does anybody actually believe the beans have a value of $95.80 in the first place?

        • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 05/04/2011 - 07:45

          @camelgrass - can we call it a truce after this?

          You said: " does anybody actually believe the beans have a value of [2kgs for] $95.80 [ or $47.90/kg] in the first place?"

          maybe we have forgotten what great coffee costs?

          Campos $46/kg
          https://www.camposcoffee.com/store/product.php?productid=161…

          Tobys $46.50
          http://www.tobysestate.com.au/index.php/woolloomooloo-blend-…

          Thats for regular coffee blends, not premium reserve.

          and the regualar (non OzB) page for this same coffee;
          http://www.baybeans.com.au/premium-reserve-coffee-beans.html

        • camelgrass on 05/04/2011 - 07:55

          maybe we have forgotten what great coffee costs?

          No, I buy my coffee from Merlo and their beans cost much less than that—$31.50 - $33.00 / kg. Their coffee is exceptional, they regularly win awards and voted the best coffee around these parts.

          I suggest you have a look at their website. Their is no marketing hype and no use of weasel words like premium reserve. As I mentioned previously, their beans from Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Colombia only cost $93 / 3 kgs. Panama is surrounded by these countries on all sides so what makes your Panamanian beans so special for you to normally charge (if that is really true) $95.80 / 2 kgs?

      • lostincanberra on 05/04/2011 - 10:33
        +1

        Stick my toe into this murky looking cesspit…

        You pays your money, you trys what you gets and you ONLY go back if YOUR quality/price judgement says 'yes'.

        I've bought coffee beans from retailers who also brew coffee for you (such as CosmoRex in Canberra) and been confident that I'm going to get something I like. I've also definitely NOT bought coffee beans for the same reason (Gloria Jeans). Sure, a good barista helps sway my judgement. But a poor coffee sample or poor barista won't sell me a thing.

        I've also bought coffee on-line (Coffeesnobs again :-)) because they've convinced me that they have passion and expertise to produce something decent AND that they'll stand behind their product.

        Was it cheap? No - but it wasn't horribly inflated either.

        Was it good? Yes.

        Was it to my taste? Some - not all.

        Result? I'll be going back for more of at least one of the coffees (to my surprise, labeled 'organic') and probably for smaller samples of a couple of their other offerings.

        My conclusion is that it is hard work selling what is essentially a sensory experience on-line. And you'll only ever get to first base if you can convince people that you are a passionate expert. Hyperbole by itself ain't going to do it.

        Oh, and by the way, it IS possible to have coffee that is TOO fresh. One advantage of buying on-line is that freshly roasted beans get a chance to 'degas' resulting in a better (more balanced) shot of coffee. How about selling that advantage?

      • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 07:13

        thanks for the tip - might take this to a group-buy site.

        • neil on 07/04/2011 - 12:50
          +3

          Ha….5 hours later.

          $49 on Zizzle

        • Telios on 07/04/2011 - 19:45

          Aw but no mention of "de-gas".
          Nice find tho neil.

        • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 20:30

          @neil good thing they don't have a forum ;-)

  • foxpro on 05/04/2011 - 09:35
    +1

    Woolworths has 1kg Lavazza coffee beans in many flavours for $16.99 this week. Just loaded up on it on Saturday.

    • stumo on 05/04/2011 - 09:45
      +1

      Thats a good deal, but I'd rather pay the extra $5 a kg for beans that I know were roasted this year. Premium or not.

  • nubzy on 05/04/2011 - 09:51
    +1

    thats a good price Foxpro but unfortunately they are stale and will not taste the best. I know a heap of cafes buy their coffee from Woolworths all that Vittoria and Lavazza rubbish but it ends up tasting like dishwater. I go to quality cafes that either roast their own beans or source it from quality roasters.

    • stumo on 05/04/2011 - 10:19

      Having said that nubzy, at our good local cafe I can taste whether or not their good barista is on that day. I'm sure most people could its that obvious.

      Same equipment, same machine, same beans, noticeably different shot. Seems there is some art to it, I know I can't do it, try as I might.

