Your Ways of Dealing with Rude Drivers in Parking Lots

No, this is not another of these 'who's fault is it, please say not mine' topics ;)

I had a nasty adventure today, while on a parking lot next to a small shopping centre in NSW. When driving into that open air parking lot, you have to follow the road (parking spots available left and right on it), do a loop and then you exit right next to the entry, where you can decide to either give it another go, or leave the way you came from. See my awesome Paint skills below.

Lame sketch

Long story short, I drove on the parking lot today, and saw an empty spot in white spot. Drove past it slightly and started reversing slowly, only to see another car race into that spot from the end of the loop road, violating the give way road marks. Took me good 5 seconds after emergency breaking to comprehend what happened, and due to other cars waiting to leave the loop I decided to drive further and look for another spot.
The driver of that car did not leave their vehicle until I drove away - dunno if on purpose or due to being preoccupied with something in the car.

For a good 5 minutes after that happened I really felt like approaching that driver when he came back just to give him a piece of my mind about stunts like that, but I just figured it might lead to unnecessary argument on a public parking lot, so I let it go and just drove off after I was done with my shopping.

What's in my head right now, is a glaring question: how do other drivers in Oz deal with situations like that? No collision, no damages either way, yet anyone in my position could feel at least slightly irritated over being treated like that by another driver. Moreover, no reaction from one party encourages the other party to try that again some other time.

Discuss.

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  • 23
    Unleash hell, let your hate run through you ;)
  • 1
    Engage in an argument to teach them a lesson
  • 138
    Let it go, idiots are everywhere

Comments

  • +22 votes

    I have a Dashcam. When someone does something shitty, I share the video with DashcamsAU on Youtube and hope people in the comments agree with me.

    • +2 votes

      Kind of what I am trying to get here verbally I guess :) Some validation can come a long way to make us feel better about ourselves I guess.

      • +11 votes

        The older one gets, the more appealing Option 3 of your poll becomes.

      • -1 vote

        Sounds like you don't know how to handle these situations.
        Either you need to learn this life skill about standing your ground and taking what is yours.

        Or you need to come up with a coping mechanism. I assure you posting on OzB and DashCams won't last forever, as you will come up as a "whinger" and won't get the "support" to cope with having these experiences. Maybe, for next time load up your car with some printed notes that are witty and to the point like "Hey thanks Ahole … … ". Or maybe get one of those "Stop a Douschebag" stickers?

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    I carry a permanent marker in my car. Write on their windshield or side mirror that they're an idiot. Sometimes people just need to be told that they're an idiot/ass. I generally try to see the good in people and don't think that people do dumb things out of malice, but rather that they're just ignorant.

    Let them know they're an idiot, they'll spend a few seconds cleaning it off and hopefully they think twice next time.

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      An interesting approach, although it could probably earn anyone a visit from the police later on, if the owner of that car would report an act of vandalism :/

      • +9 votes

        It's extremely unlikely. The Police are short-staffed enough as is and have plenty of things to be doing. Family member of mine saw someone trying to break into their house and called the police, they didn't show up until almost an hour later. I doubt they have time to follow up on someone writing on someone else's windshield with a marker.

        Anyway, can you even imagine anyone reporting to the police that someone wrote on their windshield with a marker that they're an idiot? The police will probably just nod, say they'll follow up and just laugh about it afterwards at the station.

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          I was at home when a robber broke in and the police had a chopper + dogs on site within 3 minutes of calling them.

          Given this was a Friday in the middle of the day and it was more serious because he straight up smashed the doors to get in.

          • +1 vote

            @Jamesrulez1: I got robbed and know who did the robbery, the cops and insurance people both also said yes they were the people as well as the security people i got to come in to install a new alarm.

            Yet the cops never got back to us for more details on the people who they felt had done it and we tried contacting the cops many times and never got a response back. Gave up after a while.

            • -3 votes

              @lonewolf: @lonewolf

              we tried contacting the cops many times and never got a response back. Gave up after a while.

              'Tried' contacting the cops? What do you mean by 'try'? Did you actually call the local police station? Did you think energetically about it, hoping that would psychically work? Did your calls go to voicemail? Or were engaged? Or handled by off-shore call centres? Did you attempt to visit the police station but were prevented by… barriers? demonstrators? picketers? a moat surrounding the station?

