expired LG 27" 4K UHD IPS LED Monitor with AMD FreeSync (27UD59-B) $349 + Delivery (Free with Shipster) @ Kogan

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Been looking for a budget 4k monitor for awhile now and just found this. Lowest price i've seen, previous lowest price was in Nov 2018 at Futu (ebay) for $399 delivered.

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    For a gaming display I'd take 120hz over HDR to minimise input lag. I'm not one of these people that "can't go back to 60hz" the visible switch doesn't bother me at all but I can feel the improved responsiveness on 100hz to about 144hz. I tried a 200hz screen and couldn't tell the difference.

    Another thing to note is that most HDR monitors don't meet true HDR spec so the benefits are minimal. Typically the backlight can't achieve great enough brightness or the backlight washes into what should be dark areas on the cheaper models.

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    I have the older model (58). It is a good entry level 4K, however the contrast ratio is not high enough for a sunlit room. I don't know if they fixed this in the new model. Other than this, it's been ok for gaming and anything else. Just note that you will need at least gtx 1080 to be able to benefit from 4k gaming. Ideally you will need 2080ti to run many new games on max settings.

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    Rip wallet

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      This one. The VP28UQG has a TN panel.

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        What about for primarily Xbox One X 4K use?

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          The only metric that the Asus beats this monitor on is response time - 5ms on the LG vs 1ms on the Asus. I really doubt you'd notice the difference in response time playing on a console.

          IPS has significantly better colour reproduction and contrast, better viewing angles, your eyes will thank you.

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      now i don't know what one to get, one difference is the LG is IPS panel and the asus is TN

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        If you must get one of the two, then this one because it is IPS and the TN doesn't offer anything above 60Hz (while it does have better input lag, but if your 1080p gaming is locked to 60Hz/fps max, it just doesn't feel like a TN gaming monitor).

        Make sure your graphics card can do 4K@60Hz.

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        Unless you're a fairly hardcore FPS (eg csgo) gamer…always go IPS over TN

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          I already have a 1080p 144hz TN monitor, but my 2nd monitor is overdue for an upgrade

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    Would this monitor ship with a hdmi 2.0 cable? or would i have to buy one seperate

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      It comes with one. However, standard HDMI cable should work fine still.

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        standard doesn't support 4k60hz tho, so would be looking for hdmi 2.0
        thanks for info

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          Read The 4K HDMI Cable rip-off. If you want to waste money to buy expensive cables, go ahead.

          This is just HDMI 2.0, not HDMI 2.0a or HDMI 2.0b or above. Do bear in mind that some LG monitors requiring you to set the HDMI port to deep colour mode before you can actually use 4K on the HDMI port (DisplayPort is not limited).

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    thks, bought one. It's much cheaper than FUTU with 20% off on Ebay, and you'd need a computer alliance deal at 20% off to match which ebay don't seem to too often across the board and include the monitor at no price jacking.

    came to $360 delivered to Melbourne.

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    Will this be ok as a home office monitor? Would be purely used for work and no movies/gaming.

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      See my first comment in this post. I've covered it. In short, it doesn't have 2K resolution support and even if it does, it won't look very sharp. For pure work, at 27 inch, I recommend 2K monitor. I have both 27 inch 4K and 2K monitors. For work, I go and use the 2K monitor. You can use OS scaling and app scaling, but at 4K, some apps just don't scale properly. However, if you just use latest Office and latest browsers, then 4K should be fine.

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      What work do you do? I respectfully disagree with netsurfer.

      I got my first Dell 4k 27" more than 2 years ago. Back then there were some scaling issues on W7.

      Have another 4k 27" now and basically everything works prefectly. I use W10 and so engineering work which work fine (CAD, MS office etc). Unless you're using some really really unusual software most have decent support now. If you have a Mac then support is also top notch.

      For my work that extra resolution in CAD just makes every image and text crisp. Same with MS office, never going back =)

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        I work for a bank and most of my work is through Chrome and a couple internal programs which are quite old, just reading text really. Work laptop runs on W7.

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          my work is through Chrome and a couple internal programs which are quite old, just reading text really. Work laptop runs on W7.

          Chrome should run okay. Internal programs - doubtful they will scale properly (used to work for a bank - some of their apps are really legacy apps). Windows 7 don't do app scaling well though. Windows 10 does a better job.

          If your work laptop runs Windows 7, I doubt the HDMI port can do 4K@60fps. You can get this monitor if you want to. 4K monitors run quite well at 1080p mode. From what you mentioned, I don't think you need the extra workspace 2K monitor offers.

          Worst case, run Chrome based tasks on the new monitor, old apps on the laptop screen.

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            @netsurfer: Ended up getting it so we'll see how it goes. Seeing as I normally have at least 5 chrome tabs I need to flick between, the additional screen real estate will make life easier. Hopefully. Thanks!

