Ninebot Segway Kickscooter Max $999 Delivered @ PC Byte

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  • 25.4cm Pneumatic Tyres
  • Built-In Front LED Lights
  • 30km/hr Top Speed
  • 65km Range
  • 20% Hill Grade
  • 6H Fast Charging
  • 551Wh Battery
  • 99.8kg Weight Load
  • Australia warranty

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  • +17 votes

    99.8kg Weight Load

    That weight limit will rule out 85% of ozbargainers.

  • +3 votes

    Obligatory are these legal to use in Public comment.

    • +7 votes

      It is legal to use them in Queensland.

      • -1 vote

        No it isn't. Its max speed is 5km/h too high to fall under 'personal mobility scooter' rules in QLD.

        • +2 votes

          Genuine question: How do the police know what a scooter's top speed is, when they see you riding past?

          Are they likely to do a Google search of the specs to see if it's an approved model?

          If you're riding at a sensible speed, are you likely to have any trouble?

          What is a good choice for a legal electric scooter in QLD?

          • +2 votes

            @klaw81: I think you'll find majority of police have eyes (and speed detection tools).

            Realistically, as long as you aren't being an idiot I doubt you'd have much trouble.

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          The top speed for this model varies from 25km/h to 30km/h. Segway-Ninebot apparently send different top-speed versions to different countries in order to meet requirements of the law.

          There's a digital speedometer display that allows self-monitoring of one's speed. Riding it in "Eco" mode sets the max speed at 10km/h, "D" mode limits it to 20km/h, and "S" mode sets max speed at 25km/h or 30km/h depending on where the scooter is sourced.

  • +1 vote

    No mention of the wattage means it’s too high to be legal

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    551Wh battery… damn this thing is HUGE if that’s not a typo.

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      This scooter has been one i have been keeping on eye on due to it's range. I have the original M365 and my biggest annoyance is not been able to get really long journeys and it doesn't get me to work (about 15 km's away) and unless i am cutting it fine each time and getting battery anxiety. There are a few youtube videos out there where people have done tests and they pretty much get the advertised distance (as long as you an ideal weight, not using turbo mode, and don't have too much hilly areas).

      I think it has the edge over the M365 Pro tbh.

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    Which is the fastest electric scooter you can buy that is same formfactor as this one?

    • +1 vote

      Tbh you don’t want to be going much faster than this. These small tyres are not very good when you hit bad pathways and will knock you off if you’re not paying attention. 10” pneumatic is better than nothing but speed is not your friend here.

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      You basically want at least 25km's which this does (it's 30 tops) but distance going forward is going to matter.

    • -1 vote

      This is already illegal to use in all states including Queensland due to its top speed. Other pedestrians wouldn't want to be sharing a footpath with someone doing 30+km/h.

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        Lime scooters go upto 30km/hr. This is from personal experience on flat ground.

        Not disputing legality.

    • +1 vote

      Something like the Dualtron Thunder is pretty similar form factor but way way heavier (can go like 60MPH though)

  • +3 votes

    How does this compare to say a Xiaomi Pro, which I can also afford?

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      This has longer range and slightly bigger tires. From reviews, it's also better at climbing slopes. 25% heavier than the og m365 but should still be portable for short distances.

      I thought this was also limited to 25kmph like the m365 and pro but apparently not.

      I've got a m365 that I use from home to train to work and back, approx 10km every weekday. Get home with 56% battery left. The lack of suspension makes for a bumpy ride especially if using footpaths. Should be similar on the max.

      • -1 vote

        Segway-Ninebot sells different top-speed versions of this model depending on the country. PC Byte may have sourced this from a country where the legal top speed is 30km/h.

    • +1 vote

      +1 to Manny for excellent use of a Simpsons reference

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      The Ninebot Max has a slightly larger battery, larger tyres, drum brake and is RWD. It also has an internal power brick. Apparently it has a more sturdy construction.

      The Xiaomi M365 Pro has a slightly smaller battery, smaller tyres, disk brake and is FWD. The Xiaomi uses external power brick whereas it's integrated on the Ninebot Max.

