[AMA] I'm an Australian Working in The US, AMA

Ldown-under on 03/05/2020 - 13:09
Last edited 17/05/2020 - 14:55

Long time lurker, first time poster. Now seems to be an interesting time to do this AMA :). Hope I can answer all your China / Chinese related questions.

Currently working in software related area, but I had experiences in different industries across different disciplines, and recently thinking about starting an aquaculture business.

Of course, I'm not representing any groups, and all my answers will be my personal opinions.

Edit: Just before the post is locked, I changed the title from Chinese Australian to Australian, I know in Oz we care more about country of citizenship than race, and I like it :) (In the US it’s a bit different)

Introduce Yourself

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    • ItsMeAgro on 04/05/2020 - 09:55
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      MJ or LBJ

      MJ for sure. I mean, why would Spider-man even date Lyndon B Johnson?

    • down-under on 03/05/2020 - 14:35
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      I'm not sure what this is… If you mean if government told factories to lie to the people in Hubei and Guangdong, no, that's impossible, yeah the government hides lots of things, but this one is simply not even remotely possible…

        • down-under on 03/05/2020 - 14:55
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          I was not there so I'm not sure what exactly happened.

          Telling people to have an extended new year holiday is possible, but it could be just a wording thing, not trying to hide anything, I can confirm (at least) 1 day before the Chinese new year was the day everyone became aware of the virus. And I personally didn't hear anyone yelling on social media about the super long holiday… So not very likely.

          But if you have more information like time, company name, etc. I might be able to ask around and see if I can find something.

          • ATangk on 03/05/2020 - 22:23
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            @down-under: It was extended public holiday because public holidays in China are practically shutdowns of everything. Not sure what Frugal Rock is going on about, but there surely wasnt very much celebration going on. It was all stay at home and do nothing unless you must. Wonder where he gets his news from. My source is me physically being present in Shanghai during that time…

              • down-under on 04/05/2020 - 09:20
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                @[Deactivated]: I got what you are saying, if that happened, I will just class it as a bad PR, not a discipline problem. For 2020, I can ignore it…

                • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 09:37
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                  @down-under: No idea what he is going on about… reading too much propaganda?

              • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 09:36
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                @[Deactivated]: Everyone knew about the coronavirus in China since the 17th January. Extending the public holiday isnt to cover up the situation, its to keep people away from mass gatherings.

                If you would like to know the reason why its extending the public holiday, its because during Lunar New Year, families travel home from across the country. By saying extending, it is keeping people at their hometowns and restricting their travel. If they ended it there, people would be rushing to get back to work. It is in everyone's best interest to stop travel and one way is to say that the festivities are continuing, since the overland transport options were being scaled back etc.

                Its clear that it isnt a PR or saving international face move, its just that you have completely misunderstood the intentions. Factories are NEVER open during lockdown, in fact the opposite is true. There were doctors and medical personel ordered back from public holidays to work, giving a hazard pay of 300rmb/day (something other countries cant attest to), and factories making PPE were ordered back to resume working.

                • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 11:17
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                  @ATangk: No, you misunderstand entirely. I said "multiple electronics factories in Guangdong that were suddenly told by the state to close within hours of notice."

                  yet you think:

                  "Factories are NEVER open during lockdown"

                  Duh, is that some sort of revelation? That's not my misunderstanding, that's your statement of the bleeding obvious. Postage was shut, too, yet the party line was extended New Year celebration. Sellers rushing to prevent orders and close online operations. It was far too fast and coordinated to be voluntary. It was government order, yet where was the state of emergency? China is still, today, upset at travel restrictions imposed back then. Why would areas subject to total lockdowns be upset at travel restrictions? According to you, when did China declare state of emergency internationally? They were too busy fighting with Australia over travel restrictions, at the time. To. Save. Face.

                  Happy 'extended Australia Day' and what are your thoughts on Ai Fen and Li Wenliang? I need to baseline apparatchik numbers.

                  • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 14:02
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                    @[Deactivated]: I still dont understand your point. State of emergency is not done by China because China is a nation. Each state (or more precisely, province) had their own emergency protocols. Hubei was an obvious lockdown, but also Zhejiang and other provinces had their lockdowns. Yes its blindingly obvious it was a government order, hence it was a government lockdown. Why are you so caught up in semantics of an extended public holiday? The point is everything is shut, not that they are celebrating. The streets were dead, very few people were celebrating at all; it was very much fear in the streets everywhere.

                    • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 14:04
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                      @ATangk: LOL at your lack of understanding of the word 'state' in that context.

