The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers – The Complete Recordings on Vinyl. 5LP. $79.58 @ DeepDiscountEntertainment via Amazon Au

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THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS – THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS on vinyl for the first time as a 5-LP boxed set. Housed in a collector’s box with a blue leather-style spine, the collection is limited to 8,000 individually numbered copies on blue vinyl (Apparently).

The other sets go for about $127. So hopefully they will go down to that price point at some point.

Label:
Reprise Records ‎– RCV1-565277, WaterTower Music ‎– 603497862627
Format:
5 × Vinyl, LP, Blue
Box Set, Album, Limited Edition, Numbered
Country:
UK, Europe & US
Released:
27 Jul 2018
Genre:
Pop, Classical, Stage & Screen
Style:
Soundtrack, Score, Contemporary, Neo-Romantic

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  SpaceNinja on 26/05/2019 - 01:02

  +8

  For the record, this is a good deal.

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    bailbondsh on 26/05/2019 - 01:17

    i see what you did there

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  thebadmachine on 26/05/2019 - 01:20

  +2

  I think it’s worth mentioning that there is a possibility with modern vinyl records (even major artists) that are pressed with poor quality (smears, scratches, marks) & produce poor quality audio (compressed, distorted, muddy, bass-heavy, sometimes only left or right channel distortion).
  So please read reviews (Amazon US / Discogs etc) of modern vinyl before purchasing (and read the ones addressing quality of physical product).

  The recently released vinyl record for (which I passed on) Heaven & Earth by Kamasi Washington seemed to have this issue.
  It seems new vinyl releases are having issues with poor to mediocre standards in pressing & handling.

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    bailbondsh on 26/05/2019 - 01:23

    definitely and I agree. Reviews are important. When vinyl was in boom back in the day the standards were higher i believe.

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      thebadmachine on 26/05/2019 - 01:35

      I think it’s the resurgence of youth who are interested in buying a record player and getting that ‘needle-drop’ sound & experience when listening to music (which I also think is appealing).

      It’s important to know that most modern vinyl is cut using the digital master (CD loudness, dynamic range & frequency response). So with a (perfectly pressed) modern record you are basically getting the same audio quality as CD with the needle-in-the-groove (characteristic) artefacts.

      I grew up with CD’s so I that is my preference, but there are certain old songs which I think deserves to be listened to on vinyl.

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        bailbondsh on 26/05/2019 - 01:38

        Well said. I'm a CD person as well. Still am, don't like digital media; skeptical about new vinyl, however I sell it at a market on the side. The vinyls I buy either go straight to my stall or it's for my collection (only my favourite bands.

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          thebadmachine on 26/05/2019 - 01:47

          @bailbondsh: Yeah I’ve got just only a few vinyl records, but rarely listen to them (similar to you more for a small collection).
          I recently started moving onto digital media (ripping CD’s / sharing / purchasing lossless downloads) and can only say it’s been great.
          I am loving the convenience of having the media stored on a device, and having it all play at your fingertips.

          I am one of the fortunate few (who avoided parties, clubs, bars and concerts) so I can hear up to around 25khz (I can hear the difference between PCM filters which only affect the very top-end, and the difference between 44.1khz & 48khz sample rates [22.5khz & 24khz peaks], Hi-Res 96khz+ sample rates are a bit over my head).
          And I can say when listening to Lossless digital audio files, even when using AirPlay, I am unable to hear any clear differences in audio from playing a CD.

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            bailbondsh on 26/05/2019 - 01:51

            @thebadmachine: you could possibly sway me to digital media then. Not sure how my ears are, i didn't party much, but i did make my ears bleed as a teenager listening to rap and metal through headphones :P

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              thebadmachine on 26/05/2019 - 01:55

              @bailbondsh: I will recommend a free software called Exact Audio Copy (EAC) for ripping CD’s.
              For the best results it limits the speed of the CD drive and after ripping, it compares the files you just ripped with an online database to confirm it is bit-perfect (exact same data as on CD).

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                bailbondsh on 26/05/2019 - 01:57

                @thebadmachine: wow this sounds like me, i'm gonna get obsessive now.

