Deal is back if you are after the B8. Not the cheapest but still not bad
Original Coupon Deal
Great tv… UI is the best.
Can any VPN be installed on this to access non-AU Netflix?
Just set it up on your router
can you pls guide how to do that?
@kalakaar: Here's a starting guide.
@GoochTicklerrr: pretty helpful guide to just do anything…
You can always grab a NVIDIA shield, a lot of vpns have android apps, like nord.
If you have a laptop (or even a PC with wifi) you can just install the VPN on the PC or laptop.
Then set the laptop/PC up as a wifi hotspot, and connect your TV (or anything else that needs a VPN) to it using wifi.
This process is probably the easiest, but like someone said before you can setup a VPN on a router (or you can buy a modem with the firmware and VPN installed), and download everything using the VPN on the router.
The advantage of installing the VPN on the router is that it's a set and forget setup.
The disadvantage is that all your connections will always go through the VPN until you take it off the router.
So that for example browsing Australian content can be slower than browsing US content (since the VPN will route it through the US and then back again to Australis, while using compression which can slow it further).
Either way, if you want to (for example) use your mobile to control your TV or any smart home device for that matter, you will need to have them both connected to the same wifi network.
Which is not a problem with the VPN installed on the router, but it can be problematic if you use a PC/laptop and don't have everything on the same wifi network (because you will essentially have two wifi networks - one on the router, and another on your PC/laptop) and it's a pain to change network names and passwords depending if you want Australian or US IP address.
I found the PC/laptop route to be the easiest because I would just turn the PC/laptop on and turn on the VPN if I wanted to watch US Netflix, and the rest of the time I'd have the VPN off (or set to the closest server to me in Australia).
Page doesn't exist for your link :/
Works fine for me.
At this price it would be a criminal act to purchase an LED. Love my C8
Bought one yesterday - can't wait! One thing I've been tossing up is whether to get an Apple TV 4K. I've heard webOS is really good, so not sure whether I need one. Currently love my Apple TV, but if webOS can do all the streaming anyway I'm not sure I can justify it.
Wait till you get it. I have no need for a Chromecast on mine as I have Netflix/Stan/Plex/Youtube all with their own respective apps that work flawlessly but I can't comment on how it fares against the fruitbox.
Thanks mate. We use Kayo, but that doesn't support 4K anyway so my current Apple TV would do the job just the same I think. I'll see what I reckon when I get it!
The LG Web OS apps aren't that great, I coudln't get the audio right coming from Stan, also Foxtel…… Chromecast supports all plus has chromecast/smarthub features.
Weird - I've always been blown away by how stable all the apps are.
If you have Kayo you're going to need CC/ATv though - no native apps out yet but they are in development.
@Hinee: I've had nothing but issues, including poor picture quality, changed colours compared to what I get from chromecast, differences in audio output quality/formats. Either way if you don't have or want a chromecast they do their job okay for sure.
@OnlinePred: What model TV? I have the C8 which has the better processor so may be able to handle the software better but even on UHD Stan it's been flawless.
@Hinee: B8, same software though. I'm very picky though.For example, I actually tune my TV picture ;-)
@Hinee: Thought so. Luckily, my ATV 4 appears to have held its value well so I should be no more than $100 out of pocket for the upgrade to 4K once I’ve sold this one.
What was your issue with the audio?
@soundawake: Delays, wouldn't get 7.1 out of 7.1 shows.
For those who've bought them on the previous deals, is it well worth the cash?
Been toying with upgrading my ol' LCD LED 40 inch to an OLED and I keep seeing this one (and only this one) coming up around this price. The temptation is high, but so are my penny pinching sensibilities and some non-OLEDs that are cheaper seem to look pretty decent…
Do you want/need the best picture quality? For this price it's the best TV you can buy if you are happy to own an OLED - > need to be slightly aware of what you are viewing - mix it up etc.
