How Much Does a 1 Person OzBargain Household Pay for Utilities?

DeafMutePretender on 25/09/2019 - 20:27

About how much does it cost per month to live a standard 2/3 bedroom house as a single OzBargainer? This is a tightarse conservative user so assume no heating or cooling, no leaving computer on for the whole day and night, turn off unneeded lights etc.

Water:
Gas:
Electricity:

I imagine the fixed (service/provision) fee would be a much larger percentage of the total cost (so reducing your usage to reduce costs is to a certain extent BS).

I couldn't find any stats on Google because the government doesn't care about non-family households/taxpayers.

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  • HighAndDry on 25/09/2019 - 20:28
    +1

    to live a standard 2/3 bedroom house as a single OzBargainer?

    Have you tried not living in a 2/3 bedroom house as a single person?

    Snark kinda aside, what's in the other bedrooms? Can you rent them out? That would more than cover your utilities.

    • DeafMutePretender on 25/09/2019 - 20:33
      +2

      what's in the other bedrooms? Can you rent them out? That would more than cover your utilities.

      That's off topic but we will assume there will be no other tenants (so assume no BS from tenants).

  • Some Human on 25/09/2019 - 20:30

    <$40 quarter
    <$70 2 mths
    <$55 1 mth

    • DeafMutePretender on 25/09/2019 - 20:34

      Water sounds reasonable (only $10 a month). Are those your bills or did you get the stats from somewhere?

      • ssquid on 25/09/2019 - 20:55
        +3

        That's reasonable if you're renting/paying for usage only. My water would cost more than that even if I left the main tap turned off.

      • Some Human on 25/09/2019 - 22:25

        My average bills when I lived by myself for a year. Yes, renting.

        • ihbh on 26/09/2019 - 10:43

          When renting you only pay for water usage.

  • buckster on 25/09/2019 - 20:38
    +1

    There was a forum post a while back where someone was basically stealing their neighbours electricity, so it depends on whether you sink to those lows or not.

    • FireRunner on 25/09/2019 - 21:15
      +12

      The public BBQ guy. Best post ever

      • peterpeterpumpkin on 25/09/2019 - 21:27
        +1

        I'v always wondered at what point the mods consider a post trolling or prone to trolling before shutting them down. If the OP keeps replying would the fun actually continue?

        I think the idea in shutting them down is to immortalise them before someone ruins the joke :)

  • Dealneo on 25/09/2019 - 20:40

    I pay about 200 a month for a 2 bedroom apartment- single

  • [Deactivated] on 25/09/2019 - 21:16
    +1

    It works out cheaper if you have an SO and they pay half the bills :P To answer your question, no idea. I went from living with parents->grandparents->on-campus accommodation->shared house->married life.

  • Godric on 25/09/2019 - 21:35
    +2

    Too much

  • nodeahs on 26/09/2019 - 07:29

    I don’t pay for usage as it’s included in my rent. But similar situation, 2 bedroom single occupant. Would be interesting to know how much it costs.

  • Allan on 26/09/2019 - 07:45

    2 bedroom apartment

    Electricity use: 6kw/day ($200-250/qtr, $0.90/day supply)
    Water: this is the crap one - shared between all $175/qtr

    I expect average single to be roughly 6-8kw/day.

    My best was 5kw/day - no heating/cooling. Hot water tank uses a lot of electricity! Also fridge and stove too.

  • skid on 26/09/2019 - 11:54

    Per month (Supply + usage)
    Water: 57 + 4 = 61
    Gas: 17 + 5 = 22
    Elec: 21 + 29 = 50

    Sydney 3BR, Continuous Gas Hot Water, AC heating, Rain water tank for the garden, No solar panels, Origin Energy

    • DeafMutePretender on 27/09/2019 - 00:13

      At that rate, might as well enjoy hot 1 hour showers!

  • RockyRaccoon on 26/09/2019 - 13:40

    I couldn't find any stats on Google because the government doesn't care about non-family households/taxpayers.

    Ah yes another conspiracy at foot here….

    • DeafMutePretender on 27/09/2019 - 00:09
      +1

      It's self evident. Couples, families with children etc get tax breaks, tax benefits and other financial incentives. Baby bonus anyone? Singles get absolutely nothing.

      • [Deactivated] on 27/09/2019 - 14:12

        Some of us are raising the next generation of tax-payers …only fair that we should get some incentives to do so. Trust me , it's bloody hard work.

        Disclaimer: Our family gets little-to-no incentives as we are in a higher tax bracket.

        • DeafMutePretender on 27/09/2019 - 22:12
          -1

          Fair enough if that is your situation.

