Shopping List for COVID-19 Panic Buying

LAsashoryu on 27/02/2020 - 12:06

Apparently some people in Australia have started stockpiling for the end times that's somehow to be brought about by the low case fatality rate infection Covid-19.

So in the interests of maximising the survival rate of the Ozbargain community (think of a world repopulated exclusively by Ozbargainers), perhaps we should begin compiling a shopping list for the cost-conscious panic buyer.

What products should we be stockpiling?

I note toilet paper appears to be a valuable commodity in areas affected by the virus.

General Discussion COVID-19

Comments

            • serideth on 05/03/2020 - 11:23

              @[Deactivated]: Police don't get select fire rifles either unless you're TOU. And for the most part if you want to hit stuff you leave the fun switch to single shot.

              Public order & riot squad have semi-auto AR15's and usual police carry Glock 22's.

              Given that bolt action rifles and semi-auto pistols are available to sporting shooters, I'd say it's not hard to have more arms than your average police. Not to mention with mandatory shooting requirements you should be a lot more familiar with your firearms.

              • [Deactivated] on 05/03/2020 - 11:39

                @serideth:

                Public order & riot squad have semi-auto AR15's and usual police carry Glock 22's.

                Police have some level of access to autos and semi autos.

                Civilians have no chance at all. In a social breakdown scenario, the police are going to grab the best and as much as they can, policy or not.

                Not to mention with mandatory shooting requirements you should be a lot more familiar with your firearms.

                Haha. I shoot with an officer. The officer tells me what you're telling me… proficiency in firearms is not a given.

                I am not looking to go on the offensive if all fails. I have a great defensible estate and I am practically self sufficient. In the absolute worst case scenario, I flee and return later on. I know my property inside out. I have tree blinds in some areas. I do not think any marauders will stay for long when their buddies start dropping - maybe one or two a day but I'll leave them guessing.

          • capslock janitor on 24/08/2021 - 13:14

            @Archi: No staples like rice and TP?

        • SpendLess on 29/02/2020 - 16:00
          +3

          You should read how long u meant to keep condensed milk for once open. 30 days is in diarrhoea territory and covid19 spreads in poo vapour

          • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 16:07
            +1

            @SpendLess: They say that it shouldnt be kept open for that long yet I have been doing that without issue for decades.

            Also, cant spread COVID without first contracting it.

          • 900dollaridoos on 01/03/2020 - 12:55
            +4

            @SpendLess:

            covid19 spreads in poo vapour

            Some how that is the first time this virus has started to scare me

    • ego22 on 27/02/2020 - 17:11

      the condensed milk. comes in pretty big cans. once opened how long to they last? how would u store it. each can could make 60 coffees but after 6?.. wouldnt it be off?

      • [Deactivated] on 27/02/2020 - 18:23
        +6

        I use it to make instant coffees. I have two coffees a day. I keep them in the fridge for >30 days.

        Have not had food poisoning for over 10 years.

    • EyesWideOpen on 27/02/2020 - 21:16
      +5

      Need to add in grains/pasta/noodles/rice to fill you up, else the can food will not last.

      And MEE GORENG for a treat! ;)

      • [Deactivated] on 27/02/2020 - 21:32
        +1

        Yeah. The list was not exhaustive.

        I deliberated the instant noodle option and decided against it. Despite being likely to have a long shelf life, it typically doesn't. Also, instant noodles are actually not very nutrition dense for the shelf space it occupies. It is mostly air.

        Finally, I do not regularly eat instant noodles so most of it will sit on the shelf simply to be given away and replenished. With can foods, we actually work our way through most of it.

    • paulinspace on 28/02/2020 - 09:37
      +2

      Ninja swords like the chick off walking dead had. those puppies could do some damage.

      What you going to do with all that diesel AND petrol. Molotov cocktails?

      • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 10:08

        My 4x4 and genetator run on petrol. My cars, UTV, machines, etc run on petrol.

        Molly can be made with non precious fuel.

    • Ferretface26 on 28/02/2020 - 09:41
      +2

      If the ethanol is for sanitising, you don't want it to be above 95%. Studies show the 100% stuff is actually not as effective, it turns out some water is needed.

      • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 10:06
        +1

        Above 70%, the the cells may not dehydrate and rupture, it may dehydrate and go dormant until it is rehydrated.

    • WT on 28/02/2020 - 12:22
      +9

      flesh light/dildo

      It could be some time till you find another survivor

      • Archi on 28/02/2020 - 12:23
        +21

        this is ozbargain. hands are good enough

        • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 12:26
          +5

          Just make sure you don't have any of that extra strength hand sanitizer on.

        • Cluster on 28/02/2020 - 14:58
          +1

          Taking matters into your own hands also has the benefit of being free

        • YogurtPanda on 28/02/2020 - 16:52
          +19

          If other person is another ozbargainer, ass might be too tight to fit anything

      • Plug on 29/02/2020 - 10:33

        I think you're confusing Ozbargain with Ozgasm

    • trapper on 28/02/2020 - 17:49

      I've got a couple of crappy first aid kids, any advice on a good high quality kit?

      • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 17:59

        If you've used the crappy kit, identift what works and what doesn't for you.

        For example - I do not have any zip up first aid kits. I am typically the medic and would most likely also attend to my own wounds. Zip bags require two hands to open. I may have a hand injury.

        Fewer items. I do not have crepe tape, waterproof tape, etc. I have gaffa and cable tie. It will hold a wound/splint just fine in an emergency. Also works as a tourniquet.

        Without knowing your level of skill or your likely scenarios, standard kits will still be your best bet.

        I also keep a specimen jar full of ethanol. If i need the ethanol, obviously thats where it is but i can easily tip put the ethanol to capture insects for venom ID purposes.

        Penthrox. Screaming patients are annoying.

        • Ferretface26 on 29/02/2020 - 20:45

          Can you get penthrox in Aus? As a non-medical professional I mean

          • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 21:56

            @Ferretface26: You can with a prescription.

            As for the reason for the prescription, I am not sure.

    • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 21:29

      water (15l/pax/day).

      Do you mean 1.5l/pax/day? 15L seems quite a lot if it is just for drinking purposes.

      • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 21:31
        +4

        It is averaged for drinking, cooking, sanitation and washing. Trust me, its not very much.

        If storing for drinking only (only advisable for short duration, ie under 5 days) 3l/pax/day.

        • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 21:37

          I was under the impression that it was one gallon per day per person which is less than 4L. How long would you say someone could go without a shower?

          Edit: sorry , didn't see your edit.

          • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 21:48

            @[Deactivated]: Longest for me is after a 5 day hike. I still wiped myself down nightly. I could smell myself after day 3.

            • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 22:06

              @[Deactivated]: I vaguely remember reading somewhere that Queen Elizabeth I, who was known to have had many lovers, bathed monthly. Napoleon Bonaparte famously asked his sweetheart Josephine in a love letter that she should not bath as he was coming home. Need to work on that PB of yours :P

              • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 22:13

                @[Deactivated]: My average is two showers a day.

                Don't worry, I am 100% on rainwater.

                • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 23:03
                  +1

                  @[Deactivated]: When I was on expeditions in Antartica, I went days on end without a shower. I had what they called a "whore's bath" every night before bed. I couldn't smell myself. The air was so pure and fresh that if you breathed in too deeply you could feel the frost biting your lungs. So breathed in half-measure and I couldn't tell if I stunk or not.

                  In Melbourne, I average 2 , sometime 3 showers if I go for a run during my lunch hour. In Queensland, I lost count of how many cold showers I had - I hated the sensation of stickiness on my skin. That is quite a variance. The amount of water I will need will depend on where I am when the SHTF. What is your best guesstimate?

                  • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 08:15

                    @[Deactivated]: If you put 10l a side for "showering", I reckon you can get rid off that stickiness with a spongebath.

                  • Other on 29/02/2020 - 08:25

                    @[Deactivated]: It depends - what if your on the moon or on Mars?

                    • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 08:47
                      +6

                      @Other: 3.6 gallons per day is the standard allowance on a space station.