I mean, it'd be nice. At least for my Netflix/Youtube-watching and PS4-playing. Pretty much the only three things I do with a TV. What would I need to be aware of with an OLED compared to something else? I turn my TV off if I'm not using it.
Don't talk .. just buy… this is the best tv at this price… I have 2 oleds …it's like going black.
Well put very simply, if you have a static image in your game like a HUD, and you play for 8 hours a day for a week or two, you will notice "burn in""burn out" etc etc. Same goes if you only watched letterbox movies for 8 hours a day for a week or two, then tried some 16:9 content you would notice "burn in""burn out". If you vary your content, like playing games for a few hours, play a movie, play some netflix, then you have nothing to worry about.
OLED will make all the above look infinitely better.
@OnlinePred: Hmm. I'm probably okay. I don't really game for more than 4 hour bursts and never really anything with noticeable static HUDs/even less for Netflix.
Still, sounds like something I'll be vaguely paranoid about!
@Selenium: It's worth being aware of, it's the only negative of having the best picture. My gaming has been so much more enjoyable on OLED, in dark scenes/games OLED blows LCD away, I played Days Gone half on LCD and then on my mates OLED - completely different visual.
@OnlinePred: how long does it take for burn in to occur for gaming
since they do have the HUD etc..
I think there is newer microLED tech that has the best feature of OLED ie excellent black, without the burn in issue.
Is OLED like plasma (also suffers burn issue)
and will eventually be discontinued once microLED TV becomes available for sale?
Also microLED would eventually be cheaper to make than OLED, so that should also increase their market share better..
Right now OLED is the best for picture quality but they are still expensive compared to LCD..
If microLED could be made much cheaper then OLED, then it could gain faster market share and eventually be like LCD TVs..
@pinkybrain: Microled could be great, it's at least 5 years away. At least. Until then OLED is the best we got.
@OnlinePred: How long does it take for burn in to occur if playing a game with a HUD?
As much as I want the OLED and it does look great with the better blacks
the big neg of burn in is a real concern for me…
If buying something, and I know that that tech has an inherent flaw, it makes it less desired to get it..
It's like buying the samsung phone with the exploding batteries issue in the previous gen,
if knew that phone has an inherent flaw, you would be wary to buy it..
I think once burn in occurs, there is no way to fix it right?
According to my search..Samsung already has a microLED model made/demo
but they need to fix some issues..
And there is speculation a microLED tv could start get released sometime in 2020 to 2022
The best thing about microLED is it has the brightness of LCD
with the ultra black of OLED..
So the best of both tech/world..
@pinkybrain: They also said it won't be ready for mass market for another 5 years at least, and that won't be cheap either. LCD TVs have inherent flaws where the backlight leds have a shorter life than the display. OLED took well over 6 years to become affordable and in a big screen size.
iPhones and Samsung's have OLED screens that can get burn in FYI. If you don't run static logos like leaving it on ABC for 8 hrs everyday for a few months, then you will be fine.
Also once it was found the note 7 had potential to explode (only a few actually did), it was taken off the shelf and you couldn't buy it, very different comparison.
LCDs flaw is the high power use, poor low light handling, can't do blacks.
@OnlinePred: The point of the note 7 was to say if i knew of a flaw
i would be wary to buy it..
same with oled with burn in..so they are similar in that regards..
I think the flaws for LCD isn't as bad as getting a burn in that affects the display forever..
so it is not as bad as you listed it..
high power use - how much higher is it really and would it be noticed much in the bills?
also there are power saving modes that reduced the back light etc.. and auto power/dim etc..
so it isn't that bad.
poor low light handling - not sure what that is about.
can't do blacks - well it can do black just not as good as a OLED, due to the backlight..
it isn't as bad if there was no comparison OLED to look at to see the difference..
With OLED, once you get burn in,
that expensive TV you paid for now has the ugly reminder permanently burnt on the screen
and will be extremely annoying to see that the beautiful display is now ruined..
