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  • vietbargain on 12/08/2019 - 08:53
    +78

    I'd say waze is a better option

      • michaelTito on 12/08/2019 - 09:38
        +11

        why should we stick to the speed limit when we can post about the fine on ozbargain?

        • darshu on 12/08/2019 - 09:42
          +36

          People always complain. If you go above the speed limit you are entitled to a fine (if you get caught). My basic rule is that, I am just curious why you all think that speeding above the speed limit is ok but getting fine is bad?

          • Munki on 12/08/2019 - 09:47
            +36

            @darshu: Because nanny state. Can't nobody tell me what to do. I'm an adult. I don't want to be a part of the system. Happy birthday to the ground!

            • darshu on 12/08/2019 - 09:51
              +27

              @Munki: I agree with you. Im not opposed to such apps, I was bit curious about the behaviour of the OZBargainers. And the people who negged my comment, Have you ever lost a close friend, family member or a loved one due to an overspeeding drive or by an overspeeding driver?

              • michaelTito on 12/08/2019 - 09:52
                +5

                @darshu: Have you ever heard of the saying, it’s ok until it’s your family then it’s not ok?

              • Tacooo on 12/08/2019 - 10:29
                +3

                @darshu: I would think drink driving is a bigger problem than someone driving 10-20KM/h over.

              • LennyT on 12/08/2019 - 11:33
                +25

                @darshu: Personally I do not think speeding is the problem. The skills of the drivers is the problem. The shitty test that what the gov is called drivers test? Its a joke.

                • gimme on 12/08/2019 - 14:43
                  +8

                  @LennyT: Problem is almost everyone believes they're good drivers. Even those on Ozbargain

                  • LennyT on 12/08/2019 - 16:45
                    +4

                    @gimme: Does it matter if they think they're a good driver? If we have a robust system, they wouldn't have gotten a license to begin with and would not have the chance to even think that they're one.

                    • gimme on 12/08/2019 - 17:13
                      +2

                      @LennyT: There's different levels of good. Even if you get a license under a robust system it doesn't mean you have the ability to think say 5+ steps ahead which in my books is a good driver beyond the obvious motor skills etc.

                      • LennyT on 13/08/2019 - 08:36
                        +2

                        @gimme: Yes ofcourse. But back to my point being speed isn't the 'killer'. It is one of the reasons/causes of an accident but I do not think that it is the leading or primary factor and people shouldn't be ramming that into everyone's head that it the cause. I'm not condoning speeding btw. I'm just stating my opinion that the way that the gov is approaching this is wrong (to me).

                        • gimme on 13/08/2019 - 08:45
                          +5

                          @LennyT: Laws are for the lowest common denominator and whatever can be easily measured and enforced. I know poor drivers are far more dangerous within the limits of the law than a good driver going a few kms over but sadly the latter is easily enforceable and therefore the bigger target

                          • LennyT on 13/08/2019 - 11:04

                            @gimme: So going the easy way which doesn't change anything for generations to come is the best way for our country and government? and I doubt changing driving test isn't that much more complicated. Plenty of countries having more robust tests that can be used.

                            • gimme on 13/08/2019 - 11:05

                              @LennyT: I'm not disagreeing with you. All for making driving requirements tougher. Just don't expect the enforcement criteria to change.. for the better anyway. Most likely will regress further.

                              • LennyT on 13/08/2019 - 11:56

                                @gimme: Definitely. which is sort of my rant. I'm sure a portion of it is revenue driven as well.

            • Nalar on 12/08/2019 - 10:32
              +6

              @Munki: You can't buy me hotdog man!

            • eleon00 on 12/08/2019 - 13:30
              +8

              @Munki: There's this thing called physics. Based on the average reaction time of drivers, there's only so much time you have before you hit something you don't anticipate depending on how fast you're going. So speed limits (at least in Victoria) are based on safe breaking times.

          • michaelTito on 12/08/2019 - 09:49

            @darshu: To be honest with you man, I don’t have an answer to that. I also speed when I drive but I’m just lucky that’s I havnt been caught yet touch wood. I’m pretty sure one day I’ll get caught and I will come to ozbargain and rant about it like everyone else. See you guys soon in the forum section.