      • camelgrass on 05/04/2011 - 11:12
        +2

        Yeah, that's the thing. You can have the best, most expensive or in this case Premium Reserve beans (sounds like a wine?—rolls eyes) and have an average cup of coffee.

        This fact is pretty much widely accepted in the coffee industry: The end-quality of the cup of coffee is only 25% to do with the beans, 25% the machinery and 50% the barista.

        If the barista is really good, they can still make a great cup of coffee with Lavazza or Vittoria.

        • cmdwedge on 05/04/2011 - 11:49

          "If the barista is really good, they can still make a great cup of coffee with Lavazza or Vittoria."

          No.

        • lostincanberra on 05/04/2011 - 12:13
          +1

          Tend to agree. When I can't use my grinder and machine, Lavazza pre-ground is pretty acceptable and rather more pleasant than the premixed packets that lots of people use for camping etc.

          Sure, I miss my hardware - but if I'm out in the boondocks it is make do with something reasonable, or hang out until I get home :-(

          An under-trained or uncaring barista can make rubbish out of even the best coffee - while someone with skill will work out how to coax what is worth having out of second best materials.

        • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 07:21

          If the barista is really good, they can still make a great
          cup of coffee with Lavazza or Vittoria.

          thats almost completely false and misleading.

          You could say that a skilled barista could give the impression of a better coffee (or mask the fact the coffee is rancid and stale) compared to an unskilled person with techniques like better milk texturing, or by grinding the coffee more consistently, or tamping better, or by using hardware with more consistent pressure, or by temp surfing, but you will not make a great cup of coffee with lavazza or vitoria compared to fresh roasted coffee beans. Thats probably why some of your major coffee chains use a lot of syrups in their ready-to-drink coffees.

          To draw a parallel; think of Top Gear - the star in a reasonably priced car - even the stig can only do so good in that 'reasonably priced car'. give him an enzo, and whoa. on the other hand, give the enzo to an unskilled driver and there will be a much larger difference in lap times when you compare the stig to a layman (fresh roasted beans vs vittoria).

        • camelgrass on 07/04/2011 - 09:33
          +1

          You're welcome to your opinion, but it's not correct.

          I've consumed some very good coffees made from Vittoria. Lavazza, I can't really remember to be honest, haven't had it for a while. Anyway, I'm off for a Merlo!

    • camelgrass on 05/04/2011 - 11:17
      +1

      If cafes buy their coffee from Woolies then it's highly likely their baristas are poorly trained. See my comment above re baristas and the quality of a cup of coffee. If they roast the beans themselves then it's highly likely they will invest more in their baristas.

      So you can't determine that the coffee's crap just because of where they source the beans.

      • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 07:31

        Thats mostly true.

        Its probably more to do with the cafe owner appreciating the value of the more costly fresh roasted beans over supermarket grade coffee. (value is rarely the cheapest).

        When a cafe buys from a reputable roaster, they will usually be offered complimentary training for their staff - its sold as a value add to the cafe, but in reality its more of a quality assurance. A roaster really doesn't want their brand being (accidently) damaged at the hands of poorly trained front line staff.

    • foxpro on 05/04/2011 - 19:27

      Passionate responses. Real coffee lovers, I guess.
      For the last few years I bought my beans (Costa Rican high altitude hard shell Arabica, single malt :) freshly roasted on the day from a roaster on Bourke street ($70/3kg btw). Exact same stuff my favorite cafe uses. Next week I'll start with the Lavazza. Will report any downgrade perceived.

  • [Deactivated] on 05/04/2011 - 17:25

    Pity this deal isn't on for long. The missus bought 3 packs of Gloria Jeans for the Spidem Trevi I picked up on Ebay a few days ago. Happy to have a machine better than the Krups I bought a few weeks ago; where the steam nozzle keeps blowing off. Name dropping much? Yes. Happy to have an automatic machine that makes a decent coffee? Yes!

  • freecycle on 05/04/2011 - 17:43

    Does anyone know where to purchase green beans in sydney? Much rather roast my own then being ripped off by old supermarket stock or over inflated retailers pushing there products

    • bargainy on 06/04/2011 - 08:01
      +2

      Dunno about Sydney but you can probably get the best prices shipped from http://www.coffeesnobs.com.au and of course green beans have a shelf life of up to two years.

