It's official, I lost my job. I was in marketing. I've decided I want to study for a change.
What do you guys recommend for a quick course (12 monthsish) and good employment prospects??
Im based in vic btw.
Came across this website https://careerprogress.com.au/ which has a few things listed.
Got any other good resources?
Sigh worst day ever.
Came across this website https://careerprogress.com.au/ which has a few things listed
https://careerprogress.com.au/about-us/ They can't properly pluralise "Australian" so I would not trust this website for educational advice… Also doesn't explain who Damian is, what his qualifications are, and if he is getting some kind of commission to steer you to dodgy private colleges?
https://joboutlook.gov.au/ is the government stats for employment prospects, and https://www.compared.edu.au/ the government one for comparing educational institutions
Are you saying you don't trust their founder 'Damien'?
I was going to say that OP works as a Marketing Assistant for careerprogress.com.au. Why join a forum for bargains when looking for a career change?
I heard https://careerprogress.com.au/ was a scam site that tries to astroturf by posting comments on other websites, and that they will take your money and leave you with nothing.
Can't say if that is the case, as only a fool would give them money with that sort of rumour around.
Aim higher, university maybe. There might be places with reduced international students. The economy is shot for longer than 12 months anyhow.
A specific course that I'd flog? Accounting - bear with me.
I think you can still do a full time 6m TAFE cert IV which can translate to a diploma by the end of the year. By the end of that year, you have a good insight into;
Accounting for individuals and entities
Budgeting
How to prepare a BAS
How to prepare a tax return for individuals
Basic financial reporting
Operational and Business plans
Intermediate bookkeeping
Company laws and compliance
Record keeping in MYOB
These things, even if you don't want to be an accountant, form a pretty solid base if you want to go into business for yourself down the track, and the modular nature of the course means that there's plenty of stepping off points. At the absolute worst, book keepers and tax agents always have positions available, because there's always going to be tax.
Really sorry about your job, it's hard to be on this side of it no matter what's going on in the world.
Psychology. You'll probably find it fascinating given your experience in marketing already.
It'll probably be fascinating but it's not short and won't lead to good job prospects. Most first year uni psychology units are broad and heavily focuses on research methodology.
Exactly. What part of a psych degree is 1 year? Try 6 years before you can practice.
Sorry to hear about your job situation. However, your question is ambiguous as asking OZB what your favourite colour should be.
I'd suggest you self-assess and perform some personality tests or similar to see where your current or potential skill sets / personality traits are and go from there.
You could do as you say and study for the next 12 months but if its in a course that doesn't work for you (or you're just doing it to pass the time or hopefully as a quick fix), then it's possible that having a certificate won't necessarily mean you're in any way more employable than now. From my experience, the weaknesses of people often come out during interviews. Eg. I've interviewed many that think just because they have the qualification, that they're entitled to the job. The qualification just gets you to the interview, keeping in mind that everyone that applies generally has the qualification.
Unfortunately we're in a situation where a lot of people are unemployed and so the competition is a lot greater.
what your favourite colour should be
Blue. No wait, green.
Pick a trade.
Aka which part of your body do you want to permanently damage over time to gain income?
Every job is going to impact on you, whether physically (which I assume you're implying), mentally, emotionally, time away from family..
Well, not everyone can be a centerlinker.
Not if you follow correct manual handling and use of tools….
Easily said.
Hmmm?
Which trade? Some trades are hard to get in to at the best of times.
@twww: Well, I am not advising OP seek a double degree law and aim to be a QC, or go into specialized medicine so relative to that, picking up a trade is very attainable.
How does one learn a trade as an adult, I am genuinely curious about this
There are adult apprenticeships which attract government support.
Sorry to hear you lost your job. It's an awful feeling, and one that hits you in a funny place. But know that this will pass.
In the meantime, have a read of this article, and have a good think.
It's not a short article, but you've probably got the time. Good luck. Don't despair.
Have you worked out if you are eligible for any financial support as a student? Note that if you have a partner then Austudy is income tested.
This is because the Government tries to apply benefits as unfairly as possible.
the Government tries to apply benefits as unfairly as possible
Or with, you know, strict eligibility criteria so limited welfare prioritises those who need it most?