                      • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 14:05
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                        @[Deactivated]: You're probably sitting at home enjoying your Jobseeker/Jobkeeper payout whilst enjoying your month long 'public holiday' by the sounds of it.

                        • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 14:08
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                          @ATangk: Do you think understanding a word is a sure sign of Jobkeeper/Jobseeker? You wouldn't understand the term means testing if I drew you a picture.

                          • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 14:11
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                            @[Deactivated]: Its because you still didn't read what I said. The state of emergencies were declared by each of the provinces individually, why do you think they didnt? Hence, CHINA didn't do it internationally because you couldnt read Chinese and nobody translated it for you.

                            • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 14:13
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                              @ATangk: Hey, my Chinese is comparable to your understanding of the word 'state'!

                              • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 14:23
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                                @[Deactivated]: I didn't know your chinese was perfect.

                                I clearly explained everything about the state of the provinces announcements of their own state of emergency - no it did not come all in at the same time but thats because of how the governments there operate as separate entities. Fun fact, Zhejiang implemented their state of emergency before Hubei.

                                • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 14:29
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                                  @ATangk: Yet this week, China is describing Australia as 'gum on the shoe' by state sponsored media for travel restrictions to affected provinces. Ridiculous. China should have been proactively banning outward travel from covid affected regions, but they didn't, for fear of international appearance.

                                  • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 14:37
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                                    @[Deactivated]: That's got nothing to do with the previous statements…

                                    But China has since moved on from the coronavirus and practically opened up again. Similar to the US, but without all the mounting death cases. All entrants to the country need 2 week quarantine, something that Australia had copied. Moving between provinces also nets you a 2 week quarantine.

                                    As for gum on the shoe, you can always remove gum by rubbing your shoe on concrete, or throwing it in the freezer. You move on but the gum is left behind. But if there was no gum in the first place, or wrap your gum in the gum wrapper and then throwing it away, we wouldnt have these issues. I hated the underside of school desks.

                                    • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 14:42
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                                      @ATangk: Well no. Have you read US secretary of state Pompeo's comments about China last night? The thought of this matter being water under the bridge simply will not happen. What will happen when the US impose a trillion bucks of tariffs on China? What do you think is the true death count from covid in China?

                                      • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 15:10
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                                        @[Deactivated]: Trump and anyone in his posse is not in a position to say anything on the global stage. I can tell you the true death count in China is significantly lower than the true death count in the US. Also, the US owe over 1 trillion USD to China… https://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt

                                        • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 15:27
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                                          @ATangk: Do you believe the stories about massive queues at Chinese funeral homes delivering cremated remains to families after the lockdown lifted, hundreds at a time? That urns were ordered in their many 10s of thousands. I think a true Chinese death count exceeding 40,000 is probably accurate, China under-reporting their number massively.

                                          • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 15:28
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                                            @[Deactivated]: 40,000 is still less than US deaths. And the US number isnt accurate either because they aren't counting those deceased in their own homes.

                                            • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 15:49
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                                              @ATangk: The difference is, though, that China has the funeral home data, the names, the families of victims. Their figure is verifiable right now. The US has bodies festering in U-Haul trucks.

                                              Interestingly, reputed university UC Berkeley says air pollution kills an average of 4,000 Chinese per day. About 10 million deaths from any cause every year. Lockdown, postage shutdowns etc of trade powerhouses like Shenzhen over a measly few hundred deaths doesn't really make sense. China has more cases of upper respiratory distress than their reported covid figures on just an average, pre-covid day.

                                              • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 16:07
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                                                @[Deactivated]: Place with large population has high number of deaths from other causes. Surprise surprise. Same goes for India, Brazil and a mountain of other places. People don't die from old age like they used to, so they need to pass somehow.

                                                Lockdown, postage shutdowns etc of trade powerhouses like Shenzhen over a measly few hundred deaths doesn't really make sense

                                                This is so stupid. Next thing you're going to tell me is that Trump is right for calling the gun-wielding protestors in Michigan as 'well-behaved citizens' who deserve to be free. China remembers SARS.

                                                • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 16:31
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                                                  @ATangk: Poor reductio ad Trump attempt to deflect attention away from China's campaign of disinformation. You deserve double social credit points for your national service.

                                                  • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 16:50
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                                                    @[Deactivated]: Poor form of you to come in with a ridiculous statement questioning the lockdown like that and then try to take the upper moral ground. Their campaign of disinformation has nothing to do with the ridiculous statement you brought up. Try to stay on track?

                                                    • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 17:01
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                                                      @ATangk: If the region was in lockdown, why was China upset of Australia's travel ban to locked down regions?

