[WA] ½ Price TAFE 2020 Courses (Under 24 Y.Os) - Cert 3 Civil Construction $334 (Was $1023) + 30 More @ TAFE WA

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fees cut for 30 WA TAFE courses will be cut in half as the WA government apptempts to coax young people back into training

Note "Concession" Tuition fees pictured in the photo will only apply for youths under 24 years of age.

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  • +5 votes

    Just for wa?

  • +1 vote

    Anyway to search for online / remote delivery?

  • +13 votes

    Great initiative. But the underlying problem is that fees were increased astronomically to begin with!

    • +5 votes

      Sounds like ebay

    • +1 vote

      Australian's love losing their money.

      They voted to privatise utilities because charlatans told them it was going to be cheaper and more efficient. And when both of those claims turned out to be completely wrong and an economic disaster unfolded they kept voting for the charlatans.

      Because they love losing money while replacing reality with the failed predictions of an economic theory.

    • +1 vote

      Teachers don't work for free..

  • +8 votes

    Add to post only available to under 24's.

    I guess no edu email for me :p

  • +1 vote

    Can I be a civil engineer after completing this Cert 3 Civil Construction course?

    • +7 votes

      Perhaps, but the one drawback would be the fact that you'd be a civil engineer

    • +2 votes

      You won't be accredited as an engineer by Engineers Australia with a cert 3. You will usually need at least a 4-year bachelor with honours or a 2-to-3-year master degree from a university.

      • +2 votes

        Yeh I know but will it enable me to get a job in construction and work myself up to be an engineer?

        • +1 vote

          You will still need the degree.

          Whether you could be sponsored by a company, maybe, like cadetships (in cadetships your job may/may not be guaranteed, comes with minimum length of service, etc etc).

          Tafe seems like the long way of getting there, but depending on your situation (TER/ATAR etc) you may need to go this route.

          Honestly, go speak to tafe/uni and get real advice. Ozb is not the place for advice.

        • +6 votes

          You need to know math, physics, be familiar with computers and 3D software packages, certain formula's, loads of theory and develop critical thinking.
          You don't get any of that whilst being on the tools.
          Completely different skill sets; neither can do the others job (it goes both ways).

          • +1 vote

            @Viper8: In terms of training, partly. Some skills do develop, depending on what your role in construction is exactly, such as critical thinking and management. If you're just basic labour, forget it. But the cert III is probably not for basic labourers. You wouldn't develop design skills, although you get a great feel for what works in practice (which some of the young engineers with no construction experience struggle with).

            Several of the best design engineers I know started as drafters and then went back and re-trained into engineers.

    • +1 vote

      No. Go get advice from Tafe & uni advisors, but my understanding is:
      Tafe = Diploma -> Engineering technician, ie: Inspectors and similar roles, limited opportunity. Or drafters.
      Uni = Degree -> Engineer

      It may be necessary to use Tafe as a mechanism to get into Uni though. Being careful of any minimum course requirements, or where you can get credits to reduce the length of your degree. Eg:
      https://scieng.curtin.edu.au/study/undergraduate/entry-pathw...
      https://futurestudents.curtin.edu.au/years-10-12/student-inf...

      Generally someone with a diploma is not competitive for most roles when other applicants have degrees. But there are all sorts of roles (design, construction, project management) so perhaps this is not always true - I suggest you also call a number of companies to ask. Honestly, there are not that many 'real players' (companies) in WA design/construction.

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      yeah as long as you also get an engineering degree.

  • +10 votes

    I guess a course in civil construction doesn't mean being good at maths.
    Half of $1,023 isn't $334.

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    hmmmm it appears it is a lot more expensive than a few hundred dollars!
    https://www.southmetrotafe.wa.edu.au/sites/default/files/upl...?

    AZB0 RII30915 RII30915 Certificate III in Civil Construction TBA General Industry Training $366.00 $1,698.24 $511.56 $2,064.24 $877.56 $1,131.00

    Recognition of Prior Learning (RPL), needed for enrollment? $1131
    Concession course fees $511.56
    Resource fees $366
    Profile course fees $1,698.24
    Total = $3706.8

    so if anything the article is quite misleading; a $700 discount of an otherwise $4400 course… feel free to correct me.

