Yamaha RX-V385 5.1 Channel AV Receiver w/ Bluetooth & 4K/60hz Pass-through $295.20 Delivered @ Radio-Parts eBay

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  freesteakknives on 13/11/2019 - 19:46

  I'm not seeing a phono pre-amp on this. Which budget model would I be after if I wanted that or is it better to get this and a separate pre-amp. If so Suggestions for a budget pre-amp appreciated.

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    bargaino on 13/11/2019 - 20:54

    -1

    I'm not seeing a phono pre-amp on this.

    You sound like the guys who complain about no serial or parallel (centronics) port on a laptop. Check your calendar: it is 2019!

    ( Don't turntables have built-in pre-amps now? )

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      corbz on 13/11/2019 - 21:01

      +1

      Check your calendar: it is 2019!

      Check your analogy, it's terrible!

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        llama on 13/11/2019 - 21:36

        The analogy is actually VERY relevant. For the most part, normal households don't use vinyl records, nor do they use VHS/Beta video tapes or compact cassettes either - these technologies have all gone the way of the dodo, just like the Centronics port.

        Now days, most people don't even physically connect their phone, music device, computer or printer - these are all used "wirelessly" in the majority of households. Devices like iPads and Mobile phones don't have ANY specialised ports, yet we all manage just fine.

        Yeah, hipsters and nostalgia buffs might desire a turntable (magnetic cartridge) or a parallel port dot matrix printer; however these features add cost without adding any value for most consumers, and hence are not marketable features on low-end devices.

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          [Deactivated] on 13/11/2019 - 23:10

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          @llama: Vinyl never went the way of the dodo, and has made a comeback for some discerning audiophiles apparently. Where do you get your info re the "majority " of household being wireless? Younger households probably but there are plenty of "legacy" wired systems around.

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            [Deactivated] on 14/11/2019 - 10:11

            @[Deactivated]: This might be of interest, especially to the negger who didn't have the backbone to argue his point: Vinyl Revival

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          freesteakknives on 14/11/2019 - 08:53

          @llama: Just found out that dot matrix is still something you can buy - so there must be a demand.

          https://www.epson.com.au/products/printers_for_home/dot_matr…

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      freesteakknives on 13/11/2019 - 22:10

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      Nope - I don't complain about the lack of legacy ports on my laptop.

      I'm a guy that currently owns a quality turntable that has no built in pre-amp and a Yamaha RXV-870 that is deteriorating after many years of good service. Not a hipster, not a nostalgia freak nor an audio buff who spends more time pouring over specs than actually listening to music. I just have a large existing collection of vinyl and looking for a simple replacement option that is capable of accepting phono input so that I don't have to buy a new turntable.

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        bargaino on 14/11/2019 - 00:02

        +1

        I get you, no problems.
        And some people still have good reasons for using RS232. but it is a niche area, so they just buy a USB-serial dongle.

        I'm voting for "better to get this and a separate pre-amp." They are simple and cheap.

        The old NE5532 opamp chip does the job. $5 for a board on eBay, or $20 with case and power supply.

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    llama on 13/11/2019 - 21:56

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    Based on your question re: "budget", you'll be better off buying a separate preamp.

    Despite what the audiofools might say, you don't really need anything special for the preamp. Vinyl records are decidedly "LOW-FI", so you won't make them sound much better with a more costly preamp.

    Yes, there are tiny differences in different Op Amps that might or might not be even noticeable. If you care enough, buy a preamp that allows "plug and play" of the Op Amps. What makes the most difference to the sound is the Phono Cartridge, so put you money into that if you really feel that you must.

    If you desire a warmer, more nostalgic sound then some preamps that use valves add the extra distortion required to achieve that. Valve preamps also have a W&nk Factor that many people like, however that can also be achieved with a preamp that has fake valves, especially if illuminated from below with blue LEDs.

    Standard phono preamp under $25 from AU sellers on eBay, and Valve ones on following pages are about $45.
    https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=phono+preamp&_sacat=…

    Note: these comments only relate to "budget" systems. If you are talking high-end, then there are more important considerations. But in general, the speakers are most important then the cartridge, whilst almost any Amp will be good enough.

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      freesteakknives on 13/11/2019 - 22:32

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      Thanks llama

      Had no idea pre-amps were so cheap.

      Agree with your comments. My cartridge and speakers are half decent but my gear is definitely not audiophile level. A budget Yamaha amp should be good enough.

      I'll leave the valves for the Fender Twin

      Maybe I'll whack a few blue LEDS under the serial port on my Epson LQ-350.

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  SteveAndBelle on 13/11/2019 - 20:36

  So you already have a Turntable FSK?

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  ash2000 on 13/11/2019 - 22:09

  +3

  A great budget receiver. I've owned this model for over 12 months now. Handles HDR 4K pass through without issue.