          • PukeyLuke on 12/08/2019 - 10:33
            -2

            @darshu: @darshu It's good for society as it saves lives etc, but it's bad for me I want to drive fast but not pay for it, simple!!

          • futureminime on 12/08/2019 - 11:05
            +18

            @darshu: |speeding above the speed limit is ok but getting fine is bad?

            I don't think that's the stance. I think it is that speeding is bad but getting a fine doesn't always represent a safer outcome, or an outcome that fits the situation.

            Speeding includes going 1km/hr over the limit at the bottom of a hill (111km/hr in a 110km/hr zone). By the letter of the law you can get fined for that. It is a speed limit, not a speed target. At least in NSW the police have a decent amount of flexibility in enforcement to try to provide a safer outcome. I would feel hard done by getting a multi-hundred dollar fine for going 2km over.

            I think there is also the disconnection between the risk (crashing, hitting something) with the action (speeding) as people see other people speeding all the time and not getting punished, so feel hard done by when they get caught.

            An article from NRMA on the notion some drivers have a of a tolerance.
            https://www.mynrma.com.au/cars-and-driving/driver-training-a…

            If there was more of a focus on that kids, animals and other drivers can make mistakes and that break distance is directly related to speed then maybe people would speed less. I would love for break testing to be part of schooling or the licencing process. I remember when they did the advertising around going from 60km/hr to 50km/hr in residential areas in NSW and showed the decrease in stopping distance - similar to stopping distance for school zones 40km/hr).

            I think you really need to see the car they are driving fail to stop at 60km/hr but stop at 40km/hr to get the message across.

          • Diji1 on 12/08/2019 - 12:29
            -6

            @darshu:

            you are entitled to a fine

            Fines should be means tested so that the wealthy are punished according to their means.

            • Tacooo on 12/08/2019 - 13:40

              @Diji1: Okay but how about you don't detract from the conversation and actually add something useful to it?

          • dcep on 16/08/2019 - 14:25

            @darshu: smoking is ok, cancer is bad

            coal power is ok, pollution is bad

            sugar is ok, obesity is bad

            drink is ok, drive is bad

            raw sex is ok, abortion is bad

        • customundo on 12/08/2019 - 14:22
          +3

          Accidents are caused by bad drivers, not by going over the speed limit within reason and taking into consideration the condition of the driver and driving conditions.

          I understand the need for restrictions in school and residential areas but I believe you should be able to drive over the speed limit in 60-100km/h zones.

          There should also be common sense in the system eg. Someone who drives below the limit in the fast lane should be fined and given equal demerit points as would someone who goes over the speed limit where dangerous and unpredictable driving conditions are created as a result of such actions

        • Jayymes on 12/08/2019 - 14:28

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia_V_tcOFNY

          Speed camera social experiment was done, they have 10% built in before flash will go off.

        • [Deactivated] on 13/08/2019 - 03:51
          +1

          why should we stick to the speed limit when we can post about the fine on ozbargain?

          If you come off second best in a collision involving speeding, you likely will not get a chance to post about it .

        • the Unforgiven on 13/08/2019 - 13:16
          -2

          The speed limit was set in what decade?

          Cars have gotten much safer since speed limits were set.

          We can drive at the speed limit and beyond easily in modern cars.

          The roads are so boring and if you do not keep the speed high, one might fall asleep (not good) if you do not concentrate on what you are doing; that keeps me wide awake and alert. It does not mean I go over the limit by 30 or more kilometres, you have to drive to the road conditions.

          • Bunsen on 14/08/2019 - 19:18
            +3

            @the Unforgiven:

            Cars have gotten much safer since speed limits were set.

            Agreed…

            BUT - Drivers are much worse now…

      • wyrmy on 12/08/2019 - 11:47
        +19

        Because I've travelled and driven a large part of the world and Victoria/AUD is one of the most militant.
        I say this without bias as someone who had 1 minor fine (temp speed drop zone) in 300k of driving. Takes a lot of wasted focus just eyeying the speed to avoid going over 3-5km

        Btw the road fatality rate has been increasing recently, not decreasing. Seems like the main gains to this point were in better car safety tech and not agressive speed fines.

