Onkyo TX-RZ3100 AV Receiver- $2,995 Delivered (Last Sold $3,199; RRP $4,999) @ RIO Sound and Vision

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  Qmar on 21/11/2019 - 13:27

  +10

  $2,799 here with code p200save
  https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Onkyo-TX-RZ3100-11-2-Channel-AV-…

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    [Deactivated] on 21/11/2019 - 13:37

    C&C available?

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      Qmar on 21/11/2019 - 13:41

      +1

      Its Rios own ebay store

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    Store RepFunkyDan @ Rio Sound & Vision on 21/11/2019 - 13:55

    +3

    With eBay they cover the extra discount on their end so if you're an eBay buyer then of course purchase it through there and save yourself an extra couple hundred dollars! If however you are able to physically come into one of our stores and pick it up we are also happy to match that price of $2799 (Pick up only). :)

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      dan76n on 21/11/2019 - 14:09

      +1

      Or get it delivered for an extra $200?
      Might pay to review this price as it’s clearly a better deal through your Ebay store.

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        Store RepFunkyDan @ Rio Sound & Vision on 21/11/2019 - 14:13

        As mentioned, eBay cover the extra $200 discount when you purchase through eBay. The discount is not a discount provided by RIO, however we are happy to match that if you can come into the store to pick up. Because they are a heavy product it does cost quite a lot to ship them out, especially going interstate. But like I said above if you are interstate or can't make it in to one of our stores then of course purchase it through eBay because you will save yourself that extra $200…

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          [Deactivated] on 21/11/2019 - 14:46

          @FunkyDan: Hi funky Dan

          Why don't you post the ebay deal instead?

          You might get some more interest

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            thebadmachine on 21/11/2019 - 15:34

            @[Deactivated]: Limited quantity.

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            Store RepFunkyDan @ Rio Sound & Vision on 21/11/2019 - 15:37

            @[Deactivated]: We only have a select amount of stock allocated for eBay and I believe there are only 2 units left for the eBay store… From what I can see the offer on eBay expires today so if anyone is interested in that get onto it ASAP :)

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  [Deactivated] on 21/11/2019 - 13:38

  OP, what's main difference between this and the new model?

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    Store RepFunkyDan @ Rio Sound & Vision on 21/11/2019 - 14:09

    +1

    The RZ3400 is rated at 260W per channel vs the RZ3100 @ 200W per channel. It is also HDCP 2.3 compliant whereas as the RZ3100 is HDCP 2.2 compliant. From what I've read it looks like the other features are all fairly similar :)

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      [Deactivated] on 21/11/2019 - 14:34

      Well, this is a much better deal then. The minor difference does not justify the hefty price.

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      Astronaut Joe on 21/11/2019 - 16:20

      From Onkyo's own specs:

      RZ3400: "260W per channel"
      -> 215 W/Ch (6Ω, 1 kHz, 1% THD, 1 channel driven)

      RZ3100: "200W per channel"
      -> 200 W/Ch (6 Ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD, 1 Channel Driven)

      In other words, four-fifths of stuff all.

      No Tidal MQA decoding on the newie though? They've added it via firmware update for other products.

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  iamhurtin on 21/11/2019 - 14:13

  I wish my ears were worth enough to buy this

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    [Deactivated] on 21/11/2019 - 14:49

    My ears would definitely be worth it if I had the budget and a theatre room. Native DTS:X™ and Dolby Atmos® to 7.2.4 Channels is awesome.

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      iamhurtin on 21/11/2019 - 15:00

      Damn

      It would be so cool eh

      I've always wanted a theatre room with sound proofing and the lexus of stereos

      I've never had anything better than composite coming out of old hi-fi

      This thing being delivered to my house? Shiiiiittt
      Be like the monkeys in 2001

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  [Deactivated] on 21/11/2019 - 15:13

  composite coming out of old hi-fi

  Well, it should sound very good if audio matters to you.

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  Trickey on 21/11/2019 - 20:41

  Might as well say it. This thing has not a hope in hell of powering anything at 200 WPC. A dedicated 7 channel amplifier with 7 mono blocks is bigger than this. Even Onkyo isn’t being honest with potential buyers. On their own website it states that this receiver can power one (yes, one!) 6 ohm speaker at 200W with 0.9% THD which is pushing the poor amplifier to its limits. For those who are interested, 0.9% THD is very high which means it’s almost clipping (being overdriven) aka it’s not clean power meaning your speakers aren’t going to be driven properly and really aren’t going to sound very good. You also risk damaging them by under powering them.

  Long story short, this thing might be able to cleanly provide power up to about 140W total between all speakers. If you’re serious about your home theatre you probably already know this. If you don’t, basically this receiver isn’t very good at powering speakers but it’d probably make for a good pre pro. But then you might as well just get a pre pro and the better processing capability, connectivity etc and couple it with a dedicated amplifier for a really good separates setup.

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    thebadmachine on 21/11/2019 - 22:03

    +1

    I find your comment is a bit confusing & sounding more complicated than it is.

    Yes the power ratings in specs of many modern AV amplifiers are misleading, but it is written with details in the specifications.
    And you missed a crucial part of information, which is the 200w 0.9% THD power rating is achieved while playing a 1kHz test-tone (normal audio content contains a bunch of frequencies between 20hz-20khz and a constant 1kHz tone results in higher watt-rating before significant distortion).

    It is also worth mentioning, speakers with high-sensitivity require less-power to achieve their max SPL.
    So 100w-120w of clean power per-channel may be more than adequate for some speakers, and this applies even more if you additionally have a powered-subwoofer (a common modern-day addition) taking care of all the power-sucking low-frequencies, and you have the surround speakers set / crossed-over as “small / medium” instead of “large” on the receiver.

    Many AV receivers have their specs listed the same way.
    So it all depends on your use case.
    I understand you are trying to warn people, but it has been this way for a good while.

    So basically it could all be explained with:
    “Take the 200w per-channel power-rating with a grain of salt.”

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      Trickey on 22/11/2019 - 12:26

      “Take the 200w per-channel power-rating with a grain of salt.”

      I don't want to be argumentative, but that's not quite what I was getting at. Yes it's true that receivers have inflated power values and that there's a lot more that goes into powering speakers than just a wpc rating, but I didn't want to overwhelm someone with that level of information.

      In effect, I could probably have just said that receivers are a compromise because they attempt to package two products (pre-pro and amplifier) into one but that's also something I didn't want to do because they do have a place in the market.

      I think it's probably better explained with making sure that a receiver actually meets your requirements. It's not a bargain if you have to spend that amount several times over just to get where you needed to in the first place (be it starting fresh or upgrading). Think twice, buy once.

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        thebadmachine on 22/11/2019 - 15:25

        I appreciate your response.

        they do have a place in the market.

        Yes I agree and that target market is likely who will be looking at purchasing it.
        (Typical consumers who want minimal setup and complexity)

        making sure that a receiver actually meets your requirements.

        Yes I agree, that is what I was trying to say, it depends on your use case.