I think that would be a bigger disappointment than any of those other flaws you listed for LCD TV.
@pinkybrain: No, it can't do black. Physically impossible unless the whole screen is black. Even then not really black
All my LCDs have had the permanent ugly reminder of them being broken with bright patches on black screens.
Power saving modes reduce brightness so no benefit of having LCD over OLED at all.
For me I watch many movies and tv shows, there are way more negatives to an LCD than OLED for this. Also ghosting for games on LCD sucks.
Anyway all good if you don't want to get them, they are better for everything except static images displayed for long periods. I notice how bad LCDs are all the time when there is a very dark scene. So it really depends if you actually value picture quality or not.
It seems you don't so LCD suits you much better with the benefit of not worrying about burn in
@OnlinePred: LOL, I never said I don't value Picture Quality…
Maybe you didn't fully understood what I've have been saying..
I do think the OLED has the best picture quality from what I seen in the store and online
but the burn in issue has been a major concern that has stopped me from getting one so far..
As I said, I hate the thought of if I was to put down $1500 to $2000+ dollars for a TV
only to get it ruined with a permanent burn in.
And I know that this is a big flaw of OLED..so makes it even harder to buy it.
If I didn't knew then I would just buy based on picture quality..
but I also want my purchase to not be wasted money and it lasting at least 7 years or more.
After reading about the microLED and how it has the same benefit of OLED without the the drawbacks of burn in issue..
that is what has got me interested..
though that is still years away from being released..
@pinkybrain: The risk of burn in for late model OLEDs is low. Just don't go playing games with HUD's for 8 hours a day for weeks on end and you will be fine. Even if you did run into burn in, we have very strong consumer laws in Australia and I am sure you could argue a case for replacement. I know a few people have done that with early model OLED's. It is a significant issue and would hate for it to happen to anyone, but I don't think the risk is significant and wouldn't let it put you off purchasing as the picture quality and overall experience is way ahead of LED.
@pinkybrain: I hate the thought of putting down $1500-$2000 and getting a backlit LCD TV, opening it up to find massive backlight bleed, Ruining all movie experiences for me.
@pinkybrain: I've had my 2nd gen OLED since 2014 and was (ab)using it for 90% gaming, with hundreds of hours on same game (Overwatch).
After a couple years I started to get IR of the Overwatch HUD. Oops. Stopped gaming on it for a few weeks and IR went away.
The B8 is an 8th gen OLED and much more resilient. You'd have to really abuse it to get permanent burn-in.
@Ryballs: how many hours did it take to cause burn in for your previous OLED,
and what was the model?
how many hours would it take for B8 to get burn in if you gaming etc?
@pinkybrain: 55EC930T. It never got any burn-in. As it went away, it's called Image Retention.
Few hundred hours to get noticeable IR. Which is irrelevant to the B8 as it's much more resilient.
It took rtings 9000 hours of FIFA 18 to get burn-in on a C7.
@pinkybrain: My old man got burn in on the channel nine logo. He had it for 3 months, ran channel 9 8 hours every day for the dog. Took almost 3 months of 8hrs a day 7 days a week use of the one channel. My TV is still new, my mates is going on 1.5 years with no sign of burn in (I would notice as I am very picky).
@Ryballs: So much this, had my B8 for a year, thrashed the crap out of it, and had no issues.
@OnlinePred: Just so people are aware, "mixing up your content" or static content alternated with other things does nothing to prevent burn in. The mechanics of burn in on plasma and OLED are completely different. The mechanics of temporary image retention though are similar (residual current).
OLED wear is due to cumulative current (light output*time); 8 hours of constant logo display is equivalent to 4 bursts of 2 hours.
