I just went shopping. It's much quieter today than I expected but still there are lots of opportunities for breathing on each other as we pass in opposing directions within the aisles.
Considering the markings for distancing at the checkouts I wonder why they've not marked the aisles as one way? People would still pass each other but I can only imagine there would be much less contact / interaction. Anyone have any ideas? Am I missing something basic here?
How do you think it will work Zeggie? I thought they would open in full lockdown.
Online ordering which does make sense.
Delivery or drive up pickup. Part of the reason they're mass hiring staff - at least that's my educated guess.
In other countries they limit the number in the store at any one time
True. Other countries are doing that. The same countries facing enormous numbers of infected that are more than their health services can handle.
The virus can live on surfaces for days. Supermarkets are cesspools. Best to keep people out of them.
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: People still have to eat and get supplies. What do you propose if not supermarkets?
It would help if we understood the profile of infection. How much risk is there in shopping if we are really social isolating and using sanitiser?
People still have to eat and get supplies. What do you propose if not supermarkets?
Did you read my post above? Delivery or drive up pickup. Currently in use or being introduced by majors overseas.
It would help if we understood the profile of infection. How much risk is there in shopping if we are really social isolating and using sanitiser?
Huge risk. Viral shedding. Just sanitising your hands doesn't make your invulnerable.
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: With drive through you still have to have a massive number of people packing your groceries. You have to hope none of the people touching your stuff is contaminating it. How are you sanitising everything you are getting through the drive through given you are, probably, putting it down on your counter tops when you get home? Sanitising does not make you invulnerable, apparently.
Now, please provide me with some scientific studies that indicate social distancing is resulting in Coronavirus cases. Please provide information on the process of transmission when you maintain the correct distances and the people around you aren’t coughing and sneezing and you aren’t touching things. Just saying “huge risk” and “viral shedding” isn’t providing anything factual and backed up. The initial discussions on transmission involved reasonably close contact for a decent length of time, not passing someone in the street or standing the nominated distance away in a queue.
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: You want to be a bit more specific on my actual questions?
Then again, you probably don’t.
Then again, you probably don’t.
Correct. I'm not your teacher. I'm not your employee instructed to conduct a business case study. It's my opinion, based on observations and literature, posted on a BARGAIN website.
I don't have to prove shit to you :)
Well Ikea does it… sort of…
Well so I have heard, but nobody has ever made it out of there. lol
Thats where you are taken to self isolate for 14 days
elgrande….Don't you mean SHELF isolation….lol (not making light of the situation…but we can't stop living…we are aussies) xx
In Bunnings store this afternoon, signs stating that there was a limit of 4 customers in each aisle, strictly enforced, at the end of aisle.
Lol strictly enforced. Went there yesterday and they pretty much gave up. Ended up having 20 people in the paint area. Most of the staff were too shy/nervous to ask people to leave.
My local Bunnings seemed to be okay, customers were complying, not too many people in store, may have been timing. The Aldi store had 2 security guards enforcing how many customers in store at any given time.
Had to queue up 5 minutes to get into Bunnings today.
Guess the snags are off too?
Brilliant idea! Post it all over their socials, stat!
I ventured out yesterday to Coles for essentials and people were greeting other locals they know in the aisles and having nice, long conversations, in close proximity to each other.
I also think the self-checkout section should be closed in some stores as there is barely adequate room to manoeuvre at the best of times, forget about being able to follow the physical distancing guidelines.
I think some stores have taken to shutting down some checkout computers in order to force people to use every second machine to encourage distancing.
Good to know. If only all stores were consistent with these initiatives.
Yep, even the manned registers at one Kmart (at least) were turned into self-serve. As in, a human replacing pre-recorded voiceovers where you still scan your goods and pay yourself. Was even told to keep those plastic coat hangers.
Woolworths still isn't stopping people with full trolleys from using them. They can't seem to realize that it's better to have 1 person with a trolley queueing for a regular register instead of a dozen people with one or two items queueing for the self-serve checkouts.
great idea, on another not why tf arent staff wearing masks?, and why does woolworths and coles offer to wipe your trolley on the inside of the shop after you have clearly alreay had to touch it move it there… some pretty dumb shit being displayed.
At my Woolworths the staff were told they're not allowed to…
i find that hard to believe, you can wear what you want, what company would want to get sued for denying them the right to wear it
I told the guy to complain. One sick checkout attendant can also be a risk to society.
It's become one of the highest risk jobs in terms of health and safety from toilet paper hunters.
A lot of smokers can't be bothered using an ashtray for their butts & many dog owners don't have enough respect to pick up after their dog.
Doubt humans will follow a one way sign in a supermarket
Perhaps some of those additional supermarket jobs should be allocated to aisle traffic control roles
So if I forget something I have to go down every aisle again after I get to the end? No thanks.