      • camelgrass on 06/04/2011 - 19:07
        +1

        Sorry, replied to wrong comment.

      • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 07:25

        there are a lot of green bean suppliers and quite a few that will deal in small quantities suitable for the home roaster. Coffee Snobs is a good place to start with an active forum to help you along the way. expect a good variety of seasonal green and brown beans. Their roasted beans start from around $35/kg, which is only around $12/kg more than Bay Beans and they donate to FairCrack. Dont quote me, but I think they are not for profit.

        • bargainy on 07/04/2011 - 07:58
          +1

          Used to be non profit and rather rag tag. These days it is a modest commercial operation although I note the profit comes mostly from the roasted beans rather than green.

  • freecycle on 06/04/2011 - 12:47

    Thanks Garglebutt, Just placed an order with coffeesnobs. Much cheaper prices overall. Bought the green beans to roast myself, so will be a lot more fresh .
    Really dont know how some can justify $95 for 2kilos. Must be a huge mark up on the wholesale price.

    • stumo on 06/04/2011 - 13:06

      How much are their roasted bean prices /kg? bit snobbish that you have to create an account just to see the prices lol.

      • freecycle on 06/04/2011 - 13:44

        Stumo, They have a lot more variety on there. Setting up account was simple and easy. I bought the green beans to roast myself. You dont realise how much variety there until you look around.

        • stumo on 06/04/2011 - 13:55

          I just want to get a feel for the fresh roasted prices, for example what is their cheapest bean /kg? and dearest /kg?.

    • camelgrass on 06/04/2011 - 19:08

      Really dont know how some can justify $95 for 2kilos. Must be a huge mark up on the wholesale price.

      They justify it by calling it "Premium Reserve" to increase the value perception (when in fact the green beans are unlikely to cost significantly more—if at all). Also, there's the marketing factor which allows them to have "sales" such as 59% off, while still not making a loss.

      You'll notice that the vendors that do really well and have a great product and reputation don't need to engage in questionable sales and marketing, their product sells itself by word of mouth and reputation.

      • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 07:36

        their product sells itself by word of mouth and reputation.

        absolutely. as with any industry, product or service. We have our customers and their contacts to thank mostly for our huge success.

    • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 07:26
      +1

      Yes, there is a massive mark up, and I really enjoy what I do too. Win-win.

      • camelgrass on 07/04/2011 - 08:37

        If there is a massive mark up as you say, then your claim in the title of this deal (that you just removed—thank you—yay!), "$95.80 Value", is in fact, not true.

        By the way, the comment you just added to your post regarding copyright infringment and negative votes, that was not the only reason for negative votes and in fact not the main issue I had and I would have not voted negative if it was the only issue.

        • Natt on 07/04/2011 - 08:53

          quote from baybeans "I'm on an iPhone. Belting out replies to your funny questions. The link is there, google is your friend. Have fun. It's at least 12 months, probably a lot longer.

          Edit: just noticed your trickery with editing your previous posts. Not playing anymore"

          seems you are comfortable with tricky eh?

          can't believe this is still going ;P

          interesting info re coffeesnobs

        • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 08:54
          +1

          If there is a massive mark up as you say, then your claim in the title of this deal
          (that you just removed—thank you—yay!), "$95.80 Value", is in fact, not true.

          Absolutely it is true. Markup has absolutely nothing to do with the RRP. I reckon a mercedes has a markup of about $30,000 or a lot more if you think about raw materials - but there is a lot more that mark-up needs to cover. In the example of Mercedes, R&D, staff, insurance, tax, profit, premises - we really could be here all day rattling off the costs of a business.

          If I choose to forfeit profit or margin or even decide on a loss-leader, thats my choice as the business owner. The product is available on my website at full price, which is $47.90/kg and I have made an offer to OzB that is significantly less. My choice to offer - your choice to walk away (even if you are in the minority).

          regarding your vote - if you voted down for more than one reason, thats too bad - you only get one vote, no matter how many things you disagree with.

        • neil on 07/04/2011 - 09:22

          Let's move on. No one wants to hear you guys bicker back and forth.