        • swanny246 on 12/08/2019 - 15:45
          +2

          Not to mention the speed limit can change so many times in such a small stretch that if you happen to miss one sign, you can be screwed over if there happens to be a radar in that small stretch.

          Pacific Mwy in QLD is a joke at the moment with the constant jumping between 80 and 100. I feel like it causes more issues than it prevents.

      • Diji1 on 12/08/2019 - 12:27
        +7

        Why cant we stick to the speed limit?

        It's a revenue raising exercise.

        There is a much cheaper and effective way to enforce the speed limit: regulation that forces speed limiters (which can be disabled).

        Then simply remove the license of anyone caught speeding after they chose to disable the speed limiter and place other road users at higher risk.

        • [Deactivated] on 13/08/2019 - 03:53

          It's a revenue raising exercise.

          They cannot raise revenue from you if you stay under or at the speed limit though 🤔

      • djtranny on 12/08/2019 - 12:41
        +11

        Because I am an experienced adult and I have proven myself capable of driving to my own abilities. Depending on the vehicle driven, weather, conditions, visibility, area, pedestrians and other cars on the road, sometimes this means driving over the speed limit and sometimes it means driving under the speed limit. The fact is, there is not always an in depth analysis of every road in our country. In some cases, speed limits have been changed from 70 to 60 in the past, simply because of a blanket rule change that made no sense. The rule was cancelled but signs were already changed and it was too costly to change the speed limits back to 70 so they remained at 60. Is it safe for me to drive 70 in these 60 zones that are technically still meant to be 70? Well, yes it is. There are also plenty of roads around the country, where you look at the speed limit and wonder what the hell they were thinking when they set the limit (Sometimes too high, sometimes too low) and they will only get changed when accidents start happening, they will also rarely get changed up. Of course, we have to set specific limits because we have too many idiots. Ideally, everyone should be sensible enough to know there own car and driving ability and drive at a speed that is safe for them. Unfortunately, that's not the case for most people so there are limits set and they are not always reasonable.

      • sauce2k on 12/08/2019 - 13:30

        …relax Darshu lol

      • Blitzfx on 12/08/2019 - 14:45
        +6

        I like how hypocritical everyone is on here.
        It's not outlandish to ask people to stick to the speed limit, yet you get negged.
        But when someone makes a forum post complaining about how to get out of a speeding fine, everyone tells the OP to eat shit and pay the dam fine for speeding.

        • AncientWisdom on 12/08/2019 - 15:54
          +1

          That's not hypocritical. I believe most "pro speeding" commenters would just pay the fine if they got one. You can either drive within the speed limit or accept possible consequences if deciding not to. By the way, "possible consequences" might be much worse than a speeding fine if you end up getting involved in an accident while speeding.

          • Blitzfx on 12/08/2019 - 16:37
            +1

            @AncientWisdom: The comments I've read were along the lines of "You shouldn't be speeding in the first place", but here we are seeing pro-speeding comments.

            Everyone: "You shouldn't be speeding in the first place"
            Also every one: "I should speed wherever I want, too strict blah blah, nanny state blah blah"

            • AncientWisdom on 13/08/2019 - 15:17
              +1

              @Blitzfx: Sure, but are those the same people? You can't just create a fictional "OzBargain community" entity and expect it to be cohesive IMO…

      • [Deactivated] on 12/08/2019 - 20:42

        He got a valid point that I guess everyone is dancing around but no one has an answer to it.

      • Fastfoodoffers on 15/08/2019 - 20:22

        AGREEDED

    • jaimex2 on 12/08/2019 - 11:25

      Yep. Or TomTom Speed Cameras app overlayed over Google Maps.

  • Darkii on 12/08/2019 - 09:00
    +18

    I think this feature is built into Google Maps now. I was driving and it was warning me of mobile speed cameras and asking me to verify if it was still there

    • YellowKnight on 12/08/2019 - 09:03
      +1

      How popular and accurate is Waze in Australia? I think previously I found that Google Maps was better.