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                  thebadmachine on 26/05/2019 - 02:32

                  @bailbondsh: It was quite a learning curve to get everything running.
                  My current signal setup is: iPod Touch (using free Onkyo Player App) > AirPlay to Apple TV 3 > Toslink Digital output to DAC preamp > Audio system.
                  So signal is all digital right up until the DAC preamp.
                  This setup is convenient, wireless and cheaper than a ‘Network Player’ from a decent brand.

                  Apple TV 3 can produce bit-perfect results (receiving AirPlay & outputting digital optical) at 48khz when using Apple Lossless (ALAC) files (I converted all my FLAC files to ALAC to achieve this, was very quick & painless using foobar2000 & necessary plugins).
                  I have some 96khz files down sampled to 48khz so I like the Apple TV 3, but if you are only going to be using CD quality 44.1khz sample rate files, a better option instead of ATV 3 is Airport Express Model A1392 / MC414LL/A.

                  This model Airport Express has a 3.5mm output, which doubles as 3.5mm analog jack & a mini-Toslink digital output (3.5mm analog size), and can do bit-perfect audio at 44.1khz (CD native quality) with ALAC files.
                  You just need to buy a mini-Toslink to Toslink cable to connect to your DAC.

                  If you use this method together with a good DAC. I think you can achieve results at the very least equal to that of a proper CD player.

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            tromboc on 26/05/2019 - 05:05

            @thebadmachine: Wow you can hear considerably higher frequencies than the entire rest of the human population. You should submit your body for scientific research.

            I'm also confused by your last point. The whole idea is that nobody should be able to differentiate between lossless and uncompressed formats. That's the aim anyway.

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              FabMan on 26/05/2019 - 07:34

              +2

              @tromboc: Hearing high frequencies isn't that amazing, those buzzers that dogs are only supposed to hear hurt my ears, also I can't sleep with chargers in the bedroom as the coil wind sound irritates me.

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                tromboc on 26/05/2019 - 09:50

                @FabMan: Wow another superhuman. You guys should really contact some of the relevant scientists and researchers, to submit your anecdotal evidence against their peer reviewed lab studies.

                There's some in here, many more to be found with a simple web search.

                https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/ChrisDAmbrose.shtml

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                  FabMan on 26/05/2019 - 12:36

                  @tromboc: It isn't super hearing, its you not knowing what you are talking about.

                  You should know what an average or what standardize is, it's not the upper and lower limits of human hearing, it is what the majority of people fall into, which is 20Hz to 20kHz. Humans have been recorded as hearing as high as 28kHz and as low as 12Hz.

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                    tromboc on 26/05/2019 - 13:57

                    @FabMan: You have any…. evidence for that?

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                      FabMan on 26/05/2019 - 16:26

                      @tromboc: https://asa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/1.2761883

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                        rygle on 26/05/2019 - 20:46

                        -1

                        @FabMan: and @margejsimpson

                        I call BS…

                        In that study, the sound was played at 124dB, or 110dB at the entrance to the hearing canal.

                        110dB is equivalent to the noise of a steel mill or a car horn at 1m, or live rock music - http://www.industrialnoisecontrol.com/comparative-noise-exam…

                        Nobody is going to be listening to their vinyl, or any music in a household setting, at that level. In fact, your argument is that you can hear those frequencies precisely because you don't listen to music at those levels. Anybody who listened to music at those levels for very long certainly wouldn't be hearing this frequencies for long…

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                          FabMan on 27/05/2019 - 04:25

                          @rygle: What exactly was my claim that is BS?

                          That I could hear a dog whistle or that coil whine irritated me so I put them outside.

                          They may have been within 20Hz to 20kHz range, I never measured their values. I claimed it wasn't super powers to hear above 20kHz, that poster was being condescending and you are claiming I'm talking BS.

                          Did you read the report? 24kHz didn't require such high dB to be heard, those dB values was for 28kHz.

                          So again, what claim of mine is BS?

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                          FabMan on 27/05/2019 - 04:53

                          @rygle: Yesterday I played a YouTube video claiming it was emitting frequencies up to 20kHz, using my TV sound system at normal movie watching volume, durimg the day with kids making noise I heard just passed the 18 kHz before it cut out.