                                                      • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 17:11
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                                                        @[Deactivated]: Because not every region was locked down? Why did you mention the "trade powerhouse of Shenzhen" if you were are so supportive of the lockdown. Your position is all over the place…

                                                        • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 17:31
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                                                          @ATangk: Lol, the travel bans were to airports INSIDE the locked down provinces. You have no idea what you are even talking about. Beijing was NOT, at the time. The Chinese outrage over original travel bans was over two dropped routes that you admit were locked down regions. There were internal restrictions preventing travel within China but they were insulted and outraged about international bans. It was all about saving face. Have a look at the timeline. Own it.

                                                          • ATangk on 04/05/2020 - 17:44
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                                                            @[Deactivated]: The travel bans they were protesting is clearly not the ones for the locked down provinces. China was more stringent on lockdown travel restrictions than any western country. No movement in or out except for medical workers and food supply.

                                                            None of this ‘you are exempt if you are a citizen, or if you happen to play NRL’. A proper lockdown. Cities turned to ghost towns, not like how busy the roads are in Sydney and Melbourne…

                                                            • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 18:05
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                                                              @ATangk: At that time, China was busy pressuring the WHO to say that travel bans don't have have an effect on virus transmission. Obviously that advice only applies to affected regions. The WHO was also busy minimising the risk, saying person to person transmission risk was low, just animal to human/zoonautic transmission. Why didn't China correct all those incorrect statements about person to person transmission?

                      • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 14:06
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                        @[Deactivated]: My state of undress is Victoria! :p

              • Chaser75 on 04/05/2020 - 11:51
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                @[Deactivated]: Didn't we "extend the school holidays" here?

                • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 12:04

                  @Chaser75: Not as a formal public holiday, no.

                  https://info.australia.gov.au/about-australia/special-dates-…

                  Maybe there will be a Spratly Islands foundation day, soon!

                  • Chaser75 on 04/05/2020 - 12:48
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                    @[Deactivated]: Not sure what you're talking about. School holiday breaks are not public holidays (I wish they were!) although they may fall during the school break.

                    • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 12:58
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                      @Chaser75: Yes, you certainly seem pretty confused. School holidays are definitely not public holidays. You were wrong.

                      "Can you name a single other country that has called strict lockdowns 'extended public holidays'."

                      • Chaser75 on 04/05/2020 - 13:18
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                        @[Deactivated]: Yep. My apologies, I didn't read you post carefully enough.
                        I was just trying to point out that it may be just semantics and not sure if you reading too much into that bit of phrasing, probably used more for convenience.
                        Anyway the important thing is we beat this thing first and then look at trying to prevent it happening again.

                      • gmail92 on 04/05/2020 - 14:15
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                        @[Deactivated]: Dunno why you are asking dumb asf questions which is not remotely related to OP.

                        • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 14:19
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                          @gmail92: OP: "Hope I can answer all your China / Chinese related questions."

                          It's important to seasonally adjust for Weibo whitewashing.

                          PS 'Are not', dumb asf. You're welcome, and get back to your millenial homeschooling!

                          • gmail92 on 04/05/2020 - 18:57
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                            @[Deactivated]: You bloody are lmao. Keep those silly questions coming!

                            • [Deactivated] on 05/05/2020 - 12:22
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                              @gmail92: Can do, dumb asf! Why did China advise the World Health Organisation that human to human transmission was not a risk?

                              "Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan"

                              — WHO Tweet.

                              "In the six days after top Chinese officials secretly determined they likely were facing a pandemic from a new coronavirus, the city of Wuhan at the epicenter of the disease hosted a mass banquet for tens of thousands of people; millions began traveling through for Lunar New Year celebrations."

                              "But what is clear, experts say, is that China’s rigid controls on information, bureaucratic hurdles and a reluctance to send bad news up the chain of command muffled early warnings. The punishment of eight doctors for “rumor-mongering,” broadcast on national television on Jan. 2, sent a chill through the city’s hospitals."

                              — Associated Press

                              • ATangk on 05/05/2020 - 23:30
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                                @[Deactivated]: Time and time again, I must make it clear to everyone:

                                No clear evidence that something occurs does not mean it doesnt happen. Let me give an example.

                                One day at work the boss finds that someone has stolen from the cookie jar outside of strict break times. Police are called (wow) and the boss tells them that Karen is usually seen with cookies at her desk. However, there are 100 people at the company and there is no video footage or witness statements that Karen was the one who stole the cookies. The boss claims that Karen did it, but the police are objective, and without solid trails, claim that there is no clear evidence that Karen stole the cookies. But Karen did steal the cookies, there was just no clear evidence to prove it.

                                Don't get confused between no clear evidence that there is no human to human transmission, and saying that human to human transmission is a risk. If the world operated on what-ifs, we might as well never have left the house in the first place and not live.