              And… 'many times'. How many is many? A couple is two. And a few is three or four. Many? I guess that means more than four. So…. at least five times? You 'tried' at least five times. Wow.

              'and never got a response'. Well, of course. If you only ever 'tried' to contact the police, but never actually contacted them, how could they possibly respond to you? Unless, of course, your psychic 'trying' eventually got through to someone.

              Let's assume you actually did contact the police at some stage. Given the matter seems that it was important to you, did you keep a record of the conversation? The date, time? The name of the officer you spoke to? Their response? Did they say they would get back to you?

              I mean, if this is the case, then this appears to be a fairly significant dereliction of their responsibilities. I would definitely lodge a complaint with the relevant police complaints tribunal in your state. Supply them with the details of the 'many' calls/visits/attempts you made, and the the lack of response to you despite their promises to do so.

              'Gave up after a while.' Ahhhh… so it just didn't matter that much anyway? Well, only enough to bad-mouth the police some days/weeks/months/years later in some little public forum. But not enough to care enough or do anything about it at the time?

              Oh that's right… you 'tried'.

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                @Roman Sandstorm:

                'Tried' contacting the cops? What do you mean by 'try'? Did you actually call the local police station?

                I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove - but the 6 paragraphs you wrote achieved nothing but pointing out the fact that you have the communication skills of a f.cking brick. Seriously, a child could have figured out what 'tried' means in this context.

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                  @ILikeBargenz: Please elucidate me. I'm not a child, and my communication skills apparently are somewhat deficient.

                  What exactly does 'tried' mean in this context?

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                    @Roman Sandstorm: If a friend of yours (you do have some of those right?) tells you they 'tried' calling you - would you respond with:

                    'Tried' contacting me? What do you mean by 'try'? Did you actually call me? Did you think energetically about it, hoping that would psychically work?

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                      @ILikeBargenz: @ILikeBargenz

                      you have the communication skills of a f.cking brick.
                      If a friend of yours (you do have some of those right?)

                      You really love the smarmy personal attack, don't you?

                      Regardless….

                      'Tried' implies 'attempted but failed'. One says: "I tried to make the meeting on time, but could not quite get there." One doesn't say: "I tried to make the meeting on time, but I actually did get there."

                      So, my (somewhat exaggerated for effect) point to the poster was: How did you try? Did the police not answer your calls? Did they hang up on you? Did they answer but refuse to tell you anything? Did they take your details, promise to call you back, but did not?

                      Thus, I was highlighting that poster's throwaway line bad-mouthing the cops, but not providing and real evidence of their deleliction, beyond his own assertion of 'trying'.

                      I am all for criticising authorities if they so deserve it, but what the poster said was lazy and meaningless.

                      And then you launch personal attacks on me because you think everyone should be able to divine exactly what the poster meant when he was hopelessly non-specific. Well done. <sarcasm intended>

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                        @Roman Sandstorm:

                        So, my (somewhat exaggerated for effect) point to the poster was: How did you try? Did the police not answer your calls? Did they hang up on you? Did they answer but refuse to tell you anything? Did they take your details, promise to call you back, but did not?

                        No, you were being a condescending ass based entirely on the assumption that they made no effort to actually contact the police.

                        Again, if a friend of yours said they tried calling you - I'm sure you'd understand exactly what they meant. But for some reason, in this context, you choose to feign ignorance over the use of the word 'tried'.

          • +1 vote

            @Jamesrulez1: Unless they were already in the air, you'd be scrambling to take off in 3 minutes.

    • +1 vote

      thats a scumbag move. You have no right to damage other ppls property no matter how dumb the scenario may seem to you.

      You would be better off keeping paper and pen and write on the paper and stick it under their window wiper.

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        Maybe use a chalk marker next time.

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        Maybe pull off the wiper. Oops.

      • +20 votes

        thats a scumbag move. You have no right to damage other ppls property no matter how dumb the scenario may seem to you.

        That's why people keep being assholes, because they know there are no consequences.