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              @anikam: At this price, cannot go wrong. You will be able to at least watch youTube in 4K. Not sure whether LG changed it for this, some of their 4K 27 inch displays have the HDMI port default to 1080p mode. You need to set HDMI Ultra HD Deep Color to On to switch it to 4K.

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          Old internal programs will likely not work/scale properly (unusual software).

          W7 had scaling issues as I mentioned. Chrome will work on 4k

          But at this price you're basically future proof yourself with a bargain priced 4k IPS monitor for when your next laptop/PC can fully support it.

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        everything works prefectly

        That's not true. While newer apps generally work fine, older apps and some of the specialised apps don't work. Even for the ones that work fine, you pretty much have to use scaling on 4K at 27 inch. Thus, essentially, you are not actually fully utilising the entire 4K. Then, you have issues with apps wanting to use 1:1 vs apps that work fine with scaling. For most people, without scaling, 4K 27 inch (at its native / zero scaling) is not work friendly (other than 4K video editing perhaps). Once you use scaling, you are essentially reducing actual overall usable workspace.

        If you have a Mac then support is also top notch.

        It depends on the Mac. I have a Macbook Pro 2017 13 inch, the OS I ran initially wouldn't allow 4K out of the box (interestingly, the PC and laptop I tested both ran 4K without issue). I had to do a few things to get the MBP to do 4K. Let's pretend there is zero issue there (since you only need to setup once). Are you using the "More Space" (the one all the way to the right? - true 4K)? If not, let's say you use the middle setting, that's 1692p essentially. Not to mention, for a Donglebook, you need to get a decent dongle (USB-C to 4K/60Hz). Most cheap multi-port dongles can only do 4K@30fps. You plug those dongles into a 2K screen, 2K 60fps right away, no fuss.

        Even on Mac, I still would like some software to run at 4K (video editing related or video playback), while most apps run in scaled mode.

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          Well I consider scaling (W10) to be using the entire 4k, text and images are definitely clearer even though the icons may be almost the size as a 27" 1080p screen. I wouldn't use 4k 1:1, pixels just too small. I'm happy to 'waste' the screen resolution in this manner.

          As I stated unusual software may not work.

          It depends on the Mac.

          Absolutely. I haven't tried every Mac and don't own one (engineering software and Mac do not play ball).

          I tried with a friends Macbook using DisplayPort and got 4k60 with no fiddling required. Probably dongle dependent

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            @thetrain: First of all, I am just pointing out that with 2K, you can simply use 1:1. So, there is no scaling. Once you get a 4K monitor, the first thing you need to do is play with scaling settings. And, if you are like me and prefer different scaling for different apps, then there is a bit of setup. Once you have an app that simply doesn't scale, it becomes annoying. I also have a dumb app that simply doesn't work unless you run in 1:1 mode. I am running 2018 October version (latest) - obviously it hasn't considered 4K support.

            I tried with a friends Macbook using DisplayPort and got 4k60 with no fiddling required.

            Older Macbook Pro with Thunderbolt 2 ports? Those would work fine. Macbook Pro 15 inch is also fine (provided you get the right dongle). Macbook Pro 13 inch - it really depends (the issue I had is OS related - Apple blocked it by default, not dongle related). Dongle also matters though:

            Apple's official USB-C Digital Multiport Adapter - 4K@30Hz (not 60). Try not to paint the picture that it just works for every Mac. It is complicated. Deep down, Apple want you to go Thunderbolt 3 route.

            Also, I reminded people to watch out for Intel's HDMI limitation. 4K@60Hz still has a bit of growing pain (esp. if you have older hardware).

            NOT saying don't get 4K 27 inch. 4K/27 inch makes sense for home use with occasional work (better entertainment value). I use my 4K 27 inch a lot because I don't do that much work at home. I do most of my work at work.

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              @netsurfer: Update: monitor was delivered today and have set it up in the home office, it's perfect! Size is great, and the ample screen real estate means that I can use 4 corners of the monitor to have all my programs and Chrome tabs open. Happy with my purchase!

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      i bought it for for work use, no gaming. current. monitor is 32” 2k ….sitting 60cm from the screen at a desk i find the 32” looks curved at the left and right edges due to parallax.

      previously has 1920x1400 28” and that had no parallax issues when sitting up close but i wanted finder pixels which the 2k didn’t deliver…..

      so 27” 4k should be smaller pixels and no parallax when sitting up close, it’s what some people at work had for their surface tablets and it looked nice.

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    I reckon 4K is great for home office . With the lg screen split software I can get 4 1920x1024 screens .

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    Will a 680 card be enough to power a 4K resolution or not?

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      some of the intel on chips graphics will drive 4k depending how old your cpu is, if not used for gaming but office type work screen updates aren’t cpu intensive.

      some of the surface tablets drive 4k and they don’t have dedicated graphics processor, but they also don’t do fast frame rates and are used for work not gaming.

      check which generation cpu you have.

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        For HDMI with an intel CPU and embedded graphics, it not only depends on the CPU, it depends on the motherboard as well. If the motherboard does not have LSCON chip for the HDMI port, then it is likely 4K@30fps.