                      Fun fact: The ISS is split into two sections, one run by Russia, and one by the United States, and they have two different water systems. The U.S. system collects condensate, runoff, and urine to create those 3.6 gallons of drinkable water per day. However, the Russian astronauts drink water processed from only shower runoff and condensate, skipping the urine (producing slightly less than that 3.6 gallons). Occasionally, the NASA astronauts will go over to the Russian side of the ISS and grab the Russian supplies of urine to process it themselves. No need to waste potential water supplies! 😂

                      In addition, the two sides of the ISS disinfect their water two different ways. Since 1981, NASA has been using iodine to disinfect water, a process that requires the water to be filtered since too much iodine can cause thyroid issues. Russia has been using silver to disinfect its water since the launch of the Mir station by the Soviet Union in 1986.

                      • Other on 29/02/2020 - 08:51
                        +4

                        @[Deactivated]: Thanks for inspiration on my new book: Space Urine trading for profit

                        I actually agree with Роскосмос on this one, damn American capitalist pigs! Will try and develop a free market in anything!

                      • Forfiet on 02/03/2020 - 20:41

                        @[Deactivated]: At least you didn't claim the Russians don't filter the urine due to personal preference….. I believe they are developing a filter for their systems to be deployed…..eventually :)

                        • [Deactivated] on 02/03/2020 - 22:23
                          +1

                          @Forfiet:

                          At least you didn't claim the Russians don't filter the urine due to personal preference…..

                          Of course not. Now, if we were talking about the Brits… 1 in 25 have admitted being into drinking a warm cuppa of pee ☕from time to time. They claim urophagia, or urine therapy, can cure anything from allergies to cancer.

        • shadowangel on 29/02/2020 - 11:52

          We live in thailand so buy water for everything. 1x 20lt will last a family maybe 2-3 days.

          So you need a significant amount to last a few weeks or a month.

          • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 11:53
            +1

            @shadowangel: Doesn't thailand rain a lot?

            The 15l/day isn't necessarily what you need to store. It is what you need to budget for. If you live next to a lake, you'd barely need much storage.

            • shadowangel on 29/02/2020 - 11:56

              @[Deactivated]: No only in rain season. We haven't had a drop since then. At least 4months maybe longer.

              You can't drink fresh water with out a good filter here.

              • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 12:07
                +1

                @shadowangel: Make a filter. You need clean sand (can do this by burning or worst case, bleach) and a plastic water drum.

                AFAIK, unless you live in parts of Africa or you are drawing water directly from the Genji river, sediment filtration is sufficient for replacing tap water. Boiling will ensure definite drinkability.

                Assuming the low end of average rainfall in Thailand, 1000mm, and assuming 100sqm of roof, that is 100,000l of rainwater per year. Ofcourse, you do not need that large a tank as you will be using water as it fills. You probably can get very high efficiency with a 35,000l tank.

                If you can capture and use the 100,000l/yr, a family of four can use almost 70l/pax/day.

                • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 19:25

                  @[Deactivated]: I would add a layer of gravel in there too. Possibly some activated charcoal or even some coal from the bonfire. Or would that be an overkill?

                  • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 23:00

                    @[Deactivated]: Overkill for rainwater.

    • 1Kenobi on 29/02/2020 - 07:28
      -1

      Why the epipen?

      • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 08:17
        +1

        Anaphylaxis and excessive blood loss.

    • burningrage on 29/02/2020 - 14:33

      Whats a 'Prepper'?

      • frugalftw on 29/02/2020 - 14:35
        +16

        A special type of human who are allowed to stash supplies in bunkers without being labelled as hoarders.

        • burningrage on 01/03/2020 - 12:44
          +1

          Thanks.

          Why does this remind me of that game called ZombiU?

      • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 15:16
        +7

        Essentially what frugalftw said.

        Hoarders except the food is not expired.

      • MrFrugalSpend on 29/02/2020 - 22:17
        +2

        Prepper as in someone who is Preparing for doomsday events… think bomb shelters, tinned food, generators, water supplies and defences for the infected / zombies / aliens / desperate fellow man etc… usually a bit eccentric

        • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 23:10
          +1

          Most if not all our ancestors were preppers.