Yeah maybe that's what I'm missing. Surely the powers that be have work weighed these things up.
Guess what thevofa, Woolies is rolling out one way aisles as of yesterday :)
Yes, but no different to driving
Surely the end rows would be a bit wider and bi-directional?
No, just the next one and turn back into the start of the previous one I'd say.
lol our vego warrior is a super thug online, but a scaredy cat IRL
roflmao, as expected.
Vego? Probably the dirtiest insult a vegan can receive. All that other stuff you wrote means nothing after that.
vego warrior
Um I think he's talking about Vigo the Carpathian, the Scourge of Carpathia, the Sorrow of Moldavia. Also known as Vigo the Cruel, Vigo the Torturer, Vigo the Despised, and Vigo the Unholy.
LOL conservatives so triggered by nothing.
To make up for it they pretend to be master trolls but it's usually weak as piss.
Imagine being stuck being one of those indecisive shoppers. It would take forever to buy a couple of items.
You can still overtake / pass.
No you can't as the width of the aisle is less than 3m+. So impossible to overtake safely , which is also the whole point of asking to make them one-way.
You have to pass people as there will be staff filling shelves at least somewhere in the supermarket.
In the shops this rule is broken continuously anyway.
Today I also felt it much more confrontational with "head on" meetings. IMO the distancing is, apart from a logistical nuisance, somewhat of a social difficulty. Here we are trying to respect each other and be decent, yet by necessity we encroach each other's space. Passing others from behind doesn't feel the same to me - there's no / less eye contact during that encroachment yet good opportunity for a quick "Excuse me" if need be, plus that's gotta be better than breathing face to face.
I don’t think it is that virulent that just passing another shopper will spread it to you. You could always turn your face to the shelves, as you pass, if you are concerned.
Decide on your shopping online then go to the aisle and pickup your items. Quick and safe for times like this.
I just came here to congratulate you on knowing how to spell aisles!
If you accidentally walk past the weetbix, you have to do a lap of the store 🙄
Why?
Just yell at person behind you to throw them to you
You can't double dip.
Hardly an issue, haven't sighted any weetbix for over two weeks.
The end aisles will also have to be one way. Imagine you miss 4 and end up at 5 then having to go all the way around again. People aren't good with directions these days.
Maybe supermarket gps app is going to take off soon.
Great idea but given people can’t figure out one way roads in the shopping centre carpark they ain’t gonna have much hope in the supermarket.
People strolling in for one item would just walk straight against traffic to get it.
A good idea OP
Terrible idea, I'm going in to grab something 1/4 of the way down an aisle. I don't wanna walk all the way down one aisle to then turn around and walk all the way back another aisle to get the thing I wanted.
Agreed. Turning it into a maze means your shopping trip will take 4 times as long.
That's the attitude that will extend this situation for longer.
you'd still have to go past people, but not a bad idea IMO.
The problem with this is supermarkets already remove more money from you by encouraging you to go to fruit and veg first, then meat, then staples, then home products and frozen last.
Currently the way to beat this is walk the other way.
You do know nearly every store has more than one entrance?
Went into a Coles Express, the other day, and some numpty had blocked off the usual “in” entrance so people coming in, and leaving, had to go past each other through the self service checkouts. People. including ourselves, were saying how ridiculous this was. I noticed they were unblocking the entrance when we were leaving. I’m not sure if they were worried about shop lifters but that was ludicrous.
Great idea, if everyone were to travel at the same speed without overtaking, which I admit is unlikely, there could be dozens of people in the store but you'd be near only a few people.
Another thing that would help us for the shops to rearrange things temporarily to put the staples like bread and milk near the front to minimise the distance needed to travel for those just getting the essentials.
All the essentials in one spot so everyone goes to the same spot? What an excellent idea.
Instead of everyone going to the same two spots at different sides of the back wall of the supermarket and walking the length and breadth of the supermarket twice? YES, an EXCELLENT idea.
And if you forget an item…. what do you propose in your ordered world?
Better to limit numbers in any shop or supermarket
The government has just announced (Sunday night) social gatherings are now limited to 2 people
I would imagine that this MUST have flow-on effects on the safe number of people in a shop
Most shops already have markers for the socially acceptable distances. I saw shops today that were talking about limits. Costco, Docklands, had a few, well behaved, customers and it did have toilet paper. This contrasts enormously with the last time I was in there, when it was a zoo.
My EB Games had a limit of 2 customers in the store . Too bad they couldn’t get any customer’s .
Sounds like a solution to a Sydney problem.
Supermarkets in Melbourne are set out in a Hoddle Grid. The only issue is that some aisles require a hook turn.
If there is no one else in the aisle I ignore that. I’m not going to go all the way around, to come in the other way including the crowded ends of the aisles.
Not missing anything at all. I think it's a great idea. Problem is there's always the chance we cannot physically go inside Colesworth in the near future.