          At the same time, the Government is for some reason funding via welfare low-skill immigrants with high birth rates and poor parenting skills and thus, the cycle of poverty continues. You mention that parenting is "bloody hard work" - how many children do you have? 1, 2? A maximum of 3? You should have 10 children, like the new "Australians"

          Feels like the Gummint is working against us at every step for some nebulous reason.

          • [Deactivated] on 27/09/2019 - 22:15

            @DeafMutePretender: Who are these "low-skill immigrants"? Do you mean international students? Refugees?

            For what it's worth, I've found that international students, as a rule, are hard-workers and driven to succeed. As for refugees, they deserve compassion for everything they've been through. My wife and I are more than happy to pay our fair share of tax to provide welfare assistance for those who need it.

            high birth rates and poor parenting skills

            Can anyone beat our native bogans at that game?

            • DeafMutePretender on 03/10/2019 - 23:12
              -2

              @[Deactivated]:

              Who are these "low-skill immigrants"? Do you mean international students? Refugees?

              Refugees from 3rd world countries. While Westerners continue to delay and delay marriage and procreation because it "costs too much to have children", the 3rd worlders are popping out children like no tomorrow. And they get paid for it via welfare and public housing.

              For what it's worth, I've found that international students, as a rule, are hard-workers and driven to succeed.

              Sure. If you ignore the cheating and plagiarism:

              Why Chinese international students cheat - MacroBusiness

              https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/07/chinese-internation…

              And going to extreme lengths to retain their student visa:

              Uni Student Loses Court Battle over Assignment on Dog Breeds

              https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/408690

              And the piss-poor English skills result in dissatisfaction in group assignments:

              chinese group assignment site:forums.whirlpool.net.au

              https://www.google.com/search?q=chinese+group+assignment+whi…

              As for refugees, they deserve compassion for everything they've been through. My wife and I are more than happy to pay our fair share of tax to provide welfare assistance for those who need it.

              They deserve compassion but they're not entitled to our tax dollars, or at least not mine. I'd rather my tax dollars to go to Australians and not to the "new Australians".

              Can anyone beat our native bogans at that game?

              First of all, bogans is racist.

              As for who can beat the Australian lower class at baby-making, I couldn't immediately find Australian stats so the next best thing I could get is:

              World Population Review - Total Fertility Rate 2019
              http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/total-fertility-r…

              In general, I would rank the tiers as follows (best at the game to worst):

              1) Blacks (note South Sudan which ranks at 18th and we took a lot in in recent years)
              2) Muslims
              3) Pacific Islanders
              4) Hispanics
              5) South East Asians
              6) Whites
              7) Asians

              I would place "bogans" at about the same level as pacific islanders or hispanics.

              • [Deactivated] on 03/10/2019 - 23:44

                @DeafMutePretender: So you're saying let's deter those who are producing the next generation of tax-payers from doing so and let's raise the bar so high that the 3rd Australian export take their $32 billion elsewhere, in favor of singles who choose not to have kids nor are contributing much to the economy ? Did I get that right?

                Ps: The term "bogan" does not refer to a race. Although, I'm happy to apologise if I've offended anyone by my use of that word as a short-hand to refer to a sub-class of the Australian society.

                • DeafMutePretender on 05/10/2019 - 22:49
                  -3

                  @[Deactivated]:

                  So you're saying

                  One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rE03PGQfA

                  let's deter those who are producing the next generation of tax-payers from doing so and let's raise the bar so high that the 3rd Australian export take their $32 billion elsewhere, in favor of singles who choose not to have kids nor are contributing much to the economy ? Did I get that right?

                  Two: That is a strawman argument.
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

                  Three: You just described a pyramid scheme (something everybody should oppose).

                  The term "bogan" does not refer to a race. Although, I'm happy to apologise if I've offended anyone by my use of that word as a short-hand to refer to a sub-class of the Australian society.

                  Four: You just unwittingly behaved like a white supremac1st. Take from it what you will. See below example:

                  Right-wing white man: I oppose Islam.
                  Progressive liberal: That's rac1st.
                  Right-wing white man: The term "Islam" does not refer to a race.
                  Progressive liberal: You're still rac1st.

                  Five: Although technically bogan (an uncultured, crass, lower-caste and anti-social person) does not refer to a race, in popular usage, it refers to white Australians 99% of the time. So it can be considered disingenuous to claim that you're referring to bogans of all races.

                  In any case, rac1sm against anyone, white or not, is unacceptable.

                  Six: Nice chatting with you. This conversation is over.