                              • [Deactivated] on 06/05/2020 - 02:22
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                                @[Deactivated]: Can you stop posting shit like this under the guise of a newfound and incredibly selective concern for misinformation from governments and just admit that you're a low key racist? You seem to incessantly make wry and derisive comments in any thread concerning Chinese people, yet never post about America or god forbid, Russia. Is government oppression from predominantly white countries just more palatable to you? Or is being an alt right troll just your dirty little addiction and you don't particularly care where you get that dopamine hit from?

                                Gotta love how your argument style hasn't changed though: baiting, name-dropping and then tangentially related segues when cornered, followed by some "probing questions" bout hastily googled sources as some kind of "gotcha" test to keep people on the back foot. Classic.

                                • [Deactivated] on 06/05/2020 - 17:21
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                                  @[Deactivated]: Why racist? Taiwan rocked every single step of its handling. They starred, yet who wants to prevent their place on the WHO? China. I'll happily crown Taiwan as the superstars of this crisis. Hong Kong handled covid well. What was their secret of success? Not to drink the CCP kool-aid. Have a look at the Spratly Island map and have a look how little geographic claim China has, yet they are using covid global disruption to expand their empire. I suppose supporting Vietnam, Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia and Philippines on the Spratly Islands makes me racist, lol. How is supporting the Chinese silenced and disappereared whistleblower doctors racist? Chinese culture can't handle valid criticism. It's all about saving face, and the facts and timeline are against you. You are concerned with nationalistic pride, not truth or investigation.

                                  Australia is home to Ross River Fever. Where do you think that name came from? Ross River. Spanish Fever wasn't even ostensibly Spanish, yet their name is linked. Why is China so afraid of having its name associated with the crisis it started. SARS was enough of a warning but changed no behaviour. Multiple subsequent deadly viral outbreaks have emerged from Chinese markets. Chinese bat researcher Shi Zhengli blames Chinese cultural eating practices for SARS and Covid. Is she racist, too, or just stating a likely fact.

                                  What's your biggest criticism of China's handling of the massively deadly covid crisis? The 1.5 months it took to notify the WHO might be a start. Silencing the whistleblowing doctors? Where do you attribute fault?

                                  • Charmoffensive on 06/05/2020 - 19:45
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                                    @[Deactivated]:

                                    Chinese culture can't handle valid criticism. It's all about saving face

                                    Lol, oh dear. And you were doing so well up to that point. I guess it was a bit much to expect you to be able to hide your sinophobia completely.

                                    Keep pouring your energy into these long winded rants about the yellow tide with their clearly inferior culture. And don't forget all those alt right talking points. I'm sure you and the rest of the brown coats will be able to hold off the evil Chinese government with your incisive and cutting forum posts! Don't let the ozbargain agents of the Chinese government melt you, crusading snowflake!

                                    • [Deactivated] on 06/05/2020 - 20:35
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                                      @Charmoffensive: Do you agree with the re-education of Uighurs in Xinjiang, or is that on your forbidden topic list? What did you think of the United Nations Human Rights report on China in January? Accurate? How about Human Rights Watch's recent report about Chinese racism against Africans in Guangzhou?

                                      • Charmoffensive on 06/05/2020 - 22:18
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                                        @[Deactivated]: Do you agree that you feel superior to Chinese people?

                                        • [Deactivated] on 06/05/2020 - 23:26
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                                          @Charmoffensive: Let's test it! Plenty of the red Weibo army around. What's the surface area of all unit quaternions combined?

                                          Actually, put away your bogan southern cross communist star tattoo. Unlike your blind, ultra nationalist pride, I respect on merit. The smartest person of Chinese descent in the last decade or so is Terence Tao, Adelaide born and now a professor at UCLA. 1.4 billion Chinese people in China, yet the smartest person of Chinese descent, one of the smartest people in the world, is one who doesn't have to blindly obey the CCP. Show me you even know his work. What was distinctive about his programming 10 years ago?

                                          • Charmoffensive on 07/05/2020 - 00:28
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                                            @[Deactivated]: Dude, I know this might surprise you, but not everyone who thinks you're a racist gronk is a secret CCP agent sent to spy on you and tear down your glorious Anti-China revolution. I think it's kind of cute though how you think labelling anyone who disagrees with you as a CCP stooge automatically invalidates their opinion, like anyone actually buys into your sinophobic paranoia. It's like when a dog farts itself awake and then stares at everyone in the room like they were the ones that woke them up.