                          Assuming the video was correct and my speakers could play such frequencies, I couldn't hear 20 kHz or above it. However I'm nearly 40 with years of night clubs behind me. Any chance that 20 years ago I could hear 20.1 kHz or higher? I think so. My last hearing test never gave me the values, Dr just said good.

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              Gusper on 26/05/2019 - 08:15

              +1

              @tromboc: I bet 4k is wasted on you as well.

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                tromboc on 26/05/2019 - 09:54

                +1

                @Gusper: @Gusper

                Screen resolution is only relevant when considering screen size and viewing distance. I'm more interested in panel quality, colour output, contrast… etc. These things are more likely to affect overall viewing enjoyment. For me on my lounge with my 50", 1080p is plenty fine for now.

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        Diji1 on 26/05/2019 - 03:16

        -2

        So with a (perfectly pressed) modern record you are basically getting the same audio quality as CD

        Vinyl is physically not capable of reproducing anything near CD quality.

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          tromboc on 26/05/2019 - 05:13

          @Diji1: Faithful audio reproduction =/= better listening experience for everyone.

          You may prefer higher dynamic and frequency range of CD's, but that doesn't necessarily render vinyl worse medium for anyone but yourself.

          People have their reasons.

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            [Deactivated] on 27/05/2019 - 13:21

            @tromboc: Fluoro-blue, if that is what these are, also quite something to behold and possibly one of those reasons. Might even momentarily quiet the ever-bee in Diji1's bonnet - if bee briefly let out on a mini-leash, for a look! :)

            Genial fellow, having a bit of fun.

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      johnno07 on 26/05/2019 - 17:51

      +3

      When vinyl was in boom back in the day the standards were higher i believe

      Not in Australia. Our manufacturing standards for vinyl have been generally quite low.

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    lesterfreamon on 26/05/2019 - 03:06

    +5

    I will chime in on this as somebody who has worked in hi-fi and AV. It's not so much a question of the quality of the pressing. The actual vinyl itself is of a high quality 180g etc, but most modern pressings, at the very least from the major labels, are treated with an anti-fungal coating which is transferred to your stylus if left untouched. This will reduce over time with repeated plays.

    You would ideally wash your new vinyl before your stylus makes contact to avoid issues mentioned above which can result in a poor playback quality. Mildly warm water and kitchen detergent does the trick nicely, making sure not to wet the label. Air dry or lightly pat down with a clean microfibre towel before playing.

    If you have never tried to wash your vinyl before, give a brand new record a spin, wash in the sink and play it again. Sounds noticeably less noisy.

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      bailbondsh on 26/05/2019 - 03:10

      Excellent advice.

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  furiousgeorge on 26/05/2019 - 08:55

  +1

  Borrow the whole series on CD from the library and listen to it in your car. Only drawback is , you never want to get out the car.

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  novicenow on 26/05/2019 - 10:05

  +1

  The FOTR vinyl was limited to 5,000 and now sells for almost 1,000 on the secondary market. Don’t know if people are actually buying it at this price though.

  TTT and ROTK were increased to 8,000 and seem to be freely available - their prices have even dropped since release.

  The Trilogy OST seems to be an unlimited run.

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    bailbondsh on 26/05/2019 - 10:16

    +1

    ugly black vinyl for OST :P

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      novicenow on 27/05/2019 - 11:55

      Haha! But it matches the cover art 😬

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  Noobist45 on 26/05/2019 - 11:38

  I thought (for a second) this was an audio book on vinyl.

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    bailbondsh on 26/05/2019 - 11:51

    i'd be up for that

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      Noobist45 on 26/05/2019 - 12:06

      Has it been done before?

      I mean an actual audiobook, not those kids read along ones. On a side note, I actually own 4 or 5 of those. The Hulk, fantastic four, Spiderman and some others. They came with a vinyl record single (small one).

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        bailbondsh on 26/05/2019 - 12:22

        +1

        I'm only guessing but I reckon it would have been a thing back in the day, but a niche