        I've lived in countries where if you piss off the wrong people, you'll find your windshields smashed in, your car won't be there when you come back, or worse yet, you'll have the tar beaten out of you. I had an acquaintance who was shot because he looked at someone the wrong way. It's shaped the way that I live my life. Every time I do something, I think about whether I'm pissing someone off or being a nuisance to someone else. I assume that I could be pissing off the wrong person on the wrong day and I think twice about what I'm doing.

        Too many people have grown up living in an ivory tower where they think they can just do whatever they want to other people and nobody ever told them otherwise. I know the exact attitude these people have, it's the "what are you gonna do about it" mentality.

        • +4 votes

          Umm.. you had me for the first part, but shooting someone because of a look?
          Thats psychotic.

          • +1 vote

            @outlander: That's just what it feels like because we live in AU. Just watch the US news, there's a mass shooting almost every week with plenty of innocent deaths. You'd think it doesn't happen, but it's more likely to be shot for no reason in the US than to die in an airplane crash.

            There are many countries that are far worse in terms of gun control with corruption run amass and guns falling into the wrong hands of gangsters and petty criminals.

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            @outlander: I grew up outside Australia as well, and can vouch that this does happen in other countries.
            To be honest, ashholes (sic) like the ones in OP's post do deserve what's coming to them. They may be in a hurry, but they give no consideration as to whether the person they stole the spot from was, as well.

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          Champ if you have a genuine problem with someone doing the wrong thing, you're better off approaching them nicely and presenting the case.
          Hell, sometimes you can't approach them nicely, and yelling at them works.

          Keeping a permanent marker to hide and write on their windscreen is a weasel act of scumbags, they're not going to drive home and smile at the message and promise to not do it again. In fact if my dashcam captures you doing it to my car, it will be permanent with you somewhere else.

        • +5 votes

          hangon - so you say "Every time I do something, I think about whether I'm pissing someone off or being a nuisance to someone else. I assume that I could be pissing off the wrong person on the wrong day and I think twice about what I'm doing."

          but then you also say "I carry a permanent marker in my car. Write on their windshield or side mirror that they're an idiot. Sometimes people just need to be told that they're an idiot/ass."

          I'm not having a go at you, but it seems like those two statements are diametrically opposed to each other.

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          that's a great story mate but you live in Australia now where people are somewhat civilized

          There are consequences for damaging property

          It looks like you are still living in another country.

          Given that you have lived in countries like that and you still go around writing on people's windsheild you don't think someone will see you and you piss off the wrong person?

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          Kind of contradicts your own point. Smashing a windsheld, beating someone up, or even shooting them… these all sound like a place where people do what they want with no regard of other people. Damage someones car might damage their lively hood? Beating someone up or shooting them could cause irreversible damage — all to prove a point or teach a lesson about not stealing a car spot?

          To me it sounds like you are forcing yourself to paint a picture of everyone in a dark light. There is the possibility that someone you think stole your car spot actually didn't see you? Or perhaps they didn't know the courtesy rules of a car park?

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        You realise that a permanent marker will easily wash off a window, right? It's not permanent damage, it's only there until they wash it.

    • +3 votes

      Jeez..who hurt you mate…

    • +3 votes

      Great idea if you aren't the A-hole. One day my dad parked in the last car park available at a movie theatre. The driver had parked so far over my dad had to squeeze into the car park to take his three kids to the movies.

      When we got back to the car there was a note on the car (pre printed). It had a picture of Mickey Mouse and said they would need a can opener to get into their car because of my dad's poor parking.

      They had keyed the (new) car as well as putting a funny note on the car. They had obviously planned on being the A-hole or quite some time.

      If you had me sit around and write a list of people who I wish physical harm on in my life, that person would be in the top 5.

      Why can't everyone just try not to POS's?

      So hopefully you are always the righteous one and not just some self righteous POS. But I would imagine if you have done it more than once… Odds are… You are the POS.

      It's like people who always get in fights on the town… They are the fighters but think that everyone is looking to pick a fight with them.

      • +1 vote

        So hopefully you are always the righteous one and not just some self righteous POS. But I would imagine if you have done it more than once… Odds are… You are the POS.

        You miss the point - the point is not that I'm doing it out of frustration or any anger, but that it's a small harmless prank that will make them think twice the next time they decide to be an (profanity).