                                            I also had a bit of a chuckle at your reference to your entirely personally nominated (and not at all subjective) "smartest Chinese person alive" who is actually an Australian living in America. I guess it answered my question of "Do you agree that you feel superior to Chinese people?" The answer you gave was a very long way of saying "yes". It was also hilariously close to the old "I'm not racist, I have a black friend" retort. Classic closet racism there. Love it!

                                            Also, not everyone has such a hard-on for maths. I can see why you find it difficult to relate to others. I'm guessing there wasn't a unit on interpersonal skills in your computer science degree. But if you want to play the "r/iamverysmart" game: What's the primary distinctive characteristic of gross pleural effusions containing mesothelioma? See? I can spout off esoteric knowledge too! the difference is, my area of expertise is far more relevant to a discussion surrounding epidemiology. I look forward to your response tomorrow after you've had a bit of time to google that one, get frustrated and then completely ignore it in favour of asking me another irrelevant question.

                                            • [Deactivated] on 07/05/2020 - 00:35
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                                              @Charmoffensive: Frustration and pride are your cultural traits/achilles heels, not mine.

                                              PS Blood staining, rofl. Intelligence is compound. You are rote.

                                              • Charmoffensive on 07/05/2020 - 00:56
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                                                @[Deactivated]:

                                                Frustration and pride are your cultural traits/achilles heels, not mine.

                                                No, yours are racism and an unearned sense of cultural superiority, apparently. I'm glad that you feel comfortable to be overtly racist now though. Kinda proves my point.

                                                PS Blood staining, rofl.

                                                Bzzt, incorrect. Pleural fluids aren't blood. You also don't need to stain them to detect the presence of mesothelioma, it's incredibly obvious to someone standing in front of it, without even having to touch it. Finally, staining is not a characteristic, it's a method of sample preparation for cytopathological analysis. Try again, not-so-ubermensch.

                                                • [Deactivated] on 07/05/2020 - 01:11

                                                  @Charmoffensive: Lymphocytes.

                                                  • Charmoffensive on 07/05/2020 - 11:31
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                                                    @[Deactivated]:

                                                    Lymphocytes.

                                                    I'm sorry, try again. Not only was that answer vague to the point of imbecility and thoroughly incorrect, it displayed a fundamental misunderstanding of what the term "diagnostic characteristic" means. The only thing you showed me was an excellent example of the Dunning–Kruger effect.

                                                    I think CharmOffensive just got revealed as being easily replaceable by a drinking bird toy.

                                                    Frustration and pride are your cultural traits/achilles heels, not mine.

                                                    Hmmm… Might need to rethink that one. Love the arrogance of thinking doing a three year computer science degree makes you qualified to replace every pathologist and medical scientist, when you can't even figure out what an "effusion" is. C'mon mate, google harder. It's just "rote" learning, you should be able to figure it out.

                                                    That said, considering China makes up about 38% of our international students at universities across Australia and CS has one of the highest proportion of international students by enrollment, it makes perfect sense why you're so threatened by the Chinese. It's one of the few domains where the language barrier isn't important, so it looks like your only edge over the competition is your winning personality.

                                                    Good luck with that. Might help your employment opportunities if you learn to speak mandarin, mate. You could try to fit in with the overwhelming surplus of Chinese programmers who are willing to work harder than you for less pay.

                                                    • [Deactivated] on 07/05/2020 - 11:54
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                                                      @Charmoffensive: I'll have to channel your 'P simple' mind for a second. Unilateralism is what a giddy, Mayo Clinic denier like yourself would whip themself into a lather over. Maybe not even P simple, as you are P constant, through and through.

                                                      Here's some algebra that even you can understand:

                                                      Mesothelioma Mortality = Mesothelioma Mortality + CharmOffensive

                                                      Solve for CharmOffensive. Lucky you read about it, though. Do you put your entire credibility behind China's Covid-19 death toll of ~4633?

                                                      When you look at world net migration rate, what stands out to you?

                                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_migration_rate

                                                      PS Must be great for all those Chinese programmers you talk about, lol. Sounds exciting! Somebody needs to be programming all those cheap fake chips. Would have been a whole lot smarter to be programming during, umm, dotcom and wireless booms, don't you think? What do you think about the chip dumpster diving practice in China? The sanding, the re-etching? What's your funniest fake Chinese chip story? Which offshoring to China do you think has been most significant? Do tell! Don't be shy. What's your favourite cable only bait advertising anecdote?

                                                      PPS On the topic of Dunning-Kruger, what are your thoughts on correlation equalling causation?

                                                    • [Deactivated] on 07/05/2020 - 21:58
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                                                      @Charmoffensive: For home viewers, the answer is meniscus, but it's too much fun toying with CharmOffensive's fragile ego. Their summary intellectual worth gets a score of 2.5 uneducated guesses, grounds for a HECS refund!