      • Associatedwreckedandjealous @ socialsmap.com on 12/08/2019 - 09:07
        +18

        I used it for a trip from newcastle to melbourne and back at easter time.

        every cop on the side of the road was marked.
        in fact, I had a police car in front of me (200m in front of me) for about 5 kms, and when he pulled over, I went to mark it, and someone else did before I did

        • knobbs on 12/08/2019 - 09:15
          +1

          Google maps or Waze?

          • worthy1 on 12/08/2019 - 09:32
            +5

            @knobbs: Waze is owned by Google. Waze is really good on major highways and cities with a lot of users. Not so much community reporting in smaller areas. The GPS is better then my fords built in Sync 2 and our Santa fe's maps.

            Definitely saved me a few times on the trip to sydney.

            • mixo on 12/08/2019 - 09:41
              +1

              @worthy1: I find waze does have most speed traps marked, but the only issue i have with it, is that it warns you too late, so if you are doing a little more than the posted limit the cops would have pinged you already.

              This was last year not sure if they have fixed it yet.

              • worthy1 on 12/08/2019 - 10:07

                @mixo: Yeh i can imagine in city driving where you cant glance at it as much that would be a problem. Its been good to me on highways where i do have the luxury of being able to look at it more. I wonder if there is a distance setting for notifications?

              • Marty131 on 12/08/2019 - 13:46
                +2

                @mixo: Agree with this - But I think the issue is that whoever originally marked the location, marked it 100m later (this is what I have found). The warning is usually spot on otherwise.

                • aoeueoa on 12/08/2019 - 21:36
                  +2

                  @Marty131: I guess the benefit of google maps over that then is that GM will tell you well in advance i.e., at the start of the journey it shows all mobile speed cams on the trip.

      • ExtraSalt on 12/08/2019 - 09:30

        Both are user-influenced alerts so one technically you'd think isnt better than other…it was on Waze before GMaps though

      • GregMonarch on 12/08/2019 - 09:51

        They all have it really… I've used Sygic and it was warning constantly - even when cameras had been removed. (Better that than not reporting ones that are still there.)

        However this app seems to 'wake up' when you start driving (probably activated by the acceleratometer in your phone registering too fast to be walking speed) and it starts warning about speed cameras. i.e. How often do we turn GPS apps on when we know an area fairly well? We don't. This thing turns on and warns you itself. (I think.)

        • TEER3X on 12/08/2019 - 10:33
          +2

          I use Google maps every time I drive because I want to know what time I'll get to where I'm going and if there's a better way because of traffic, construction and/or a smash.

      • ChocolateTown on 12/08/2019 - 19:36
        +1

        Waze is friggin awesome. My 2018 i30 can put it up on the info unit via Apple CarPlay which is brilliant

    • Sapiens on 12/08/2019 - 09:06
      +1

      Agree, received alert for the first time yesterday. Driving north of Melbourne.

      • bennos on 12/08/2019 - 09:30
        -1

        Really, I have received them for months now

    • Tardvark on 12/08/2019 - 09:44

      Google maps is slowly integrating Waze.

    • TEER3X on 12/08/2019 - 09:50
      +2

      Google maps doesn't show fixed cameras though

    • Glittrfist on 12/08/2019 - 10:16
      +1

      Google maps I find to be highly unreliable when notifying me of police cars or speed traps. It does it when it feels like it, which is rare.

      Waze is exceptional. I can run it in the background if I need maps for directions and still receive waze notifications. It also notifies me of objects on the road and other hazards.

      ++ Recommended.

    • chriise on 12/08/2019 - 10:30

      Do I need to turn on some options in Google maps? I've never had any alerts on iOS.

      • Koipanda on 12/08/2019 - 19:09

        Same here on Android..

      • aoeueoa on 12/08/2019 - 21:37

        Don't think IOS has it yet.

        Android def does, update your app.

    • Averell on 12/08/2019 - 11:14

      @Darkii: Google Maps sometimes show the mobile speed cameras, but I haven't seen any fixed cameras yet (I am in VIC)

    • PenGuinMighty on 13/08/2019 - 09:24

      Waze was bought by Google a while back.

  • kmish on 12/08/2019 - 09:06
    +3

    Does this app integrate with Google maps? I'd want to know where the speed cameras are while i'm driving to locations I don't know very well.