The OLED compensation algorithm used is based upon patents by a company called IGNIS which allows for a per-pixel capacitance detection which boosts individual pixel voltages to retain the same light output at the same current as the screen wears. Essentially this "brightness overhead" and improvements in the aperture ratio of the pixels from 2016 to 2018 means that the cumulative hours to LT95 (5% brightness loss) is above 4000-5000 hours on 2018 TVs.
Outside of constant logo display for many hours each day at high brightness, burn in is not an issue for most consumers now.
2016 models were 400-500 hours to burn in (check the first rtings tests). This generation gave the whole product a bad name.
@Tommo53: Still possible though as I have seen haha. My old man's was a B8. Most people crank it up to full brightness too so more likely.
@OnlinePred: Yes wouldn't be my first choice as a display to leave on all day on the same channel for the dog.
@Tommo53: yep lol. He's learnt an expensive lesson.
@OnlinePred: LG will most likely replace the display under warranty if you want. They are doing so for most cases coming up globally now.
Check the 6 series thread on WP. New screen or refunds.
@Tommo53: how long is LG warranty?
and what about out of warranty..
how many years you got under ACL?
and how likely successful would people be to claim ACL?
@OnlinePred: wait..so your old man's B8 (same model as this) also got burn in?
was he just leaving it on one channel all day?
@pinkybrain: Yea up to 8 hours a day, 7 days a week on the same channel. Took about 3 months. Yep B8 55". It's the only OLED tv I have seen with burn in.
I bought the 65" a week ago. Replaced a 60" LED I've been using for a few years.
I'll be honest. It's very nice. But I feel like I paid a price premium. It's not THAT much better than the old TV, which was 1080p and had visible issues with the screen (only visible in tracking shots though).
Yes it's a beautiful TV but for what it cost, it's not a quantum leap from what came before. If money is an issue I'd buy something else. I'd only get OLED at this point if you demand the best and price isn't an object.
The pure blacks are incredible though.
Thanks for the input! I'll need to go have another look at the offerings in person methinks.
I guess this depends on how much you paid for it. I think this TV would represent great value at around $2,500.
I'm a big plasma fan from years back so easily irritated by my current LED's blacks, which more more gray than black. Having said that, I did only pay $719 for that 55" 1080p Sony factory second less than 2 years ago.
I picked the 65 up for 2386 last week. Coming from a 45 lcd thats 10 years old …tv is frrkn awsome. Blacks in shows like stranger things are stunning
@bugman: That's the same price as the pricing error from a few month back. How did you manage that? I would so jump on that…
I went 65" Samsung LCD 1080 to 65" LG OLED and feel you can't compare at all. Especially running 4k content. Even just playing a Bluray like planet Earth is incredible on OLED. I'm watching movies ask over again just to see what they look like and how much better they look
thanks for the honest review
what was the model of your 60" LED TV?
how much you paid for this 65 inch one?
So other than the better blacks, the picture quality is not as big as jump from your 60" LED TV?
$2400 price match at JB for b8 65".
My old LCD was 2 years old Samsung series 6, the backlight LED's started going, I didn't pay much for it so I just upgraded.
Well the contrast, colours, accuracy are all huge jumps for me. I tune my TV's using a bluray tuning disc, so using the same tuning source, the picture is entirely different, I can actually see dark scenes (GOT Night battle episode I'm looking at you!). Also skin details and tones are handled so much nicer, and while watching movements in dark scenes there is far less blur compared to my old LCD. If you are picky, then you will notice a huge jump, especially movies. I put on Gravity bluray just as a test for the new TV, I ended up watching the whole thing because it looked incredible.
@OnlinePred: What is the bluray tuning disc you speak of? Cheers
@Tigersuits: No clue lol, my mate gave it to me a while back. He made it for me. I think he ripped it from a dvd tuning disc. Just displays a bunch of different screens with instructions on what to achieve, and what setting to change.
Quick google: https://www.audioholics.com/home-theater-calibration/hdtv-ca...
No idea if it's any good
@OnlinePred: Thank you for the valuable info in this thread.