        So, for intel CPU, best to use DisplayPort. But if the CPU is too old, the DisplayPort cannot do 4K@60Hz either.

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          Netsurfer,

          yeah you nailed it,

          on my gen 6 the CPU and motherboard, 4k is only 30hz for 4K.
          Display port is 4k 60hz …. so I will need DP cable for 4K 60hz … have lots of HDMI. no DP cables :-(

          So now the quest for cheap display port cable that does 4k at 60hz at 3M off ebay … I'm sure this will be as bad as myth busting HDMI cables.

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      yes but dont even think about gaming except really old/indie games

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      680 only does 4K@30hz / 30fps. This monitor can do 4K@60fps - it still runs 4K@30fps fine.

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    Does my Samsung U28E850R 28" LED LCD monitor compare to this at all? I’m getting a high end PC built now and thinking I may need to upgrade. Any thoughts?

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      Your U28E850R has USB 3.0 ports, VESA like stand (height adjustable, pivot, rotation support). This one has IPS (U28E850R is TN), no USB 3 ports (does have VESA mounting point but included stand is not VESA).

      Define high end PC - i.e. which graphics card(s) you plan to get. What type of gaming are you after? If you are serious about gaming, 60fps/hz monitors probably won't cut it. For example: you go for RTX 2080, it doesn't make sense to get this LG monitor.

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        Thanks for that. Actually that’s exactly what I’m getting. If you search tech fast and see the 1920x Thread Ripper deal, I ordered one of them so fairly high end. I’ve heard so many differing opinions on what to buy. I assume a 27 or so inch 1440p monitor with 144mhz refresh rate seems to be the go. I would want something that can also support my PS4 with low input lag a must as I play games like cod mostly. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks.

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          There is one, but you are not going to like the price (RRP is around $2999):

          https://www.asus.com/au/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG27UQ/

          Even with that, you have to use DisplayPort for PC gaming. As the specs indicates: DP: 3840 x2160 @ 144Hz (overclocking)/
          DP: 3840x2160 @120Hz (native)/HDMI : 3840x 2160 (up to 60Hz). It is a limitation of current official HDMI standard (HDMI 2.0a is just 4K@60Hz). It is a true IPS HDR gaming monitor and it supports GSync (which works with RTX 2080).

          PS4 Pro, honestly, at best it does dynamic 4K @ 30fps (with true res more like 1440p). I can understand the preference for low input lag, but for consoles, you don't need high refresh rate monitors. PS4 Pro doesn't support FreeSync (at least not yet).

          A 1440p gaming monitor probably makes more sense price wise, but then you hit another issue. PS4 Pro does not support 1440p (even though it would make a lot of sense to support it). So, you can only run 1080p on a 1440p monitor and it won't look very sharp (All LCD monitors only look really sharp at native resolution). However, you already have your U28E850R so you could use that for PS4 Pro if you do want to save money and get a 2K (1440p) gaming monitor instead. It's just RTX 2080 seems to be an overkill for 1440p gaming.

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            @netsurfer: Holy smokes! Yeah that’s a bit out of the price range lol. I could probably budget around $600 max for a monitor if you have any other suggestions? In the mean time I’ll just test the Samsung once I get my build, I do know it’s limited with the refresh rate, though which is going to be the biggest drag but maybe it’s not so bad. Time will yell. Thanks for your input, much appreciated.

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              @snagseb: Cannot help you with a cost effective gaming monitor. I don't even have a budget for RTX2080 so I haven't looked into 1440p gaming monitors.

              This monitor is attractive, price wise. And, it is IPS. It's just that it will be another 4K monitor for you without HDR. I know it is probably not a big deal, but it would be good to have the option to play games, watch 4K videos in HDR.

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                @netsurfer: True. There will be other deals. I’ll do some proper research and then hold out for the right one. I still won’t receive my build for close to 2 weeks and I have the Samsung for now so all good. Cheers.

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    Thinking of selling my Samsung ue590d for this

    Good idea?

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    A good price but a strange product. 4k needs a very expensive card to drive it but 27 inches isn't big enough for 4k to be useful. I run a 40 inch 4k panel for desktop use and it's great, but only a smaller 1080 panel for gaming. Maybe this panel can do both as a one screen compromise but it will be somewhat inferior for both things. Well the freesync is handy if you are running AMD cards …

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      people at work have small (28") 4K screens for their surface tablets to dock to when at their desks. You get sharper images the main part of the screen you use due to smaller pixels and font size adjustment, and on the background you fit more due to smaller pixels and if you shrink windows.

      40" panel at a desk eg 45 cm from eyes would make you move head from left to right when looking at edges, lucky you got that past the OH&S people at work for ergonomics. At my old work people that needed the extra view area got 2 screens, one for their main work area, and one for "other stuff / apps", but this was typically 2x1080p screens, 4k screen users just had one about 28".