                                                      • Charmoffensive on 08/05/2020 - 01:32
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                                                        @[Deactivated]: Hah, wrong again. Oh dear. Your menisci are pieces of knee cartilage and have nothing to do with your lungs or pleura. I would have at least thought you'd google where in the body your lungs are if you were that uninformed. I love how wrong that was! You know even less about the human body than a high school biology student! That was a genuinely fun answer. I await your next creatively stupid answer with bated breath.

                                                        You sound frustrated. Perhaps getting such a simple "rote learning" question wrong over and over again has injured your pride? Ahh, can't be, we know they aren't your "cultural achilles heels".

                                                        • [Deactivated] on 08/05/2020 - 08:44

                                                          @Charmoffensive: You don't even know what the pleural 'meniscus sign' is. You'd better do more rote study, tourist. Time for you to get googling "meniscus sign pleural effusion". Anyone can now see for themself how little you know just by checking.

                                                          "Chest radiograph (erect) blunting of the cardiophrenic angle. fluid within the horizontal or oblique fissures. eventually, a meniscus will be seen, on frontal films seen laterally and gently sloping medially (note: if a hydropneumothorax is present, no such meniscus"

                                                          Source: Everywhere except CharmOffensive's limited and missing rote knowledge. Only knows of the knee! Oh, it could not possibly apply to liquids, huh? Ignorance. Cannot even properly rote. National disgrace. Hubris is another one of your traits and you have kindly left yours on show for posterity. Anyone can check. You don't even know your own specialist rote subject. No wonder you find maths too difficult to attempt (thank goodness).

                                                          • Charmoffensive on 08/05/2020 - 09:55
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                                                            @[Deactivated]: Haha, brilliant! You're referring to radiography techniques for an effusion containing mesothelioma! I'm sorry, you're way off base, that simply won't show up in radiography. You'll be able to see shadowing, but it won't tell you what is causing it. Not only that, but you don't use x-rays in cytology. I wonder what irrelevant guesses you'll go for next; the beep test?

                                                            I love how hard you're trying to get a triumphant win, but every time you just prove how little you actually know. It is so satisfying to watch you arrogantly flounder, but come back so wrong. Shame you can't do it without having a little narcissistic conniption fit. That's getting a little boring to be honest.

                                                            • [Deactivated] on 08/05/2020 - 10:30

                                                              @Charmoffensive: CharmOffensive: "nothing to do with your lungs or pleura."

                                                              Look at you change! What happened to your kneejerk theory? You don't even know your chosen specialist rote subject and have to backflip and bluff. Anyone can check just by googling. Haha, you had to and then 100% backflipped and scramble right now. The meniscus is the underlying liquid dome shape, regardless of imaging technique. You don't even know that. Read your own knock-knee effort prior.

                                                              CharmOffensive: "I would have at least thought you'd google where in the body your lungs are."

                                                              You didn't even know your topic. Fact.

                                                              • Charmoffensive on 08/05/2020 - 10:58
                                                                +2

                                                                @[Deactivated]: Considering your last baseless guesses were "blood smear" and "lymphocytes" I figured your best guess for "meniscus" was knee cartilage, which of course has nothing to do with the pleura. But I think you knew that's exactly what I was referring to with that sentence and you're only hope of salvaging what little dignity you have left was to take it out of context. Not only that, but you had to turn to radiology to try and answer a cytology question, which is equally wrong. You can't diagnose mesothelioma from an x ray alone. Good job. Looks like you're not having a lot of fun being a "tourist" as you call it to the field of medical science.

                                                                Ok, I'm officially bored with your little temper tantrums and I think I've quite clearly let you prove the two things I came here for: You're an arrogant ignoramus and you are pretty racist against the Chinese. For those playing at home, the answer is: The viscosity and colour of Honey. Simple, right? So sorry that one trumped you for so long. Take the loss well my friend and hopefully learn something about arrogance, "pride" or "hubris" or whichever synonym you want to employ and combine it with a rare commodity in your life: self reflection.

                                                                Peace.

                                                                • [Deactivated] on 08/05/2020 - 10:59

                                                                  @Charmoffensive: CharmOffensive: "I figured"

                                                                  Can't admit you were wrong and have to run. Another characteristic trait. Must save face. Must save face.

                                                                  CharmOffensive: "I figured your best guess for "meniscus" was knee cartilage, which of course has nothing to do with the pleura."

                                                                  vis a vis after scrambled google assist:

                                                                  CharmOffensive: "You're referring to radiography techniques for an effusion containing mesothelioma!"