          Mine definitely were. Their unprepared peers are all in the same mass grave.

          Learn from history.

          • User102430 on 01/03/2020 - 09:46
            +1

            @[Deactivated]: Interesting, what events are you referring to?

            My grandfather lived through two world wars.
            My uncle survived gulags of Siberia and returned home safely.

            Perhaps history is kinder to my family and I should take it easy.

            • frugalftw on 01/03/2020 - 10:03

              @User102430: Perhaps the take away is humans are pretty good at annihilating ourselves, and there hadn't be any natural disasters that could compete. This panic thread kinda proves that too. Now we have to deal with price hicks if everyone started to prep, the bandwagon falls and chaos ensues.

            • [Deactivated] on 02/03/2020 - 23:34

              @User102430: The events that involved gas chambers and mass graves.

              They were prepared. They had an escape route planned the moment the government compelled them to surrender their firearms.

              I am still surprised that people fall for, "taking away your guns for your safety", "don't panic", and "don't worry, you can trust me". Those words are always followed by memorable events.

        • resisting the urge on 01/03/2020 - 21:04
          +1

          ah yes, eccentric. Sounds like a rare specimen?!

          I prefer the 'proper' Def'n of Prepper: Someone who is 'properly prepared'

    • sarahlump on 29/02/2020 - 17:37

      Can I advise adding in tape to your first aid kit(that orange tape that smells really good like betadine). Many wounds are much easier to deal with by simply taping them closed. (habitual self harmer), stitches suck, just tape those suckers up, you only really need to deal with sutures for complicated structures or if tape won't work.

      Can I recommend including some books, solar panels, batteries and ebooks. books on topics such as agriculture, foraging, animal husbandry, textiles, etc and a TON of recreational books, like a terrabyte or two of just interesting books.(life is very boring without much to do).

      Water distillation kit.

      lots (LOTS) of the iodine salt.(don't want a goitre!)

      fishing rod and tackle. An oil press.

      hand tools.

      • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 22:58
        +1

        Fishing rod is actually not a good way to catch food. A cast net will is leaps and bounds better but illegal under normal circumstance.

      • josetann on 01/03/2020 - 12:30

        Super glue. It was originally made to close wounds, so in a pinch it should work (I'd still keep other first aid supplies handy). Plus it's useful for more than just first aid.

      • abb on 04/03/2020 - 15:26

        a terrabyte or two of just interesting books

        How fast do you read?

        All of wikipedia is ~80GB.
        Project Gutenburg (~60 000 books) is 54GB.

        I think a terabyte is vastly more than anyone could read in a lifetime.

    • sarahlump on 29/02/2020 - 18:03
      +3

      controversial, definitely illegal depending on your profession: Fentanyl. Not everybody wants to live through a big crisis.

      • sarahlump on 29/02/2020 - 18:03
        +4

        Also, dead family members and friends eat less food.

      • [Deactivated] on 29/02/2020 - 19:35

        In the end, it takes more courage to live than to die. Big crisis or not.

      • cannedhams on 29/02/2020 - 21:25
        +3

        Not a good choice, its actually a fairly unpleasant way to die. Nembutal would be better.

        • sarahlump on 01/03/2020 - 13:53

          I was assuming there wouldn't be any nitrogen tanks around for an exit bag. if you can get any means, go for it.

    • Ferretface26 on 29/02/2020 - 20:43

      15L a person per day seems high considering most people drink about 2 or less regularly. Or is this for bathing as well. I’d love to know how people find room to store 450L of water without a tank

      Edit: just saw this answered above.

    • MrFrugalSpend on 29/02/2020 - 22:14

      Now we just need links to deals on each of these items!

    • vasya on 02/03/2020 - 22:40

      Hey Tshow

      What first aid kit would you recommend and where to get it?

      Thank you.

      • [Deactivated] on 02/03/2020 - 23:30

        Sorry, I can't give you a recommendation as there are so many variables. A first aid kit in the car is different to one in a hiking bag or one in the house.