    • brad1-8tsi on 12/08/2019 - 09:23
      +11

      Even people that try and stick to road rules make a mistake or get distracted. Apps like this serve as a reminder to check our speed.

      • mixo on 12/08/2019 - 09:46

        Correct , especially with ridiculous low thresh holds your labeled a hoon if you doing more than 5 kms over the posted limit.Let alone if you are overtaking a slow vehicle on a highway and you have to speed for a few secs to overtake and the cops ping you for it.

        I'm all for speed cameras to catch the idiots who do crazy speeds and for them to be used correctly and not to milk every cent out of motorists.

      • michaelTito on 12/08/2019 - 09:55
        +2

        Wait aren’t you suppose to constantly check your speed? Or have I been doing it wrong this whole time? Because I have been constantly check my speed and scanning the road when I drive.

        • brad1-8tsi on 12/08/2019 - 10:27

          @michaelTito

          Yes, most of us check our speed regularly and scan the road and the instruments, etc and in an ideal world none of us would get speeding tickets but occasionally our speed drifts up or down for a multitude of reasons. Speed own isn't a problem except for those behind us. Speed up in the wrong place and a ticket may ensue.

    • hugh on 12/08/2019 - 09:32
      +6

      As much as I admire your ability to display self control when driving your vehicle, there is also the manner of enforcement that I particularly object to, such as hidden cameras and other measures that treat the public like immature brats that are in need of trapping and deserve to be punished.
      Police presence and safety cameras are much more effective for public enforcement of road rules which pertain to more than just excess speed.
      Cars and Trucks that are not roadworthy or drivers under the influence of drugs/sleep deprived present a greater danger to the public than the general traffic's vehicular speed.

      Victoria in particular engages predominately in hidden speed cameras.

      Treat people like nice decent people and see how far our society can develop for the better.

      • mixo on 12/08/2019 - 09:38

        Victoria with its invisible police force.

        Every time i go into NSW you can see marked highway patrol everywhere.Thats all people need to make sure they are doing the right thing.

        now we would not want to kill the goose that laid the golden egg!

        • TEER3X on 12/08/2019 - 10:30
          +1

          Conspicuous police cars on highways slow traffic down because of rubbernecking

      • Marty131 on 12/08/2019 - 13:49

        If there were no hidden cameras, and only known, fixed cameras, wouldn't that mean one could speed, as long as they know there are no fixed cameras? I believe the threat / risk of a hidden camera is what keeps many drivers from speeding.

    • GregMonarch on 12/08/2019 - 09:59
      +4

      I stick to the road rules too. But fining people instead of dealing with real crime is so rampant, that after years it's become habit to hit the brakes in a cold sweat every time I see a cop. So it's an 80km/h road, a radar suddenly appears, I hit the brakes in a panic reflex. Then I check my speedo and realise I was doing about 70km/h because I'm now doing 60. THIS is why all this revenue raising has to end. I literally can't stop myself from hitting the brakes now - it's become an innate reflex I can't turn off thanks to their fine quotas. And I see plenty of other drivers doing exactly the same thing, which is dangerous to all of us. Everyone is so on edge worrying about fines, faulty radars reading high, etc. that it's made driving MORE dangerous, not less.

      • hazzad on 12/08/2019 - 10:48
        +2

        Glad im not the only one who thinks this. I spend a lot of time on the road for my job and always try to adhere to all road rules, speed limits, etc. But lets be honest, we are humans and we make a mistake every once in a while. There is a lot to keep your mind on when driving and its almost impossible to not miss a speed sign every once in a while, especially in some areas where speed zones can change every few k's. I never intentionally speed but im guilty of speeding simply because ive missed a speed sign. Thankfully ive never gotten done for it but i suspect it will happen at some point.

        My biggest gripe at the moment is construction zones. The amount of 40 and 60 k zones i drive through when the limit is usually 100 and there is no construction happening, be it after hours or weekends drives me nuts. I though labour was going to introduce a tools down speed limit law at last election. Did this ever happen?