                                                                  You think? I love the grovelling waffle words. Happy running. At least you learned something new.

                              • gmail92 on 07/05/2020 - 01:13
                                +2

                                @[Deactivated]: Hold up, let the OP pull out their magical all-knowing crystal ball to answer all of your deepest desires.

                                • [Deactivated] on 07/05/2020 - 01:23
                                  -1

                                  @gmail92: At least you are getting the hang of an AMA. I think CharmOffensive just got revealed as being easily replaceable by a drinking bird toy.

                                  What did you think about China banning the Winnie the Pooh film because of comparisons to Xi Jinping?

                                  • gmail92 on 07/05/2020 - 01:49
                                    +1

                                    @[Deactivated]: Yes.

                                    • [Deactivated] on 07/05/2020 - 02:22

                                      @gmail92: Interesting.

                                      What do you think is the solution to the left-behind generation?

              • Islund on 07/05/2020 - 14:35

                @[Deactivated]: could all the negs show the whitewashing is working?

                • [Deactivated] on 07/05/2020 - 15:28
                  +2

                  @Islund: You have to seasonally adjust for someone's comment defending China under-reporting their death toll by an order of magnitude getting +6. ;)

                  Under authoritarian regimes, truth isn't about facts, it's what is expeditious and least disruptive.

  • DiLs on 03/05/2020 - 15:29
    +2

    Do they eat live animals in China?

    • down-under on 03/05/2020 - 15:35
      +13

      As a whole it's the same as Australia or the US.

      Or it depends on what you mean by "eat live animals"… If it's live in the market? Yes, especially fish and chicken (less common than fish). If you mean live when going into the mouth, hell no… But that said, I can never say 0, crazy people exists in every country.

      • DiLs on 03/05/2020 - 15:40
        +4

        I mean live when put in mouth as seen some videos.

        • down-under on 03/05/2020 - 16:06
          +12

          At least I do not know anybody who has eaten anything alive… But if you say videos, there are a few short video sharing / social media platforms in China, and people are crazy in creating viral videos. I think I've heard something about one of the platforms "Kuaishou" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuaishou), that people create videos like eating live things or hurt themselves etc, pretty sad.

    • [Deactivated] on 03/05/2020 - 15:52
      +3

      There is this korean woman on youtube who eats live animals live.In fact, some of her videos are so disturbing that she was compelled to delete them. She does it for the shock factor though.

      While in HongKong, on a business lunch we were offered a deep-fried fish that was still alive and wriggling on the plate. It was horrifying and we just left.

      • Ughhh on 03/05/2020 - 16:04
        +1

        This is deff one type of fetish I will never be able to understand.

        • [Deactivated] on 03/05/2020 - 16:09
          +1

          There's fresh and then there's fresh…🤢 I've been told that in one of the videos, the woman tries to eat a live baby octopus and he attacks her and rip some skin off her nose. If that's true, she bloody well deserved it.

          • DiLs on 03/05/2020 - 16:13

            @[Deactivated]: I saw that video hahaha

          • down-under on 03/05/2020 - 16:19
            +4

            @[Deactivated]: Yeah… I think for seafood people are more creative, Japanese has been the most adventurous but Chinese is catching up. For octopus, Japan has a dish which is fresh live octopus with head cut, and customer can pour soy sauce onto the flesh to make it move… and now it sounds like Chinese got to another level.

          • afoveht on 03/05/2020 - 18:34
            +3

            @[Deactivated]: Yeah, it's so much more humane boiling marine animals alive or freezing them to death.

          • khomeini on 06/05/2020 - 11:37

            @[Deactivated]: There's a great Korean movie called "Old boy" where the main character eats a live octopus and you can see it writhing around his face whilst he's literally ripping into it with his teeth.

            The movie itself is great.

      • down-under on 03/05/2020 - 16:09
        +1

        Oh, that deep-fried-but-live fish is true, not common but some restaurants do offer that.

      • CarbonMini on 04/05/2020 - 10:48

        In Korea, we eat (dead) octopus legs that still move and wriggle around. Google 'sanakji', I personally can't eat that without the soju.
        Oh and that Korean youtuber you linked seems to eat the fish after killing it… I thought she ate the poor thing alive…

        • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 10:54

          This is her eating an octopus and it attacks her

          • CarbonMini on 04/05/2020 - 11:39

            @[Deactivated]: Oh, I was referring to the Korean lady. The one you linked me to showed me a Chinese lady haha.
            Yes, I know that differentiating between Chinese, Korean and Japanese is very difficult for non asians. I personally had so much trouble differentiating between European languages before coming here haha.

            • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 11:49

              @CarbonMini: She's described as Korean in some videos and as Chinese in others. Maybe she has copycats.

              • CarbonMini on 04/05/2020 - 11:52

                @[Deactivated]: I would assume shes Chinese because she speaks Chinese, and she doesnt look the same as the lady in the youtube channel you posted above.

                • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 11:55

                  @CarbonMini: Must be a copycat. I couldn't bring myself to watch any of the videos but have read about them. Here's Ssoyung , the Korean lady, with live octopuses.

                  • CarbonMini on 04/05/2020 - 12:03

                    @[Deactivated]: Wow, okay just saw the article, had no idea that sanakji can be consumed alive? I personally always ate them after they were killed, and this is the first time I've seen it being eaten that way haha. Not really suprised though, would assume China, Korea and Japan do stuff like this. Probably the differing culture and perspective upon animal consumption.

                    • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 12:14

                      @CarbonMini: Japan has ikizukuri. Not sure if other cultures eat live animals. But the worst thing I've ever heard someone describe eating to me was human flesh. She said it tastes sweet.

      • testert on 05/05/2020 - 10:26
        +2

        Look into the value of animal life is very related to culture. In language, the Latin root anim means “mind” or “spirit.”, therefore, an animal is a living, moving creature and so contains a “spirit” and “mind.” in English or Indo-European languages. However, in east asian, China, Japanese, maybe Korea, animal in word is 動"moving" + 物"object". The ethical/religion reason around animal cruelty just never appeares in the area. Under the culture respect animal life, anyone apply animal cruelty means he/she is a sociopath since he/she fully aware the culture meaning/responseability behind the subject. He/she choose to apply it, means fetish. However, for a culture does not require respect animal life, he/she cooked a live deep-fried fish, did not mean he/she enjoy to torture the animal, more likely it just a task to be done in the way the society recognizes.

  • Melb69 on 03/05/2020 - 15:32

    How did you end up in the US and WDC to start with was it through a job transfer for Aus. My Son is completing MU Computer Science this uear and currently applying for jobs. Is there a way into the US tech scene for him. The Microsoft and Google positions are very difficult to get into, but what about the 2nd tier companies. He's currenlty looking at some Aus Banks and Software delivery comnpanues in the same finance field. He's open to suggestions.

    • down-under on 03/05/2020 - 15:58
      +1

      I applied for the US position directly.

      Is MU Monash University? Regarding difficulties, I don't think there's a big difference between 1st and 2nd tier companies, but they do look at different qualities of a person.

      For 1st tier companies, for interview opportunities, internal referral makes a huge difference (or find someone to send his resume directly to the hiring manager, depends on which company it is). And for passing the interviews, spend some time practicing the interview questions (on some websites like leetcode.com) and he will be fine, zero EQ is needed LOL.

      And if planning to apply for US positions directly, 1st tier companies may be easier, mainly because 2nd tier companies have relatively lower interests in hiring people from overseas (but it's pretty common for US companies to hire oversea workers in general)

      Australian Citizens do not need to compete with other countries for the limited number of H1B US working visa (but lots of companies do not know about that and as soon as they know you're not in the US they will pass as they believe you need a H1B visa, if you have a chance, you can explain that Australians can use E3 visa to work in the US)

      • Melb69 on 03/05/2020 - 16:24
        -2

        Melbourne University. My snobby son would be rolling his eye's if he hear Monash. Thanks for reply.

        • down-under on 03/05/2020 - 16:29
          +3

          Hahaha, from its official name "University of Melbourne" I thought it's UM :S

          • Melb69 on 03/05/2020 - 16:35

            @down-under: Probably. I thought I taught my son not to be snobby, that was till he got into that uni. Funny thing was he would always wear his free Monash Tshirt from their open day at his Uni.

            • down-under on 03/05/2020 - 16:42

              @Melb69: Many cities have similar local rivalries, it's fun :)

      • LightningMcQueen on 03/05/2020 - 22:13

        1) On E3, once an employment finishes, you have just 10 days to stay in US and
        find other job. What's your plan for that? In US companies operate at 'At will'
        clause for termination, I heard most companies give at least 2 weeks notice. If the
        company asks an employee not to come to work tomorrow, finding a job is one thing and getting
        US consulate interview appointment within 10 days may not be possible. When I was on E3 in US,
        I was thinking about this all the time.
        2) What was your motivation to move to US?

        • down-under on 04/05/2020 - 05:19

          1) You really know everything :), my current job is relatively safe so I'm not too worried about that.
          2) US is the centre of IT universe, so I think people in this industry should come and have a look at some stage of their life. Like it or not is another question.

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