        Getting a message from someone on your windshield that you're an (profanity) is harmless, one day they could be doing the same thing and piss off someone much more dangerous than me and things can get ugly.

        It's like people who always get in fights on the town… They are the fighters but think that everyone is looking to pick a fight with them.

        That's exactly the type of people who I think need to think twice before they do anything. People live in a bubble where they never consider how their actions can affect others and they forget the simple rule of treating others as you would like to be treated yourself.

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      I can't agree more. This is gold.

  • +26 votes

    That has got to be the best paint picture I've seen here. Looks like the easy stage from arcade racing games.

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      Prise the cover off their tow hoop, leave it on the floor and use a steel zip tie to a supermarket trolley

  • +8 votes

    In that instant I would let them park and then get out and politely say "thanks for stealing my parking spot, but I wouldn't let the car out of my sight if I was you". and proceed to get back in the car and look for another spot

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      Not a good idea. They may make a mental note of your car and damage it.

      I'd rather let it go and not have to spend the time worrying about whether I'll come back to a damaged car.

      If you let it go, chances are you won't even remember such a trivial thing the next day.

  • +6 votes

    If they weren't paying enough attention, they might not have realised you were reversing.

    So they may not have intentionally "stolen" your car parking spot. Maybe give them the benefit of the doubt, and brush it off.

  • +7 votes

    You just have to let it go really, Im a big believer that pieces of shit usually run into other pieces of shit, and it results in one or both getting a decent hiding eventually. For something so minor, it's not worth running into someone who might give you life changing injuries just because your pride got the better of you.

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    Might need to learn to reverse faster and/or position your car to you cover the spot as soon as it's empty so no-one else can get in.

  • +1 vote

    3 chains of thought.

    1// The person who stole your spot is a **** << Absolutely 100%
    2// The person who stole your spot may have really needed it << very unlikely given they just sat in the car after parking it.
    3// The person will most likely do it again. They got away with it and faced no shame or repercussion.

    This happened to me a while back. In my case, the other party works for an estate agent. I choose to confront the culprit.

    • +1 vote

      How did that go?

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        He plead ignorance and walked off. I walked off saying it's a small town, you've got more to lose. He stopped for a few seconds.

        I was able to get a space further up anyway.

  • -2 votes

    How slow were you reversing? Seems to be very very very slow.

  • +5 votes

    So you drove past it and started reversing backwards down a one-way road, but the guy who came from the correct direction is in the wrong?

    • +4 votes

      Good point! so what you’re saying is that every person who uses this strange car park has to go in nose first into a parking spot? So when they are leaving they would then be going the wrong way?

    • +4 votes

      How else do you reverse into a spot?

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        The only logical solution is to always reverse your car in a car park. Then you can reverse into a spot without reversing, if you know what I mean.

  • +1 vote

    In my view since you had already passed the parking lot, you should proceed on. No reverse back. Anyway it is just a parking problem. Have some deep breaths, and consider you are doing a good job to the other driver , your irritation will be over.

  • +1 vote

    He would have been in the loop longer than you, so he should get the spot. You were essentially stealing his spot.

    Edit: Misinterpreted your diagram. I thought you just entered the car park and saw the spot immediately, but that is not explicitly illustrated. Although still possible.

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    ♫ ♫ Let it go, let it go let it go ♫ ♫

  • +1 vote

    Did you indicate?

    In Sydney, you pretty much have to block the parking spot with your car until the area around you is clear and then reverse in.

    From the diagram, there might be a chance that the guy didn't see you as you are around the blind corner. Many drivers have tunnel vision like they have blinders on and look straight ahead without checking the sides.

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      In some parts of Sydney, get your passengers to get out of car and find a parking spot and block any car going in until you arrive. /s

      • +1 vote

        That’s a douche move. If your car doesn’t get here first you shouldn’t be holding claim to a space. Having someone hold he space is how you end up with footage on the news of someone sitting in a space while a car blocks entry to the carpark.

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    If you reverse park, you gotta be quick, at least up to a point where its impossible for someone else to steal.
    If your reverse skills aren't quite there, unless you're the only one nearby, don't reverse in for this exact reason, and also for road blocking reasons.

