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Question; do people here take an antipyretic to quell a fever? I suspect there is a generational divide here.
Who wouldn't take one? What else would you use, a icepack?
I put an onion under my armpit. 2 negatives become a positive.
If your fever is too high, then you should take an antipyretic as it could damage your brain.
ok, good answer kwchaz
Inescent; so you would take one if your temperature was 39 degrees?
You probably should see the doctor if your fever is 39 degrees.
@meista: yep, I would definitely see a doc before taking an antipyretic
@knackers: ? What other antipyretic which is easily accessible over the counter are you aware of?
Paracetamol is a wonderful drug in many ways (when taken appropriately)
In the pre-covid19 era: If you have a fever (or believe you have one), i don't see any harm in taking 1g of paracetamol. If the fever persists then go to GP.
However in the current COVID19 era, if you have a fever and can access a thermometer and it's >38* + you have respiratory symptoms (cough, shortness or breath or sore throat) go immediately to a fever clinic - ensuring to distance yourself from family members / public.
@paraneoplastic: The World Health Org just removed a whole host of antipyretics from the list of therapeutics for the treatment of Covid 19, specifically anti-inflammatory drugs(aspirin, cortisone, ibuprofen). Paracetamol still remains…
There have been multiple studies on the adverse effects of paracetamol as it pertains to immune response… longer duration in virus shedding, 5% increase in mortality rate when administered to influenza patients.
I'm at the tail end of my covid 19 journey… so this sparked my interest.
@knackers: Enjoy frolicking through the deserted streets, without qualms, once you're clear.
@ProfessorBargain: my hunger is back… so i'm dying to sink into a burger
@knackers: Aspirin + Ibuprofen are mainly NSAIDs though, corticosteroids are prescription - and not pleasent medications to take.
The reason for precautions around NSAIDs is due to this SARS strain possibly impacting renal function - however this is yet to be proven, and only correlations have been made with people who took NSAIDs and had morbidity/mortality as a result - no causative relationship has been found (at least to my understanding)
Could you link some of those studies, as from the short time i've been practicing it's always been the go to for patients to take paracetamol to manage symptoms?
A brief search on pubmed showed this: a NZ RCT disproves all the points you raised: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26638130
@paraneoplastic: I'll find the studies and PM ya
Personally I would, unless for some reason you wouldn't be able to.
@Inescent: Our febrile response(something we share with all animals) is our first (and in some cases our only) defence against viral or bacterial infection. A one degree increase in body temperature equates to a 13% increase in metabolic rate, which becomes a catalyst for the increase in production of virus hunting antibodies. An increase in body temperature has a secondary beneficial effect, it places the viral agent in an undesirable environment.
So unless there is an underlining health issue or temperature levels go above 40 degrees why apply the brakes on an accelerated immune response??
The risk with Covid 19 is not hyperpyrexia(most people are reporting mild to moderate fevers)…. it's day 6- 7 when an unchecked virus finds it's way into your lungs.
@knackers: Even if that is the case, most people don't want to be in pain and discomfort. But whatever floats your boat. Speaking in terms of fevers in general and not specifically COVID-19 related fevers.
@Inescent: Such a frivolous argument, sometimes you just have a hangover.
Hoping this goes nationwide, I missed the last 69c deal and have run out since.
What's the difference between this and Panadol?
Panadol sell a version coated in a thin layer so you don't have to taste it, might be easier to swallow. But it's all the same active ingredient.
Why is this much cheaper than Panadol?
Panadol is brand name, you pay for the brand name.
Paracetamol has been out of licence for a very long time; cost per pill to make is usually in the single digit cents per dose; and a dose is often 2 pills.
People like brand names; the medication is identical unless you get Osteo (slow release coating) or Rapid (mixed with soda) and there's another with caffiene mixed in also…
But if you just want the normal 'panadol', same thing,
Yep the massive mark-up is all for marketing. I like to pay the minimum for my 500mg of Paracetamol.
Putting aside all those caffeine (which i can get from coffee) or rapid (which I can get from Cola), is the absorption speed ie to have it come to effect the same?
Dissolution of the tablet has an effect on how fast it can absorb into your body and take effect. The slower the dissolution the slower onset of effects. Dissolution of tablets are based on excipients (bulking agents, glidants and disintegrants). Panadol has more disintegrants in their formulations than cheaper paracetamol brands.
@Inescent: In saying that; if a tablet has a 'break' line in it; that USUALLY means its not time release.
Basic pracetamol is not time release.
So you can snap 2 tablets into 4 and have it dissolve faster.
@MasterScythe: You can do that to any immediate release paracetamol, thats correct. However the dissolving time of the tablet can vary. With that being said all tablets must dissolve in <15 minutes by british pharmacopoeia guidelines no matter the brand. But time is money for some people and thats what panadol offers and charges for its brand and formulation.
@Inescent: So at worst case, Panamax's rate is only 15 mins? I think I can wait to save that much dollars in saving compared to paying for Panadol
What bad timing.
I just bought some yesterday and they had the cheek to tell me I saved $2.50.
Great idea to bring people into stores!
CAN YOU GREEDY GUTS JUST NOT PLEASE? TAKE ONE FOR YOUR FAMILY ONLY IF YOU NEED IT AND NO MORE. DON'T GO BACK A SECOND GO, DON'T TELL YOUR PARTNER TO GET ONE TOO. DON'T STORE IT AT HOME FOR NO REASON.
I WORK AT A MAJOR SYDNEY HOSPITAL AND IF YOU TOLD ME A MONTH AGO THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PARACETAMOL SHORTAGE I WOULDN'T HAVE BELIEVED YOU. PEOPLE ACTUALLY NEEDING IT NOT GETTING IT SO IT CAN SIT IN YOUR CUPBOARDS.
DON'T HOARD MEDICINE. IT'S UNAUSTRALIAN.
It is so un-Australian it's being shipped to Hong Kong!
Hospitals will always get preferential distribution from manufacterers and distribution centers… There will not be a paracetamol shortage, if your hospital had a shortage that's a ordering departments fault. We have multiple Aussie manufacturers, paracetamol is a very simple drug to synthesize.
The more pressing thing is don't hoard or bombard GP's trying to get a script for hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin (unless you have an autoimmune condition/ STI or macrolide-sensitive bacterial infection of course)
What if your partner gets headaches too?
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But why, what are you going to do with so much paracetamol? (unless you have a chronic pain disorder)
meant to be a joke
have seen chinese people done it in the past on youtube and facebook with milk powder
i'll give myself the
While I understand this is bargain forum, keep in mind this product is pretty much sold out Australia wide (at wholesaler level), Chemist warehouse buys all the stock in Australia - sells it at a loss - pretty much wipes out every smaller community pharmacy in Australia over time.
I'm all up for a bargain but this predatory pricing at its best.
Do you have a source for that? Do you mean panamax the brand or paracetamol in general? That seems absurd if it's paracetamol.
I would think it would be predatory pricing if it was constant, but this i would consider to be a loss leader. Similar but different ballpark.
If Chemist Warehouse "buys all the stock in Australia" then how come it's available at Pharmacy 4 Less and a bunch of online pharmacies?
Wholesaler level - out of stock - any stock remaining in Pharmacies is stock from 1-2 weeks ago. Even when it becomes available for "regular" pharmacies it is a constrained supply line, which means very few units can be ordered from the wholesalers even if they have stock (which they don't), meanwhile Chemist Warehouse sits on 3,000,000 boxes which they sell at a loss. Source: I have a financial interest in a Pharmacy.
Edit: Looks like Pharmacy4 is out of stock.
paracetamol is cheap as chips.