I hope you’re joking
What’s your alternative? That the stay at home wife of a surgeon can claim the dole or Austudy?
@mskeggs: Maybe the wife of an essential worker like a nurse, teacher or prison guard. Cos i can tell you theyre not eligible right now, even though theyre risking their heslth in the community
A quick trade to get into could be 'test and tagging' electrical appliances for industry. I think there is even a 'Jim's test and tag'. The course is quick, but the machines can be expensive if you want an automated tag dispenser. My work pays $5 per item tested every month. It could be lucrative.
The market is generally saturated already - was lucrative to get into a few years ago, not so much now.
As an electrician, I would say this is one of the most mind numbing tasks you could do, but it would pay the bills.
The guy who does it at our work travels around each site in a van with a surfboard, going up and down the coast, surfing after each job.
Sounds like he has worked out a good way to make the day interesting then
Sorry to hear you lost your job. I think it's worth doing the skills Match for possible career moves. Alternatively, the career quiz is also worth looking to see what jobs you might like.
I was in marketing. I've decided I want to study for a change.
If you like your career/field, you should stay in it and capitalise on your current skilset. There's no point doing a quick course with good employment benefits if you're going to dread going into work everyday.
Depending on what your interests are , either a pre-apprenticeship followed by an apprenticeship or a graduate diploma. Grad dips usually take 1.5years to complete but in some circumstances, can be fast-tracked to 1 yr.
Source: The missus completed a Grad dip in Forensic psychology in 1 year . She was awarded credits for the 2 elective units and 1 compulsory unit and spread the 7 remaining units over 2 semesters. Totally doable, if you're motivated enough.
Hello fellow jobless marketer!
I've been contemplating a move away from marketing for a while now, and current circumstances have somewhat forced me to give it real thought. I really enjoy the digital side of marketing, but for many reasons I found it a tough industry to progress in, not least being the oversaturation of so-called 'marketers' (and let's face it, it doesn't take a lot to get an adwords certification and suddenly you can call yourself a digital marketer). I've taken interest in technical seo and website content management, so that's leading me to a likely pivot into Web development.
I'm using my new found free time for independent study (loving freecodecamp.org, that's a solid and well-structured learning resource), and I'm looking to soon start an in-person course just to bolster those skills and help fill any knowledge gaps. If that's of interest to you, many boot camps can get you career-ready in 6-10 months, though they do come with hefty tuition fees (10-15k).
No one can tell you what you should study. Look instead at whatever interests you and what skills you have that could facilitate a pivot. Coming from marketing, with not a lot of reskilling you could potentially do business administration, accounting, sales, account management, content management, design, development, project management, user experience, customer experience…
Take up a trade. Personally I'd choose carpentry as many licenced builders come from a carpentry background. Plumbers make good money once qualified and electricians are often in demand.
You could do an apprenticeship as an adult.
I've advised high school students in the past.
The military is an option, although if you think its automatic entry or you will get the job you want, think again. I had one Year 11 student that got into ADFA, and another whose initial testing was so bad he withdrew his application.
Then there are jobs with barriers to entry - hair dresser, enrolled nurse, aged care workers, machinist, draftsman, advanced manufacturing, logistics.
Some trades can be in demand. Construction is 10% of the economy.
The "professions" include accountant, doctor, lawyer, vet, teacher, nurse, engineer. These need 3+ years of study + often postgrad study.
The professions where you are most likely not to find a job (and work in another area) are agriculture & science.
Become a tutor.
It was my way out of corporate slavery. And it's not horrible (which in comparison with corporate slavery, implies that tutoring is freaking amazing).
Where did you work before? What didn't you like about it?
Sales, hospitality, office paper pushing.
No serious jobs really. But I guess I never did want a serious job.
I think I didn't like having to turn up to a place, and do what someone told me to do.
That just about covers it for the vast majority of jobs that aren't working for yourself.
LLM in jurisprudence
Go for studing basic website developing, opportunities lie at the crossroad of the coding and marketing. Imagine how amazing would it be to launch your own online business, having this marketing pedigree.
What were your previous qualifications?
What do you like/dislike? What can you see yourself actually doing?