$2400 price match at JB for b8 65".
Just curious, what exactly did you price match it against? I'm not able to find this price anywhere in the country.
@elektron: Just looked at my credit card haha, my bad, it was $2500 price matched from Good Guys and rounded down.
@OnlinePred: That's still a few hundred dollars cheaper than any advertised price out there… How did you do it?
This one seems to be the one I used. Walked in and showed my phone, they said they can match, I asked if they could beat it, they took $45 off.
@OnlinePred: Awesoeme, thanks!
no B28, NFC or SD855
Before I jump on this, do we think that there are going to be a bunch of TV deals pop up over the next week as tax refunds start coming in?
Is there a noticeable difference between this model and the c9?
I guess the quality justifies the higher cost but whenever I go into the store TV showrooms I can barely see the difference
It's basically the same panel… you would not noticed any difference.
120hz, HDMI 2.1, faster CPU
They are both 120Hz. Only difference is faster CPU and HDMI 2.1
4k 120hz needed HDMI 2.1 bandwidth, so I guess that is the only diff.
And variable refresh rate for gaming?
The B8 is not 120Hz.
@Diji1: It is:
But doesn’t support HDMI 2.1
@Amer: Stop giving out false information, it is not a 4K 120Hz TV according to your own link. It is not remotely close to being "the same" as you stated.
@Diji1: I think you need to educate yourself about the difference of refresh rate and resolution.
LG or Panasonic OLED? Similar price, never owned an LG
panasonic use LG OLED panels, so I'd just get whatever is cheaper. LG has better OS and apps though I think. I have the B8 and love it.
Don't forget the remote
LG is best for gaming because of lowest latency.
I got the panasonic FZ950 a week ago and absolutely love it.
I wouldn't buy LG as I used to work in the TV/AV industry years ago and LG had horrendous quality. Obviously they've improved but I've owned panasonic for 20 years and not one out of about 7 I've had have failed. Consensus seems to be panasonic picture quality is better but LG is cheaper and the UI is better? TBH the panasonic UI has been great for me using it for Netflix/Plex, haven't even used my chromecast the UI is that good and responsive
I have both oleds.. fz and b8…b8 is better because the os is better. Pq… you really wouldn't know the diff.
Panasonic looks better out of the box. If you know how to calibrate a TV then get the LG if cheaper. If not the Panasonic is better. The sound sucks on the Panasonic without the sound bar. Never tried the speakers for any length of time on the LG.
Sounds is about the same on both.. if I have top choose…lg is prob better. I use sound bar on 1 and proper amp speakers in the other. Standard speaker is very average.
Bought this TV about 6 months ago near this price point, great TV, great UI, and an AWESOME remote.
this tv paired with shield tv is amazing
Glad i took the plunge, loving the TV, interface is really good, I'm looking for a reason to plug back in the 4K apple tv. only issue I have is changing volume of my Edifier speakers. Previous TV only worked with 3.5mm jack to RCA, worked perfectly changing volume of speakers using TV remote. LG OLED doesnt seem to have a headphone port so currently using optical cable. Having to change speaker volume using Edifier remote is a tiny bit annoying instead of using the TV remote. I've tried the smart sharing setup thing but Edifier isnt on the list. Brand name soundbars have this function
Quite a few deals on the 55" as of late but no deals for the 65" in ages. What's up with that?
They're probably thinking "as long as the 55" is being sold, we'll hold off on the 65"".
As an owner of the 65" C8, i suggest everyone buy an LG OLED and never look back!
C8 not b8
I know the deal is for a B8. I managed to snag a C8 last year, incredible tv and it would be pretty hard to find one of those in stock this year for the price I got it for :)
i approval of the central stand
Wish I could get this in WA
Dat shipping estimate. You reckon this is a backorder?
no 65" deals @ $2k
Decisions… jump on this now or hold out for the 65”…
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