        • GregMonarch on 12/08/2019 - 11:19
          +1

          Yep - the P plater still screams past doing 120 in a 90 zone, but everyone who missed a sign behind a passing semi has been trained by revenue-raising to slam their brakes down hard to slow down whenever a cop appears, even though they've habitually driven on or below the limit for two decades.

          So we're safer how? Oh, that's right - the P plater sometimes gets caught.

          That doesn't stop me nearly sailing into the rear of the old lady in the bowls hat with a busted brake globe who slams her brakes on due to those years of avoiding fine-zealous cops.

          That construction thing I hit a lot too… I was driving somewhere at night and the limt was 100 down to something like 20, with a flashing digital sign "SLOW DOWN"… and after driving at 20 for 1km or more, no worker, or witches hats, or anything in sight and the speed is back to 100.

          Places like Sydney amaze me the most… You can go there and they'll be ripping up some road… come back 3 years later - and they've hardly moved. Did they finish it and rip it up again!? Or just liked that piece of road so much they thought they'd move in permanently!?

        • brotherfranciz on 12/08/2019 - 18:29

          The amount of 40 and 60 k zones i drive through when the limit is usually 100 and there is no construction happening, be it after hours or weekends drives me nuts.

          This is a common misconception: the reason for the reduced speed limit is not just because of construction workers onsite, but also because of changed road conditions e.g. the emergency shoulder could be closed (even when workers have left for the day) so any car breakdowns on any lanes would cause a serious risk when traffic is going at 100kmph potentially smashing into a broken down car.

          Next time you drive through one of these stretches of road under construction, have a look around and take note of any changes to the road condition - it could be no line markings, or changed line markings in yellow where the original white markings are still visible, or road resurfacing works where the road is gravel, or the aforementioned closed emergency shoulder, etc. All of these changes in road condition could be dangerous if drivers are not paying attention or act carelessly, which is how vehicular accidents usually happen.

  • Tacooo on 12/08/2019 - 09:38
    +3

    Do people actually pay for this crap? VicPol have a map of every single camera in the state updated weekly as well as their types, certification documents and other stuff and it's all free. Then there's Waze which is also free and is updated in realtime using data from other members.

    This app is just crap.

    • GregMonarch on 12/08/2019 - 10:04

      It seems to turn itself on automatically when you start driving and then reminds you about radar traps. Good for those who don't turn GPS apps on in their local area, because - why would you - and/or when you drift too high in speed and/or forget about one.

      • cute as duck on 12/08/2019 - 10:11
        +2

        What a drain on battery if this thing is on all the time in the background

      • Tacooo on 12/08/2019 - 10:20

        So it has a function no one wants. Great for getting on a train or bus and losing a good chunk of your battery by the time you're finished.

        • GregMonarch on 12/08/2019 - 10:26

          LOL, ok.

        • Darron65 on 12/08/2019 - 13:29
          +1

          Heh, will be fun on the Pakenham train when it hits 110 between Hallam and Dandenong.

    • Zachary on 13/08/2019 - 01:41

      link? all of australia or just the vic state?

        • DJohn on 13/08/2019 - 09:33
          +1

          Thanks for the link, but this only gives you an approximate possible location, not the actual. It's not much help.
          Are you suggesting to study this spreadsheet every time I need to drive? I don't think this is practical.

          • Tacooo on 13/08/2019 - 09:36
            +1

            @DJohn: Yeah of course it does because it's published weekly and the cops can choose the exact location on the day. If you want a map of every single fixed camera location (the only real possibility) then you can check here. If you want live mobile camera locations (if reported) then use Waze.

            • DJohn on 13/08/2019 - 10:05

              @Tacooo: It says: "An up-to-date list of approved mobile camera locations is published here monthly." Doesn't matter much I guess.

              I'm more interested to know why you think this app is bad compared to Waze.

              • Tacooo on 13/08/2019 - 10:16
                +1

                @DJohn: Because they charge you a fee for a service that is completely free from multiple other sources without actually adding any convenience or usage to it.

  • Romper Stomper on 12/08/2019 - 09:48

    Which app tells the locations of red-light traffic cameras? It will be helpful for all the drivers to be more careful.

  • congo on 12/08/2019 - 09:50

    iOS?

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