          The coffee discussion is interesting so let's stick with that.

        • Ashlea on 07/04/2011 - 09:23
          +1

          I do. I'm not even a huge coffee drinker, yet I'm subscribed to this thread to hear them argue. :P

        • camelgrass on 07/04/2011 - 09:25
          +1

          LOL, then you have to delete all the comments, Neil.

          Neil, I explained something that was very relevant to this deal—inaccurate information in the deal description.

  • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 09:30

    Have updated this deal to mention free delivery for orders of 8kg and more. (Note: 8kg+ is not recommended for the home/casual coffee drinker, but has been great for offices, cafes and coffee-clubs).

  • Natt on 07/04/2011 - 09:35
    +1

    actually I voted negative, not because you copied and pasted from another website

    but because:

    1. in a nutshell you told another ozbargainer that his negative was unfair because you acknowledged your source. However you did not change your page until after his negative. This was deceptive on your part

    2. I believe you artifically inflated the cost of your product to create a false discount. I do not beleve that you "normally" sell this item for so much. And yes I know that you have a feature coffee program, thats not really enough evidence either way.

    3. Your logic bemuses me

    You say your coffee is worth a certain price, because "good coffee" costs. And then quote another persons website re costs.

    All that says is how much they think their coffee is worth.

    Its like this, lets say I sell cheese.

    So I make my cheese and put it on my website at $50 a kilo.

    Then I offer a special deal for $25 a kilo

    I cannot say its worth $50 just because thats what another website sells cheese for.

    There cheese might be different, it might be camembert while mine is just processed cheese.

    My product stands or not on its own

    And if I could have another negative I would, because

    1. you summarised my opinion - and wrongly

    2. you edited your posts after indicating this was "sneaky"

    3. You seem to be happy to play the "victim" and thats not the case imho

    4. Little anyone has said has made a dent, a principled business would have modified its behaviour long before now

    I don't care if you cut and paste from another website (although they might).

    And as for the artifical inflation - wise ozbargainers will pick that up and decide if the real price suits.

    I don't doubt your passion James, but you need to stop now.

      • Natt on 07/04/2011 - 10:15
        +2

        not for some time

        hmm interestingly - since I did indeed post for the above reasons

        Neg retracted. I'll just stick to leaving the comments as required

        which is allowable under the voting guidelines

        thanks andy!

    • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 10:18

      (caveat - this is a little long, and I have snipped the conversation, but the full conversation is here in the thread to compare if you prefer to refer to that).

      Nat Says: > actually I voted negative, because:
      Nat Says: > 1. you did not change your page until after his negative. This was deceptive on your part

      I responded and updated the page. I think thats a pretty good outcome.

      Nat Says: > 2. I believe you artifically inflated the cost of your product to create a false discount.
      Nat Says: > I do not beleve that you "normally" sell this item for so much.

      You have the option to purchase at my regular price for this coffee on offer, choose the OzB discount offer, or choose either of the two alternate suppliers at the price point of 45-$47, or go to Gloria Jeans and pay $60/kg. I provided links, but here they are again for completeness;

      Campos $46/kg
      https://www.camposcoffee.com/store/product.php?productid=161…

      Tobys $46.50
      http://www.tobysestate.com.au/index.php/woolloomooloo-blend-…

      Bay Beans $47.90
      http://www.baybeans.com.au/premium-reserve-coffee-beans.html

      Or, use the OzB discount code (in this offer) to purchase 2kgs for less than the price of one KG at my normal selling price as part of this promo

      Nat Says:> You say your coffee is worth a certain price, because "good coffee" costs.

      thats right - generally speaking, you get what you pay for. or, you can buy that same good coffee as a deal or discount. Buying cheaper coffee is not an alternative - your only getting cheaper coffee for less money in that case.

      Nat Says:> Its like this, lets say I sell cheese. There cheese might be different,
      Nat Says:> it might be camembert while mine is just processed cheese.

      but thats not comparing apples with apples. Thats processed vs camembert

      To break it down. the coffee on offer here, and the coffee that a lot of people have purchased at both my RRP and this one off discounted rate via OzB has a normal selling price of $47.90/kg. I have given you examples of other companies selling their coffee at that price point, as well as Gloria Jeans who sell their coffee at $60/kg. I give those examples to make the point, its a perfectly reasonable price point. I choose to offer OzB a discount for a time period.