  • +12 votes

    Put on a Telstra uniform, walk up to the other driver and tell them "Be aware, I have your details". Apparently, that scares the hell out of people.

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    More than happy to engage with inconsiderate/dangerous drivers. Also people who leave trolleys lying around the car park instead of returning to the bay. You need to speak up in life, otherwise you'll be taken advantage of at every opportunity.

  • -2 votes

    Once you drive past you're not entitled to the spot anymore.

    • +3 votes

      No one is ‘entitled’ to the spot.

      • -3 votes

        Since your being pedantic I'll rephrase it for you.
        The first car to arrive at the spot is entitled to park there.
        OP is not permitted to reverse in the wrong direction.

        • +4 votes

          OP is not permitted to reverse in the wrong direction.

          You should have stuck with your first sentence.

        • +3 votes

          Reversing in one-way streets is permitted in NSW when parking rear to kerb.

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          Think you missed the point. No one is ‘entitled’ under law or anything like that. Courtesy suggests that it’s first in first served. Courtesy and perhaps the road rules suggest that once you passed a space you shouldn’t go back. Just because you indicate to park doesn’t mean it is your space.

          Whether the road rules apply in car parks I’m not 100% sure, but as pointed out you are allowed to reverse on a rod to park.

  • +3 votes

    The key to civil and orderly manners in the car park are contained in this sentence.

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      Of course. Civil law suit, that makes the world a better place.

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      Keying their cars?

      My car was keyed once by a pregnant ( fat?) woman with 3 little kids in tow for parking in a pram carpark. When she realised I had my toddler with me , in his pram, she offered to buy me a coffee to apologise and said, "It'll wash off." No, it didn't! I had to get the insurance involved to get it sorted. Thankfully, she had also given me her number.

  • +3 votes

    I used to get fired up about this, but after years of near misses, verbal abuse, and practice, you learn that the parking space is very rarely worth it — (the 1% is when you are late for your own wedding / your child's imminent birth, in which case double-parking / clearway-parking may be justified). Some a$$h0le keying your nice doors will feel much worse than the frustration of missing another space.

    Best option for the (other 99% of the time), just drive at a normal speed, stick close to the space if you are waiting for someone to leave with indicator on, or follow people from the exit doors. Bottom line, the nearest car to the space usually wins the race.

  • +12 votes

    I have a valve core remover on my keys. If someone really pisses me off and deserves vengeance, i simply unscrew and remove their valve cores. It flattens their tyres, but because i've taken the valve core, they can't even re-inflate without a tyre store giving them replacements. There have only been a few times i've done this such as when a person has parked in my private work carpark and left it there for most of the day - forcing me to have to move my car every two hours.

    I'm an advocate on non-permanent damage solutions, but something that is truely inconveniencing.

    • +1 vote

      Like taking their number plates.

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      An alternative is to remove the valve cap and replace with a small stone or stick wound on just enough to release the valve and create 4 flat tyres sometime in the near future.

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      Hi mate, I'll pay you to do this to my neighbour who have decided to cordon off a public street parking spot directly in front of their house because it's "theirs".

  • +9 votes

    I usually go home and cry into my mother's arms and then jerk off to war hammer figurines to get my serotonin levels back up.

  • +1 vote

    I think you passed a parked car that want to exit, then you decided to stop and let the car leave the spot so you can reverse into the parking spot. That is when the second car entered the parking spot at the same time as you reversed.

    Once you passed a parking spot, you just cannot claim that parking spot anymore. You just missed it. End of story.

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    I would have went back and keyed the car using stealth mode. Quite easy to do with some practice.

    This will give you a sense of relief while avoiding confrontation.

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    Here to vent-
    I was driving, empty spot up ahead on my side of the road. A car coming from the opposite direction indicates that they want it. I pull into the spot and as I'm straightening out the car, the car has done a 3-point turn and edged the front of their car into the gap I've left behind my car, with 80% of their car in the driving lane. They refused to move and I was blocked in. I got out and they guy's wife in the passenger seat is filming me with an iPhone. Told him that if he reversed I'd be able to leave the spot and they could have it and they agreed. Didn't sit well with me but I needed to get somewhere and they were obviously not the kind of people that could have sense talked into them.

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