      However the Ninebot Max is a chunky monkey at 18.7kg. Its also $300 more expensive. Performance between the two will be pretty close.

      Both scooters are essentially variants of the same design. The M365 has a lot of Ninebot parts inside it. This is unsurprising as Xiaomi has a financial interest in Ninebot.

      I think the M365 Pro is better value and its significantly lighter. The Ninebot Max is probably a better scooter if you don't mind the weight. But you'd expect that given the price.

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    Can anyone comment on the braking performance of these?
    I like the disc brake on the Xiaomi so I would like something with similar stopping power.

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      Should use the same setup as it's essentially an upgraded m365.

    • +2 votes

      I received mine on Friday. Very happy with the performance all around. The braking is very good. It is a combination on the front drum brake and rear electric regenerative. Stops quickly and safely even down hill. You can set the harshness of the electric brake in the app.

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    Newbie Q time for the pros here pls…

    Ok so interesting… Potentially intrigued enough to ask now…pls help genuine rookie Qs

    1) 18.7kg, has anyone lugged this around e.g. From train station to the office in city peak hour, how does it feel, how long can you carry it around for in general? Does it pack/fold nicely? (yes it wld vary by person)

    2) legal side, for all the ppl who use these motorised scooters, are you getting caught?

    3) what's the fine if you get busted?

    I can see the convenience to ride this to the station (inner streets) but then wld need to lug it up stairs onto the train then carry through ppl in peak hour to the office…

    4) is there a better lightweight option to achieve the same outcome? (don't really need more than about 10-15km range TBH)

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      Its pretty heavy tbh. Consider an e-skateboard if you want portability

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        If i cld skate I'd be in for sure.. Wonder how hard it could be hmmm…much more portable too. Tall guy here with poor skate skills!

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      I wont answer the other questions but the M365 (not Pro) was 12.5 KG's and was heavy as anything and was liftable for only short distances and gives you blisters if you are carrying it every day. At 18.7 KG's its not worth lugging around unless you are fit. It's basically only foldable to store away. These things are also massive on the train and you will get dirty looks from people on the train taking up so much room.

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      M365 would be more suitable for your use case.

      In QLD, as long as you ride carefully, police won't bother you even if your top speed is over 25. I see plenty of more powerful scooters going past me and no one complains.

    • +4 votes

      1) I have a Xiaomi M365 Pro which weighs around 14kg and it's not heavy to lug around (when you have to for short stints).
      2) No (Melbourne)
      3) Unregistered vehicle (~$826 in VIC). Have scooted past cops and never get stopped provided you obey road rules, wear a helmet, respect peds and not be an idiot (as with most things)

      I ride to/from work daily. Sometimes I have to catch a train somewhere so I push it underneath the seats at the front part of the carriage (or the very first carriage)

      4) Yep, Xiaomi M365 Pro. Personally, the Ninebox Max is an improved version of the M365 Pro (bigger tires, larger battery, integrated charger, drum brake, rear wheel drive, similar frame). Or the M365 (non-Pro), which is around 12kg.

      I've just ticked over 1000km on my M365 Pro and haven't had any issues. Brake pads are due and I'll change the tires within the next 200km.

  • +1 vote

    This is a formidable scooter, very nice to get through the nooks and crannies of alley ways and high dense housing areas. Beside the eye candy, the scooter is fun to ride and a time saver!!!

  • +2 votes

    Review: great scooter for ride share companies, but personal owners may find too big/heavy.

    https://youtu.be/frjXzKnl6v8

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    how does this compare with the mercane wide wheel?

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      I test rode the Mercane. It's a beast. I would have bought it but for the fact the handlebars can't be adjusted and my arms were at full stretch vertically downwards. I am 192cm so not suitable to tall riders. I also tried the Xiaomi pro and that was marginally better for height but not as zippy.

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    This is sperd limited tp 25km/nour not 30 as people have been stating. Source..bought one and have ridden it. Hene it is legal in Qld.

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    Looks like same design as xiaomi?