      I should also note, I have other coffees available from $22.90/kg, 27.90, 33.90 and 47.90

      Most importantly - to refute the strawman attack that this coffee was created specifically for the purpose of discounting - Premium Reserve was announced in December 2009
      http://coffee.baybeans.com.au/coffee-news/newsletter-decembe…

      • Natt on 07/04/2011 - 10:25

        "Most importantly - to refute the strawman attack that this coffee was created specifically for the purpose of discounting - Premium Reserve was announced in December 2009
        http://coffee.baybeans.com.au/coffee-news/newsletter-decembe…

        I did not say that, I said the price might be inflated.

        So for the sake of clearing the air - how much did your last premium reserve (PNG I think) sell for on your website?

        before this promotion?

        • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 11:00
          +1

          Natt says> So for the sake of clearing the air - how much did your last
          Natt says> premium reserve (PNG I think) sell for on your website?

          Premium reserve fluctuates due to the nature of it being 'until sold out and small batch';

          July 2010 $44.90
          December 2009 $57.50 (this price was with delivery, so scrub $9)

          Those are the prices the Premium Reserve was sold and paid for, not just advertised.

          and I found this nice internet snapshot www.waybackmachine.org

          http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090615064529/http://www.b…

          Is that all, officer? (PS: I appreciate you have retracted your neg vote)

      • stumo on 07/04/2011 - 10:31

        Damn James, I was hoping you were going to break out another car analogy then. I'm really enjoying them.

      • camelgrass on 08/04/2011 - 06:07

        to refute the strawman attack that this coffee was created specifically for the purpose of discounting

        I form my view on evidence available at hand. Not that I think that was the only reason for creating the product. I can change my view if new information comes to hand—like a discount of 59% on your $22.90 / kg beans! ;)

        Also, re the profit on a Mercedes car, well of course a $30,000 margin on a $150,000 - $200,000 car wouldn't be unusual at all. In fact most car manufacturers work on the same 15% profit margin. A 30 grand margin on an $80,000 Mercedes, no way.

      • camelgrass on 08/04/2011 - 08:00

        Tell me, re your anology, where can I get a Mercedes for 59% off—I'm there! ;)

        • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 08/04/2011 - 08:18
          +1

          I haven't seen Merc advertise on OzB, yet - but they protect their rrp and generally dont discount. thats part of their prestige pricing.

          The offer I made to OzB is a loss leader, in the hope that people will try Bay Beans and then make the decision to become a regular customer. For me, even though it costs me money (to discount this heavily), its billed as a marketing cost. I could easily blow more cash on say a TV advert, or print ad, for a similar response.

          To quote Wiki again, here is a good article on pricing (and probably very interesting to the average OzB member) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pricing

        • camelgrass on 08/04/2011 - 09:02

          but they protect their rrp and generally dont discount. thats part of their prestige pricing.

          It was a joke! I couldn't make sense of your analogy.

          But, yes, it doesn't matter whether it's a mercedes or a hyundai, auto manufacturers don't discount heavily because there's not much room to move percentage wise.

        • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 08/04/2011 - 09:05
          +1

          it was a joke

          I probably should have inserted a smiley ;-) so was mine.

  • Natt on 07/04/2011 - 12:26
    +1

    @baybeans

    thanks for the info

    Accordingly:

    " in a nutshell …… This was deceptive on your part" -> still stands. We do however agree that aside from the comment to the ozbargainer editing your package was a good outcome

    "I believe you artifically inflated …….." -> I will have to take your word on the wayback machine (darn thing won't work for me), but indeed if your feature coffees regularly sell for this much -> I apologise wholeheartedly for this commen

    Your logic bemuses me -> still does -> an explanation that you regularly have a feature coffee, and you just added this month, and the past price points are similar = ftw

    Interestingly I still think that your handling of the criticism and the extensive editing (despite you identifying it as "sneaky") needs improvement.