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      You got it wrong. Concession OR profile course fees, not both. And I think OR RPL (presume it's where you get the course credited based on if you've already done similar.. fark that RPL fee is a rort for an experience assessment and ticking the box)

      So unless you qualify for a concession it should be:
      Resource fees $366
      Profile course fees $1,698.24

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      I got a feeling these prices haven’t been updated yet.

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    Seeing how mining activity picks up again in WA, Anyone in the field could recommend a course that would potentially lead to lucrative career in the mining industry? Would something like OHS easy to find jobs in the industry?

    • +1 vote

      I'll let others answer. You can make good coin, but be prepared financially to deal with being made redundant. Don't mortgage yourself to the limit. Have savings in an offset account. Because redundancy is crazy common since the GFC.

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      I was reading it only "picked up" because of a massive price spike in iron ore this year. Mainly due to Brazil's Vale dam disaster (which cut off Australia's main competitor). Australia would be in recession, but instead it is in surplus, through nothing more than dumb luck.

    • +5 votes

      This is a bit long, but here goes:

      No, OHS jobs are the first jobs to get axed when companies look for efficiencies/savings, because safety people don't help to output even one extra tonne of product. You're only there to keep the company in legal compliance so that they can defend against future law suits and action by government departments, especially environmental and the Mines Dept.

      Also, everyone will hate you.

      You'll be a person with no industry experience or empathy and understanding for the working realities on the job front. Your job will be to stick your nose in other people's work and make changes as you best interpret the out of date or out of touch documents from corporate head office.

      OHS are the piggy in the middle. Management will smile and pay you lip service but resent every call you make that results in a delay of moving product tonnes (hurting their KPIs) or costs money unless it's out of someone else's budget. Workers will hate it when you interfere with how they do things and resent it when you can't fix problems because you don't have the clout to change company culture or employee numbers/roles.

      Good OHS personnel are great communicators, understand the legislation, acts, standards, corporate policies, (or know where to dig for the info), business realities, and when to turn a blind eye or CYA.

      If you want to get into mining and don't have a trades background or a technical one (It, comms, etc), then your best bet is a position where you can start unskilled and also see a lot of the site during your shifts. You're also far more likely to find work on a shutdown (a few days or weeks) than a regular scheduled job.

      Trades assistant (usually on shutdowns), conveyor roller changeout (shutdown or shift), and operator (drive trucks, hose fixed plant, operate massive machinery on shift) are all decent paths. These roles are always necessary and give you widely applicable skills.

      Cleaning is also an easy way to get a start on site, if you want to look around and make contacts, but don't stay long in this poorly paid role; use the opportunity and move on.

      Once you've been on site for a while and know the reality of it, pick a career that suits you. Being a trades assistant is often a good method to get a taste of everything.

      Unless the mine is supported by a local town and you move your family there, then it's a FIFO life where you spend more time away from your family than with them. It can be stressful on you and them.

      If you're indigenous or a woman then you'll find more doors open to you for employment and often a shorter path to permanent rostered work (with a major employer rather than contractors or labour hire), but holding onto that work once you're in is no easier than it is for anyone else. This can vary a lot depending on your employer. Don't expect any extra money or special treatment.

      And you'll have to stop any drug use, especially marijuana, because drug testing is going to catch you out.

      Watch every episode and video clip of Mining Boom on YouTube. The events aren't that far fetched and the depiction of mining culture is spot on. That show holds up a mirror to the entire industry.

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        Thank you for taking the effort and time to write this. I was actually a St John level 2 volunteer for a while, hence OHS came to mind. I don't do drug or even alcohol anyway, so no worries there.

        Pretty interested in IT. Any particular IT skill worth exploring in tafe? Just not sure about going uni again. Not starting from zero btw, had a fairly long career in healthcare field too.

    • +1 vote

      Have a look at electrical engineering diploma. Not only those particular skills are currently in demand in the mining industries due to increasing automation but it's also transferable to other industries if the mining activity slows down.

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      HR drivers licence

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    Not a bargain. New standard price.

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    Bla … bla…. bla… At least it’s a step to a right solution or some one is doing something with solutions for the younger generation not just negs …

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