        Google and you'll find an appropriate sized kit. The most important thing is to be familiar with the contents and be comfortable with the techniques.

        None of my kits are store bought. My hunting kit is just a Plano lure case with gaffa, cable tie, epipen, gauze, scissors and betadine repackged in a small tube.

        Home kit is a tool box. I avoid zips as mentioned above.

    • Musing Outloud on 03/03/2020 - 20:13
      +1

      Shit Tonne or Fukton of firewood?!

  • MoonlapseVertigo on 27/02/2020 - 12:26
    +17

    alcohol. and weed. lots of it. and peanut butter and strawbery jam and bread (freeze the bread). I'm im going down, i'm going down high

    • Charlie Sierra on 27/02/2020 - 13:20
      +11

      Going down high - isn't that just going up?

      • MoonlapseVertigo on 27/02/2020 - 16:15
        +4

        not too sure…. but i like what you're saying. join me

        • Ash SA on 28/02/2020 - 12:41
          +1

          hard rock music to complete the lyrics. Go down rocking !!!

      • capslock janitor on 28/02/2020 - 23:09
        +4

        bruhhh…..deep

    • Donaldhump on 01/03/2020 - 17:19
      +2

      Where do you live, I’m ready

  • c64 on 27/02/2020 - 12:33
    +4

    I note toilet paper appears to be a valuable commodity in areas affected by the virus.

    i laugh at the coronavirus with my bum gun

    • crentist on 01/03/2020 - 15:10

      In Tokyo, can confirm toilet paper is nowhere to be found. My supplies are low. Might steal some from work.

      But the last big typhoon was much worse. Supermarkets were completely stripped, people stockpiled everything just in case.
      It was like half a day of rain. My plan was to join a typhoon party at a local bar.

      • Yamai on 02/03/2020 - 21:14

        No washlet?

        • crentist on 02/03/2020 - 21:22

          Building is a bit older, so no fancy toilet :(
          But yea wtf, this should be the one country where toilet paper is barely considered a daily necessity.

          Luckily I found a long forgotten stash of tissues, so I'm good. In a pinch I guess the showerhead is on a hose, but that seems like it'd just spread the problem around

  • Stimps on 27/02/2020 - 12:45
    +5

    I’ve just started to stockpile some essentials, mostly canned goods, rice and pasta. When the real panic buying starts in Australia I’ll be at home with my family thankful I took action early.

    • [Deactivated] on 27/02/2020 - 12:53

      Don't forget to check use by dates.

      Don't wait til the last few daya to donate those cans if they don't get used.

      I stock up a fair bit and I feel bad when I miss a batch and it goes to waste.

      • iDroid on 27/02/2020 - 17:00
        +24

        Cans? Dates?

        Pffft, this is OzBargain. Cans don't go out of date.

        • [Deactivated] on 27/02/2020 - 17:32

          I have a vintage can of creamer circa 1963. The can is worth something. All yours if you stomach the contents.

      • skittlebrau on 28/02/2020 - 16:15

        Probably worth setting calendar/reminder events in your phone for large batches I guess.

        • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2020 - 16:23

          Too impractical. I'd have reminders going off practically everyday for items probably already consumed.

          Also, I don't go with massive batches. I replenish when it is 50% off.

      • abb on 04/03/2020 - 16:46

        I stock up a fair bit and I feel bad when I miss a batch and it goes to waste.

        Clearly you never worked in retail ;)

        New stock goes at the back of the shelf.

        • [Deactivated] on 04/03/2020 - 16:53

          I have and I do.

          Sometimes we do not use a particular thing. For example, if we get a bumper crop of good tomatoes, the canned ones are forgotten. The entire inventory of canned tomatoes then go to waste.

          • abb on 04/03/2020 - 18:09

            @[Deactivated]: Must be a hell of a crop, I thought the limiting factor for canned food lifetime was rusting of the tin(-plated steel).

            But yeah happens to us sometimes too, stuff gets forgotten in the depths of the cupboard (and I'm not even a 'prepper'). We usually just eat it anyway haha

  • CyberMurning on 27/02/2020 - 12:53
    +11

    P0rn!!!!!

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