      • ihbh on 03/10/2019 - 14:19

        Singles get absolutely nothing.

        Singles get more time. :)

        • DeafMutePretender on 07/10/2019 - 22:52

          And time is money.

          Still though, the government offer financial incentives for being single. The single worst thing you can do to worsen climate change is to bring another human into the world. The government and the authorities, if they care about global warming (which they don't) should be thanking us and giving us money for not procreating.

          • ihbh on 07/10/2019 - 23:07

            @DeafMutePretender: You'll reach a stage in life where money is not really that important.

            No matter how much attention (time) my two "puppy dogs" need daily, I wouldn't trade it for anything. Having said that, I'm eternally grateful my wife does the heavier lifting in this area.

  • DeafMutePretender on 27/09/2019 - 00:18
    -3

    Looking at the replies so far, I'd guess the average cost of those 3 main utilities would be $100-150 (lower end) to $250 (higher end) per month. Or $1200 to $3000 per year.

    At the minimum wage of $20 per hour, you'll need to sacrifice 5 to 13 hours of your life each month. So a shift or 2 a month is enough to pay for them.

    Throwing away our lives so we can live. How ironic.

    • ssquid on 27/09/2019 - 00:27

      So who do you expect to pay for your utilities, if not yourself?

    • Hybroid on 27/09/2019 - 00:31
      +1

      Throwing away our lives so we can live.

      Yea, if you choose to live as a single person on minimum wage in a 2/3 bedroom house…

      One bed apartment rates in CBD:-

      Water: Free included
      Gas: $40 per month.
      Electricity: $60 per month.

      This includes daily hot showers, air heating/cooling, 24x7 PC on, heavy TV/PS4 use and LED lighting.

      • dasher86 on 27/09/2019 - 07:43
        +2

        It's also free in prison.

        • [Deactivated] on 27/09/2019 - 22:38

          Free…until you drop the soap ;) I would recommend looking at share-houses first before considering prison.

  • brad1-8tsi on 27/09/2019 - 08:37

    1 person
    3 bedroom / 2 bathroom.
    Gas cooktop & HWS

    Per Quarter:
    Water: Sydney Water. Fixed costs $185. Usage $19

    Gas: Amaysim. 91 days supply $35. Usage $21

    Electricity: Simply Energy AFL10 plan with fixed rate. 91 days supply $80. Usage $120 (570kwh)
    Microwave, dishwasher & washing machine all <3yo. 75" TV that's on whenever I'm home. Really old fridge that needs updating. LED DLs throughout.

    edit: Strata fees $1300/qtr inc 2 car spaces and a 16sqm storage cage.

    • ihbh on 03/10/2019 - 14:22

      That's low gas usage. Do you cook much?

      • brad1-8tsi on 03/10/2019 - 22:29

        nope 4 nights and I tend to batch cook 3 menus and freeze them then heat in the microwave. Most usage would be hot water. I'm on the cheapest plan I can find

        I'm only home 4 days. My young adult kids come over 2 days.

        The place is too big for 1 person but it ticks boxes and I need to leave the place open for my kids to live.

  • Koolness on 08/10/2019 - 14:56

    I live in a 3 bedroom / 2 bathroom house by myself
    Surburban Melb

    Per quarter figures
    Water: $300
    1-2 showers a day, nothing extravagant

    Gas: $100
    Cooking and hot water use, don't cook as much as I should.

    Electricity: $240
    Have a couple LIFX lights on schedule, google home minis, and NAS on 24/7 I could turn off to reduce cost but I enjoy the conveniences of them.

    [EDIT]
    Some additional info, back in 2017 I was living by myself in a 2 bedroom / 1 bathroom apartment
    Per quarter figures
    Water: $200
    No garden, less clothes washing.

    Gas: $0
    Cooking was from electric stovetop, and hot water was electric powered

    Electricity: $270
    Extra from hot water unit

    My lifestyle hasn't changed much except I live in a much bigger place

    • lgacb08 on 08/10/2019 - 20:26

      that's a lot of water for a single household, our family of 4 got similar bill to yours (if you're renting that's even way to excessive). Do you do 1 hour shower morning and evening or have massively leaky toilet?

      • Koolness on 08/10/2019 - 20:38

        I don't think I use much water. My bill says I use about 170L per day.

        The water vic gov website says I should aim for 155L per day so I'm just a bit over.

        Not renting, showers are like 5-10 mins, never use the dishwasher, don't think I have anything leaking.
        ¯_(ツ)_/¯

        [EDIT] Actually I figured it out, my last bill included the additional charges, $80 for Annual Parks

        So my normal water bill is around $210

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