    But then to be fair, so does my own efforts, and I can hardly criticise you when I have been just as guilty.

    I do note your efforts, and they are appreciated.

    Had you posted your deal as it stands now - I would have upvoted you straight out positive.

    Your beans have to be better than the store bought stuff, and its not much more expensive.

    hmmm.. Officer eh? I like it!

  • [Deactivated] on 07/04/2011 - 13:54
    +1

    No more coffee for Natt and Camelgrass! Who's with me?

    • Natt on 07/04/2011 - 14:05

      actually I gave up caffeine a couple of months back

      only decaf now

      and I would not lump in Camel with me.

      poor camel

    • StewBalls on 09/04/2011 - 01:38
      +1

      Lol, back in the old days we'd say they should "have a Bex & a good lie down"! :p

      • [Deactivated] on 09/04/2011 - 20:14
        +1

        Back in the old days? I'm not gonna tell the missus that - she still says it!

  • nubzy on 07/04/2011 - 17:02

    Can someone tell me where to go to get fresh roasted, great beans in Sydney? I LOVE Danes coffee and thinking of going down to Brookvale where they make it and getting some. not sure if its fresh? Should be though.. It has a strong but rich and creamy flavour which I love.

    Also, any reccomendations for a grinder? Only really want to spend up to $100. I dont like buying the pre-ground coffee after hearing how quick it deteriorates. Rather buy 500grams of fresh roasted beans and grind as I go.

    • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 17:27
      +1

      Is it Danes at Dee Why? Run by Paul Jackson, they are a roaster, so no reason why it wouldn't be fresh coffee - priced around $44/kg for small quantities or $32 when you buy 5kg+. A simple test is to feel the bag - for the first few days coffee releases gasses and will puff the bag up (where the one way valve will protect the bag from exploding). Very low tech indicator, but very effective.

      As for Grinder - your looking for a conical burr grinder, if your using an espresso machine (which requires a consistent grind). Dont get Breville - they might cost you $90-$140, but they dont have the goods. For a very good entry level (price point) grinder, look at Sunbeam EM0480 (or 430) - they can be had for $100-$180. If you want to spend more , look at Rancilio Rocky at around $400. If you can buy fresh beans, and grind on demand, you are well on the way to a great coffee. A grinder is a more important purchase to get right compared to a machine.

  • nubzy on 07/04/2011 - 17:45

    Thanks mate I think that Sunbeam EM0480 looks like the one to get. Yeah Danes coffee tastes really good and is the best coffee on the Northern Beaches in my opinion so I think I will just get a little bit from them to try it out. My machine is a Sunbeam and it cost about $200, but it seems to be pretty good to me and that was when I was using the preground supermarket stuff!! For the past few months it has been sitting there because I do not have a good grinder and it takes about 5-10 minutes to clean it up after making coffee.

  • nubzy on 07/04/2011 - 17:59

    The other thing is it only has a crappy plastic tamp, im not sure if its worth getting a metal one though.

    • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 07/04/2011 - 18:04

      I would say a new tamp is a good idea, I would do that before considering a new machine. Go for a heavy flat base tamp that fits your portafilter basket snug. As with anything, sky is the limit with cost, but $40!will get you what you need and close enough to being as good as a $150 tamp for your use. I have a few videos on the website.

  • Natt on 08/04/2011 - 08:54

    Not sure if this helps but we have a one of these at home:

    http://www.sunbeam.com.au/Pages/Browse/ProductDetail.aspx?pi…

    Its at least a couple years old now, and still works great

    I dread replacing it though, as we did not get it at the full price :P

  • Chuckler on 10/04/2011 - 20:16
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    ^^ Still 1 day left on the deal, get this by direct clicking the link in the post.

    • Store Repbaybeans @ Bay Beans on 10/04/2011 - 21:00
      +1

      Hi. Sorry for the weror - this deal ended today the 10th. Seems OzB defines that as being midnight today or tomorrow. Please contact me direct if this is something you would like and I will put it through manually. Thanks. James.

  • [Deactivated] on 12/04/2011 - 09:00

    Doh! Missed the deal. I was leaving it until the last day so I'd get the freshest coffee. I forgot to get my order in. :(

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